Bushidobillyclub,

Concerning your statement that you call "the moral to the story:



This "moral to the story" is not specific to any lady who claims to talk to trees. It does not mention any lady talking to trees. You cannot claim that it was misunderstood because it was taken out of context.

It does not matter if it was a response to that subject.

It is a complete statement in and of itself that proclaims to be a "moral" to some unspecified story, which is not specific to any particular subject. "A moral to a story" is supposed to be "taken out of context" and applied to other situations. That is why it is called "the moral to the story."

I know it is not always possible, but when you make a statement that is complete and particularly if it is a "moral to some story," then the statement naturally stands on its own and can and should be interpretated "out of any context."

I correctly interpreted this statement. It is a general blanket statement to be applied to other situations besides "a woman who talks to trees" especially because you made it into a "moral to the story."

"Do not make claims you can't back up."

"Keep your delusions to yourself if you do not want a critical thinker to try to discover the veracity of the claim."

This is the message you preach, and it has little to do with "the story." (Any story could have contained this very same "moral.")

If you want to tie it to the lady that talks to trees you should make your statement more specific.

"Do not make claims that you can talk to trees if you can't back them up."

"Keep your delusions of talking to trees to yourself if you do not want a critical thinker to try to discover the veracity of the claim."

That is a specific and complete statement.


jb

It does stand on its own.

The story was about the lady who speaks to trees . . .

Are you seriously trying to tell me what I meant?

I admitted I should have been more specific already , trust me, I have learned my lesson. I know that being specific with you is a must at all times in every situation.

Ill do like Mirror and shower you will happy emotes regardless of context that way you can smile and not be so hostile.

Ah, and this is because everyone else is too caught up in specifics to see the big picture...

She is still pissed at me Billy...

Her post was full of her versions of my words...

I am feeling a little cynical, so I had better leave this one be for now...





Boo hoo...

I am not trying to tell you what you meant. I am telling you what the statement meant.



I just would hope that people would learn to write better and realize that a complete statement like the one in this case, being properly constructed stands on its own and need not be dependent on context for meaning.

(Its just basic literature.)

Personally, I would prefer putting attention on the specifics to achieve a good understanding of a little picture, than to skip the specifics and achieve no understanding of a big picture.

I don't think you get my point or else you are just being flip. It does not matter what the story was about. The statement does stand on its own. It is the foundation of your platform.



This is the statement where you tell people to "put up or shut up" in your own special way.

And you refuse to take responsibility for this statement by making the excuse that I "took it out of context" of the story of the lady who talked to trees.



Why don't you just admit that this is your bottom line statement and basic general attitude and stop trying to claim it only applied to the lady who talks to trees?

Oh thats right you did! You agreed that the statement stands on its own!

It certainly does.

I hope you understand what I am trying to get across to you. Can you give me a sign? Do you understand or am just blowing in the wind?

Your getting across to me that you are bitter and trying to pick a fight.


If someone tells me they meant blah blah blah when they say bleh bleh bleh, I just say ok, ok, ok.

You are being a ***** about this . . . I get that.

And your WRONG, I know what I meant, I know who I was responding to, I was too lazy to use quotes, and you are going to make me pay for it, because you are bitter and being mean spirited.

I am officially done responding to you about all topics here in this forum. I hope that makes you happy, because I think that was what you where gunning for in the first place with this continuance.

You are wrong about me. I am not bitter and a I am not trying to pick a fight. This is a debate. not a "fight."

So you are backing out?

I see your statement for what it is as it is written. Its no big deal. It is the English language. Very simple.

And it expresses your basic platform. ( Why can't you admit that?)

You want people who make claims to back them up with scientific facts. Don't you?

You think people who believe things that can't be proven or have faith in spiritual things (including a woman who talks to trees) are "delusional." If this is not true over all, then just say so.

I am just saying that is how you project your position in all of your arguments. That is the flavor of your arguments. There is nothing "wrong" with that. That is just how you argue. Am I wrong about this?





Mean spirited? Where did you get that impression? My truth may be brutal, but I am not mean spirited.




No it wasn't.

Having you walk out and slam the door is not what I am trying to accomplish. That's childish. Why can't you address my point?

Getting to the truth is what I am trying to do.

Not going to respond to me in this forum any more?

What ever Billy.

Then you can join the Creative club and tuck your tail between your legs and stop responding to me. That's just what he did. Its just a way of backing out of the debate, because you can't win it, don't get it, and can't handle the truth.

You call me a **** (whatever that is) because you can't win the debate? Is this how you would conduct a professional debate?

Billy,

The least you could do is quote me and tell me where and how you believe I have been "mean spirited." Did I say something that looked like I was trying to hurt your feelings?

If I have, I will certainly acknowledge it and apologize.

I'm still waiting for you to quote me where I was mean spirited with you.

This whole thing started when you asked me to quote you in the first place in order to explain my why impression was that I was being disrespected.

I told you that I was sorry because I had aligned you with Creative and I told you why I had done that.

Then I did quote a statement you had made that I took as your basic attitude. You denied that it had anything to do with anything except being about a lady who claimed to be able to talk to trees.

I don't see where I have been mean spirited at all. Please explain it to me.

I think a huge cucumber with blue hair gave birth to reality, and of course it was in another dimension. It also made the universe seem to be different in an effort to disguise it's true identity of the creator. We humans can never know the reality because Uncle Cuke hid the knowledge far too well.

I have a saying I go by, keep your reality to yourself, my fiction is just fine thank you. LOL Or was it, keep your religion to yourself because it might get something on my reality and than I'll have to kick your butt, LOL hahahaha, just kidding, I need to go to bed now, bye

I think the Flying Spaghetti Monster is much more logical. I mean, we have many many pictures and written accounts of manifenstations of his Noodlyness. Those of us who have been filled with his Holy Sauce can testify that with him "nothing is in pasta bowl".

I would say I met a blue cucumber once, but that would just be nuts.

If you read "Elegant Universe" it says there may be 11 balled up multi-verses. That's 11 different Universes.

Do you consider a different Universe a different reality?

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Hmmmm, good quetion chris, I would say reality isn't for everyone, its all in how each person views it differantly. One persons reality will be another persons hell or treasure. I for one, prefer reality as a mixed media in my mind, never giving and never surrendering its deepest secrets to me in totality. Some people say, reality is as reality does, but in truth, how do we know our milk really isn't blue when looked at the right way, and really, what is, the right way to anything, and if good be good, than why are we so darn inclined to be bad all the time? I think we can make all the exuses in the world to why the world as we know it is the way it is, or we can simply percieve it in the only way we know how, or the way we have grown into understanding it. And in truth, there are more realities to two people in one room then a team of psychologists and scientists can gather in a single lifetime. So in short, reality is what you make it. smiles

I see you're from Roswell New Mexico there lilwick86. Lots of different realities down there.

A man on a chalk board only knows his two dimensional reality but is it really reality since we 3 dimensional creatures know there is more?

Is our reality real when it's possible there are beings that may see things we don't because they live in four dimensions (or 5 dimensions if you consider time to be a dimension thus we live in 4 ourselves).

Many insects and animals live in a different reality due to their small size and limited senses.

Reality is what's real to us but our reality may be not real to others.