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Topic: my reason for abondoning god
alchmey2009's photo
Mon 06/29/09 11:28 PM
to be honest there are
3 good reasons that i went form pentecostal to agnostic.
1 i refuse to accept teh one world voice/one world choice of teh end times
2 i will never respect anyone who thinks george w bush was a decent president and tells me he did gods work.
3 churchs feed you there own man made dogma of endless crap and doctrine, in other words their way of tricking you outta every dime you get for some quick to dispose of ministy purpose.

Italy0219's photo
Mon 06/29/09 11:34 PM

to be honest there are
3 good reasons that i went form pentecostal to agnostic.
1 i refuse to accept teh one world voice/one world choice of teh end times
2 i will never respect anyone who thinks george w bush was a decent president and tells me he did gods work.
3 churchs feed you there own man made dogma of endless crap and doctrine, in other words their way of tricking you outta every dime you get for some quick to dispose of ministy purpose.


God is there, he just isn't what man can put into words, even though they all try, don't give up on God, give up on man.

Jamesdei07's photo
Mon 06/29/09 11:37 PM


to be honest there are
3 good reasons that i went form pentecostal to agnostic.
1 i refuse to accept teh one world voice/one world choice of teh end times
2 i will never respect anyone who thinks george w bush was a decent president and tells me he did gods work.
3 churchs feed you there own man made dogma of endless crap and doctrine, in other words their way of tricking you outta every dime you get for some quick to dispose of ministy purpose.


God is there, he just isn't what man can put into words, even though they all try, don't give up on God, give up on man.


and that's what they call faith look it up the term has been around for centuries to put ones self whole heartedly without physical evidence that so exist

Italy0219's photo
Mon 06/29/09 11:43 PM



to be honest there are
3 good reasons that i went form pentecostal to agnostic.
1 i refuse to accept teh one world voice/one world choice of teh end times
2 i will never respect anyone who thinks george w bush was a decent president and tells me he did gods work.
3 churchs feed you there own man made dogma of endless crap and doctrine, in other words their way of tricking you outta every dime you get for some quick to dispose of ministy purpose.


God is there, he just isn't what man can put into words, even though they all try, don't give up on God, give up on man.


and that's what they call faith look it up the term has been around for centuries to put ones self whole heartedly without physical evidence that so exist



I can't believe I described it that well, I don't know where it came from. I don't even go to church, but I guess God wanted me to say that..flowers

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 06/30/09 01:17 AM

to be honest there are
3 good reasons that i went form pentecostal to agnostic.
1 i refuse to accept teh one world voice/one world choice of teh end times
2 i will never respect anyone who thinks george w bush was a decent president and tells me he did gods work.
3 churchs feed you there own man made dogma of endless crap and doctrine, in other words their way of tricking you outta every dime you get for some quick to dispose of ministy purpose.


:thumbsup: I don't believe in the endtimes,George Bush or the money making scams either:thumbsup:

moonlight_ride62's photo
Tue 06/30/09 06:42 AM
I do believe in God as well...I am sorry you got hurt or angered...I have been both as well...but God is not to blame...

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Tue 06/30/09 11:24 AM

to be honest there are
3 good reasons that i went form pentecostal to agnostic.
1 i refuse to accept teh one world voice/one world choice of teh end times
2 i will never respect anyone who thinks george w bush was a decent president and tells me he did gods work.
3 churchs feed you there own man made dogma of endless crap and doctrine, in other words their way of tricking you outta every dime you get for some quick to dispose of ministy purpose.


Those reasons have to do with man, not God! Religion is a man-made idea, carried out by humans and all their flaws. Spirituality is your belief in something larger than yourself, and really has nothing to do with organized religion.

It sounds as if you are angry at religion but are confusing the two concepts. flowerforyou

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 06/30/09 11:54 AM
:smile: endtimes bible prophecy is a scam:smile:

Dan99's photo
Tue 06/30/09 01:07 PM
Edited by Dan99 on Tue 06/30/09 01:08 PM
Religion does not make any sense, only the illogical, the stupid and the brainwashed can accept it.

Accepting God without religion, would be a lot more plausible. Yet there is still no proof of him.

no photo
Tue 06/30/09 01:13 PM

Religion does not make any sense, only the illogical, the stupid and the brainwashed can accept it.

Accepting God without religion, would be a lot more plausible. Yet there is still no proof of him.


One doesn't need proof to have faith in something greater than yourself, whether that thing is God, the Goddess, Mother Nature, science, randomness, whatever. Faith is a choice, it either is or it isn't. Either way, if it works for you, then who's to say who's wrong? We'll all find out when we're dead.

I do agree, though, that religion, in and of itself, makes no sense. I guess some people need the structure of having someone tell them what to think and believe, I don't know. Most people give no thought whatsoever to why they believe what they believe, they believe what they are taught and look no further. More power to them, but I believe they are missing out on a lot.

Dan99's photo
Tue 06/30/09 01:17 PM
Something greater than myself?!


pfft!

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 06/30/09 01:19 PM
drinker George Bush deserves to go to helldrinker

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Tue 06/30/09 01:24 PM

Something greater than myself?!


pfft!


I know, I know, it's hard to fathom laugh laugh laugh

ThomasJB's photo
Tue 06/30/09 02:09 PM
To believe in a deity of traditional sense requires that one believe in a creator and that said creator had it in it's power to do away with evil and pain and suffering (or to have never created it), but chooses to not do so.

To believe in anything other takes you away from the traditional definition of a deity. One in which it doesn't care for the fate of it's creation and/or either is not able to control it's creation or was not involved in the evolution of the universe. In which case your belief in said deity has no bearing on this or any following life nor does it make any difference to said deity.

earthytaurus76's photo
Tue 06/30/09 02:13 PM
Edited by earthytaurus76 on Tue 06/30/09 02:14 PM
If I had to go to a pentacostal church, id consider abandoning God too. laugh

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O sorry, I was moved. rofl
Just had to speak in tongues.

Must have been the spirit of God provoking me to cause a distraction, and disturbance, and call attention to myself rather than people learning about God.


So Godly.

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 06/30/09 02:15 PM

If I had to go to a pentacostal church, id consider abandoning God too. laugh

lalallagaggajhdiwdiujdnjdjnd


O sorry, I was moved. rofl
Just had to speak in tongues.

Must have been the spirit of God provoking me to cause a distraction, and disturbance, and call attention to myself rather than people learning about God.


So Godly.



rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 06/30/09 02:17 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Tue 06/30/09 02:18 PM

To believe in a deity of traditional sense requires that one believe in a creator and that said creator had it in it's power to do away with evil and pain and suffering (or to have never created it), but chooses to not do so.

To believe in anything other takes you away from the traditional definition of a deity. One in which it doesn't care for the fate of it's creation and/or either is not able to control it's creation or was not involved in the evolution of the universe. In which case your belief in said deity has no bearing on this or any following life nor does it make any difference to said deity.
:smile: He isn't able to do anything (much)about what we choose to do in this world:smile:

ThomasJB's photo
Tue 06/30/09 02:59 PM


To believe in a deity of traditional sense requires that one believe in a creator and that said creator had it in it's power to do away with evil and pain and suffering (or to have never created it), but chooses to not do so.

To believe in anything other takes you away from the traditional definition of a deity. One in which it doesn't care for the fate of it's creation and/or either is not able to control it's creation or was not involved in the evolution of the universe. In which case your belief in said deity has no bearing on this or any following life nor does it make any difference to said deity.
:smile: He isn't able to do anything (much)about what we choose to do in this world:smile:


well if it was all powerful what's to stop it form doing whatever the hell it wants?

trubeliever's photo
Tue 06/30/09 03:39 PM
God wont stop you doing whatever u want to do that is free will. You can call me diluted if you want but I do believe in Him and I dont like it one bit being told what to do, thats the thing now I want to do the things of God.
I'm sorry you have had a bad experience with church and people in the churches. And there are some out there who are in it for all the wrong reasons and shame on them. But the thing is one day they will have to answer for what they have done and so will we. I do hope you change your mind and dont give up on Him, He wont give up on You.

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 06/30/09 04:00 PM



To believe in a deity of traditional sense requires that one believe in a creator and that said creator had it in it's power to do away with evil and pain and suffering (or to have never created it), but chooses to not do so.

To believe in anything other takes you away from the traditional definition of a deity. One in which it doesn't care for the fate of it's creation and/or either is not able to control it's creation or was not involved in the evolution of the universe. In which case your belief in said deity has no bearing on this or any following life nor does it make any difference to said deity.
:smile: He isn't able to do anything (much)about what we choose to do in this world:smile:


well if it was all powerful what's to stop it form doing whatever the hell it wants?



:smile: Because it is not "all powerful" anymore:smile:

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