Ladies and gentlemen, if such things truly exist, the jury is out, the decision made. We the people, after much discussion and reflection of honest debate have come to believe that the gentlemen is dead. I guess he was kind of like Santa clause. If enough people believed in him the gentlemen and the nice guy thrived and grew. But in today's world, sadly, not enough people believe that he exists and many don't really like having him around at all. Ladies can open their own doors and buy their own dinners, and generally have no need of a what used to be considered a good man. and so the legend dies.
I cry for this because I see that with the passing of this icon, our already eroding culture dissolves just a little more. My father taught me how to treat a lady, but now I look around me and I see that all my fathers teachings have turned to dust. The cynical nature of the populous in general today just dosent leave room for the old ways of love, passion, kindness and compassion. Today we are crude, vile, and just plane nasty.
In all this ranting I would like to ask all of you one simple question.... If the gentlemen is dead where does that leave the ladies, or are they too gone. And if so where does the blame lie. Did the loss of the gentlemen preclude the loss of the lady or vice versa?

While at work one day & watched this older couple with amazement. He treated his lady with the utmost respect. Taking her coat off, pulling out her chair, after dinner helping her with her coat again. I just looked on wishing there were more men like that. When they left he held the door open & opened the door on her side of the car. Now, that was a perfect gentelman!!! But, I've never claimed to be a lady!!

The man was a dying breed, and I can understand that. We are called liars, womanizers, and fakes. And now I see that my true topic should have been the loss of the lady.

Truthfully most of us aren't used to men opening the doors, removing our coats, etc. It's something I rarely see or have experienced in a long time. I'm sure there are plenty of ladies & gentlemen out there but I feel it's a dying breed in both sexes. I usually see this in the older generation. Rarely do I see this type of respect in the younger generation.

good point..thats why I changed my heading..just in a more modern way..change with the times...

I want to go back to the old way...The way I recall...the man goes to work, woman stays home...usually barefoot and pregnant...those days are gone..but...you help me with my coat, I'll help you with yours, hold my hand, I will hold yours, actually quite simple way to live...in harmony....thats also lost in society today......

Very good post.... I have to agree a change in the times has changed the definition of courtesy. In todays world it is often hard for people to see the little things that matter so much. We are constantly bombarded by selfishness in life today, and as they say... what comes into our minds comes out in our actions... Thank you for being one of those special ladies who understand that times have changed and yet sees how the lady and gentlemen of old can be reborn into perhaps something better

Personal INTIGRITY, is what makes a gentlsman.

Not what he does.

come on...lets run away and change the world.....

it so simple it sickening.I'm no perfect angel...but I have been told my views do work...and I see it works in many ppls lives,I just can't find one who can handle such.

I've always wanted the typical,wonderful husband, cute little house, picket fence ,beautiful kids and have to have the dog....I had it for a little while...but the ex...he just had this need to keep up with the jones's,to this day,he is the same,and more so,

I choose to just be me.Even on a bad day.And I even open doors for men...You get one heck of a smile and a thank you...simple again...

I believe until ppl have a life changing event happen....then they begin to except exceptance...(most days) ...you see what really is important.

I'm getting lossed here in thought...some it up this way.when the modern technogy gets shoved up our azz's and we can finally go outside and play hide and seek and catch lightening bugs,just maybe, we'd be a little happier...

The distance of real human union is getting lost ..and here we sit with our PC'S in our laps.....yikes...

I have to get to work...

Have a great day....

Hi Sage...How are you? I'm working my way to e-mailing you...I have been playing in the play ground...I'm in a calm place at the moment...So not to many e's going out.I think about u always and your family and your kindness that I have received from you.You are a man gift....good soul...xoxoxoxo

Zanne, glad I have you fooled.
I am simply me, have my traits, good & bad.
Hope your boys are doing well, mine is home for a bit & then will be back out making a hole in the water.

We'll talk ..glad he's home...Brett on his way again in July.....

I'm way passed my hr..

have a great day..xoxo

I like you sage, very much. You seem to have found a place where what is expect of you and where you really are meet in profound understanding.

New age; adapt, evolve...or get ran over.

Ok I will good bye to the gentlemen here comes the bad boy! since that seems to be what the other side likes so much. Maybe I sould do the running over!!!

That was a joke BTW

Try southern women; a friend of mine is dating a girl in Alabama and the other day she told him she wanted him to "woo her," I didn't think people still used words like that. So apparently the days of ladies and gentlemen and wooing still exist, you just have to find a woman who's into that sort of thing. Personally it annoys me when a man opens a door for me, I can open doors for myself. But I already pointed out that I'm a tad b!tchy, and therefore, not a lady. I am woman, hear me roar. RAWR!!!!

You don't have to be "bad" just don't be so mushy and soft and all that. I'm sure some women like that, but others don't. I don't want a guy who's going to slap me upside the head, but I don't want one who talks baby talk and runs around bringing up the days of Camelot either. Balance is the key.

If that is what you consider evolution...go for it.

Although, I should warn you, it won't work. Here, let me lay it out in a rough draft form.

1950-Probably the last age of this so-called "gentleman."
1960-People started speaking up, and out, women started working, living equally among "gentlemen."
1970-Business is booming, women are at the forefront, suddenly "gentlemen" don't need to pay for everything.
1980-Boom! Women want to do everything man can do! OMG!
1990-Politics, and all of the drivel associated with it. Women become apart of it.
2000-The first age that we see a female canidate for presidency.

In end, women want to be treated fair, equal even...with a side of the ever-so-loving open doors for them. It is a balance, everything is, which is why we must continually evolve with the changing times. Or we can whine that those times are long but dead.

Continue doing whatever it is that you do, someone will enjoy it, some won't...diversity is a ***** like that.

Feminism Gods gift to woman.

people like sage, Iam4u, owl, and most others over fifty and on back, have has this engrained in us from small children because it was a must for a formal time. i remember when most wore a fedora style hat out, and a straw hat on the weekends. i still have all mine, and wear them off and on, but i've seen on here, many young men like sekinwisdom here, that are still opening doors and things, even though they are in the minority, but this behavior will renew, and morph as chivalry will not die, but change to more subtle aspects....more like kudos gifts and such. we don't have glen miller at the top of the charts, or Tony Bennet or Perry Como for a good slowdance anymore....
now, it's a good slow phukc on the dance floor to a good trance or chill, or type O- or something done in the dark corner of an industrial club in pvc or leather....or just some pick-up truck out in the country....i've seen it all.....well, maybe not, but i've seen enough...

things aren't as close or rightious, and they make their own rules in more modern times. casual sex has taken over courting, for people can't wait, and are too impatient and want everything right now.... BSDM, light or heavy, is becoming a more staple diet for sex, as people get more and more bored with general vanilla sex and courting, and there's always a mind bender with it, it seems, for everybody's bored with their mind too, and have to get high......

high, used to be....ummm......up?


just my observations again, as i walk in a darker lifestyle than most, and observe, but not participate, as my path is more my own path for my own wisdom.