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Topic: Public Option DOA ???
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Sun 08/16/09 10:07 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090816/pl_politico/26158

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Sun 08/16/09 10:12 PM
I wish that they would have tried to make it better instead of dropping it.

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Mon 08/17/09 04:03 AM
Disagree, now maybe we can get some real agreement on reform. The public option has bogged down the whole debate.


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Mon 08/17/09 04:23 AM
Yea REFORM!!!! Cutting medicare!!!!! WATCH THE INSURANCE RATES SKYROCKET EVEN FASTER!!!!!!!!

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Mon 08/17/09 04:26 AM

Yea REFORM!!!! Cutting medicare!!!!! WATCH THE INSURANCE RATES SKYROCKET EVEN FASTER!!!!!!!!
The majority of employer based health insurance requires you go on medicare when you become social security age. Your insurance will become the secondary payer and medicare will become the main primary payer. Been that way for many years. So cutting medicare will ONLY drive the cost up on YOUR insurance premiums even faster than they have been!!! :angry:

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Mon 08/17/09 05:59 AM
I like the idea of fixing what we have

not creating a whole new system

Obama had some good ideas but once congress gets a hold of it they will turn into a pile of earmarks for special interests and screw it all up

lets just concentrate on whats wrong with the system we got

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Mon 08/17/09 06:27 AM
Health care costs what it costs. Everybody is just fighting over who is going to pay for it.........smokin

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Mon 08/17/09 06:29 AM
Edited by Unknow on Mon 08/17/09 06:30 AM
Quiet

Yes if they do it and just dont talk about it!!!! All I have heard is cutting medicare and well I showed you what would happen!!!

The thing that PISS's me off most about this administration is where is the talk about a SOUND energy plan. With the prices of gas during the GWB administration that too should be top priority along with healthcare!!! GAS will go back up and drain the economy again!!!!!

T Boone Pickens?????

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Mon 08/17/09 06:37 AM
T Boone Pickens is kinda handing off his project to other people. Commercial interests and venture capitalists. He is 82 and just cant really keep up with it anymore

and like he says "I'm 82. Its not my problem. I'll be dead soon. It's YOUR problem and you have to take it on. Or not. Its up to you"

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Mon 08/17/09 06:39 AM
Edited by Unknow on Mon 08/17/09 06:42 AM

T Boone Pickens is kinda handing off his project to other people. Commercial interests and venture capitalists. He is 82 and just cant really keep up with it anymore

and like he says "I'm 82. Its not my problem. I'll be dead soon. It's YOUR problem and you have to take it on. Or not. Its up to you"
I just liked what he had to say....His ideas!!!!! Atleast he was talking about it!!!!

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Mon 08/17/09 07:08 AM
I thought Sarah Palin was the quitter...:smile:

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Mon 08/17/09 07:12 AM

I thought Sarah Palin was the quitter...:smile:
I love it!!!!! You Bit... about him not listening to the people and trash him when he does!!!!! LOVE THOSE CONSERATIVE VALUES!!!!!!!

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Mon 08/17/09 08:15 AM
Edited by boo2u on Mon 08/17/09 08:15 AM

I wish that they would have tried to make it better instead of dropping it.


Hey Winx waving How does one make it better with the Tsunami of anxiety and fear against it. We don't even clearly know how many people are for or against it. Unless you believe polls, I don't. Even if polls proved that Obama's plan was winning I wouldn't accept that as anything but politics.

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Mon 08/17/09 08:16 AM
Edited by Giocamo on Mon 08/17/09 08:17 AM
It's called convictions...principles...if the healthcare system is in crisis as Obama says...then you fight for what you believe in to the very end...I mean...don't blame we Republicans...we don't have the votes to stop anything...his own party sunk his butt !...

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Mon 08/17/09 08:20 AM
I don't trust any Politicians word.
Let's see it in writing.

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Mon 08/17/09 08:29 AM

It's called convictions...principles...if the healthcare system is in crisis as Obama says...then you fight for what you believe in to the very end...I mean...don't blame we Republicans...we don't have the votes to stop anything...his own party sunk his butt !...
How well did those convictions and principles work for you the last 8 years!!!! YOU GOT DUPED!!!!! I mean really where did they come into play? Atleast I question both the left and the right and not just spew partism BS!!!!!

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Mon 08/17/09 10:26 AM

It's called convictions...principles...if the healthcare system is in crisis as Obama says...then you fight for what you believe in to the very end...I mean...don't blame we Republicans...we don't have the votes to stop anything...his own party sunk his butt !...


Excuse me but republicans don't need votes to stop anything, they only need misinformation and fear tactics and deception, something the republican are very good at and the Blue dogs have employed on the democratic side. They manage to get their so called death panel provision off the table, and it's clear their tactics are working on the public plan, just as they hoped it would, and they got the public, whether informed or uninformed to play into their tactics and to spread the misinformation.

But whats even more interesting is that even after debunking from every avenue they still have the balls to speak the same misinformation when questioned by reporters and even after it's been taken off the table.

They know fear works, just ask any preacher how he gets people to believe his rhetoric.

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Mon 08/17/09 12:06 PM


It's called convictions...principles...if the healthcare system is in crisis as Obama says...then you fight for what you believe in to the very end...I mean...don't blame we Republicans...we don't have the votes to stop anything...his own party sunk his butt !...


Excuse me but republicans don't need votes to stop anything, they only need misinformation and fear tactics and deception, something the republican are very good at and the Blue dogs have employed on the democratic side. They manage to get their so called death panel provision off the table, and it's clear their tactics are working on the public plan, just as they hoped it would, and they got the public, whether informed or uninformed to play into their tactics and to spread the misinformation.

But whats even more interesting is that even after debunking from every avenue they still have the balls to speak the same misinformation when questioned by reporters and even after it's been taken off the table.

They know fear works, just ask any preacher how he gets people to believe his rhetoric.


any Preacher...like the Rev Wright ?...happy

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Mon 08/17/09 12:40 PM
Edited by Winx on Mon 08/17/09 12:42 PM


I wish that they would have tried to make it better instead of dropping it.


Hey Winx waving How does one make it better with the Tsunami of anxiety and fear against it. We don't even clearly know how many people are for or against it. Unless you believe polls, I don't. Even if polls proved that Obama's plan was winning I wouldn't accept that as anything but politics.


I don't know how one can make it better when others spread lies and put spins of false rumors on situations.ohwell

I used to think that people wanted things to get better but I'm seeing that some don't. Why else would they be spreading lies and false rumors and creating fear with those?








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Mon 08/17/09 02:57 PM



It's called convictions...principles...if the healthcare system is in crisis as Obama says...then you fight for what you believe in to the very end...I mean...don't blame we Republicans...we don't have the votes to stop anything...his own party sunk his butt !...


Excuse me but republicans don't need votes to stop anything, they only need misinformation and fear tactics and deception, something the republican are very good at and the Blue dogs have employed on the democratic side. They manage to get their so called death panel provision off the table, and it's clear their tactics are working on the public plan, just as they hoped it would, and they got the public, whether informed or uninformed to play into their tactics and to spread the misinformation.

But whats even more interesting is that even after debunking from every avenue they still have the balls to speak the same misinformation when questioned by reporters and even after it's been taken off the table.

They know fear works, just ask any preacher how he gets people to believe his rhetoric.


any Preacher...like the Rev Wright ?...happy


There have been thousands of lilly white preachers scaming the public for hundreds of years. Wright wouldn't be any different in that sense. Just let's stop pretending that the right or the left for that matter needs votes if they can shut something down with the age old trick of FEAR. Gullible people are easy to govern.

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