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And I just wanna throw out there that not all people who profess faith in God are Christians...that is where our human discernment comes into play...sometimes if it looks like a rock, and smells like a rock, if you drop it it is still a piece of hardened horse ****....and maybe it might smell a little, but you get my point... nope not really...you're speaking in parables....aren't parables why there are some many different sects of christians because they are confused as to what Jesus spoke ..so come on don't tell us what came out of the horses's ***...let's hear what came out of the horse's mouth in other words....WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT WILLIS? Just because people say they are christians or cathlic, or anything else for that matter, doesn't mean they are. I reread your question, and thought for a moment you were asking about christians, the followers and not christianity as a whole. Because when the rapture comes "christians" will be gone, but not all claims form people believing they are will be. I can say I am a rich beautiful heiress, but it doesn't make me one... well just in case the rapture is for those bad christians ..let's bypass the rapture for a moment...so which christians are destined for Heaven? ..for instance are those that lie about what's in the bible and therefore lie about God's word going to Heaven? what about those that believe that a Man is God...are they going? |
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ya know alot of christians remind me of that commercial where the cows hint"eat more chicken" so the cows can be saved...well its kind of like "believe more in jesus" and people will be saved.tell that to the people in "Jonestown"
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Seems to me that you(Arcamedees) have not made one good point yet that would be helpful to anyone except for yourself. I want readers to keep this in mind as they go through your ridiculous posts of HATE. People need to be loving each other-not hating each other. I think that any 2 year old with a brain could figure that one out.
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RKISIT
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i think miniraptures have happened,the holocaust,inquisition,jonestown,crusades,the atomic bomb,911 attacks...etc etc. but yet not one sign of Jesus or god in any of these events.
yet 6,000+years ago God would have said or done something |
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Every bible-worshipper here owes it to his or herself to look closely into the Dead Sea Scrolls(The Old Testament) and Ancient Sumerian text which both predate the bible to understand Christianity. I would recommend looking into John Marco Allegro, author of more than 10 books, whom was highly unappreciated. He was a top-notch Manchester University scholar that was appointed by the pope to translate the Dead Sea Scrolls found in Jordan in the 50's. He was the only agnostic on the team, for the rest were Catholic priests. His findings may startle you. Problem is, you would have to able to read Aramaic to accurately follow the entire argument, for only a handful of people actually had a chance to translate this Sumerian textual document.. Here is a good video to see his findings... http://www.pharmacratic-inquisition.com/main/ I recommend that everyone in this thread checks out this important information which very well could debunk the entire Christian religion. You owe it to yourself to look into this research. Don't be scurred of new information. This information leads to a whole new way of thinking regarding religion in general combining teaching from around the globe. I would also look into Professor Dr. John Rush for more information regarding these subjects. More good people to hear are Terrence McKenna, Judith Anne Brown, and Bill Hicks. LoL nice job and good try at trying to say Jesus was on drugs. More or less this is what you're proclaiming for that site was centered around that. I needed a good chuckle for the night, thanks. Cowboy, you should watch the video there with an open mind. First, it claims Jesus was in fact, a drug, not that he was on drugs. It gives a lot of background info on a few of the so-called "Christian" rituals that I have already pointed out as being Pagan in origin. It's almost 2 hours long but well worth it. I won't say I agree with the film, but it did put a whole new twist on what I already knew. A twist that, in my opinion, is plausible. For those who would like to argue that anyone is going to hell, I give you this... http://www.thetwowedgesword.com/thehellhoax.htm |
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Every bible-worshipper here owes it to his or herself to look closely into the Dead Sea Scrolls(The Old Testament) and Ancient Sumerian text which both predate the bible to understand Christianity. I would recommend looking into John Marco Allegro, author of more than 10 books, whom was highly unappreciated. He was a top-notch Manchester University scholar that was appointed by the pope to translate the Dead Sea Scrolls found in Jordan in the 50's. He was the only agnostic on the team, for the rest were Catholic priests. His findings may startle you. Problem is, you would have to able to read Aramaic to accurately follow the entire argument, for only a handful of people actually had a chance to translate this Sumerian textual document.. Here is a good video to see his findings... http://www.pharmacratic-inquisition.com/main/ I recommend that everyone in this thread checks out this important information which very well could debunk the entire Christian religion. You owe it to yourself to look into this research. Don't be scurred of new information. This information leads to a whole new way of thinking regarding religion in general combining teaching from around the globe. I would also look into Professor Dr. John Rush for more information regarding these subjects. More good people to hear are Terrence McKenna, Judith Anne Brown, and Bill Hicks. LoL nice job and good try at trying to say Jesus was on drugs. More or less this is what you're proclaiming for that site was centered around that. I needed a good chuckle for the night, thanks. Cowboy, you should watch the video there with an open mind. First, it claims Jesus was in fact, a drug, not that he was on drugs. It gives a lot of background info on a few of the so-called "Christian" rituals that I have already pointed out as being Pagan in origin. It's almost 2 hours long but well worth it. I won't say I agree with the film, but it did put a whole new twist on what I already knew. A twist that, in my opinion, is plausible. For those who would like to argue that anyone is going to hell, I give you this... http://www.thetwowedgesword.com/thehellhoax.htm Oh but peter my defence still stands that no one goes to hell. Satan and his angels are in hell now. Hell was not made for man. The lake of fire and hell are two totally different places. In the end of times Satan and his fallen angels will be thrown into the lake of fire as well. Hell is destroyed in the end of times as well. Thus Satan his angels and those that did not receive the gift of heaven are thrown into the lake of fire for eternal punishment. Hell is merely a holding place for Satan as of now waiting till judgement. |
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Don't you understand why there are terminal illnesses and bad things in this world, because of sin, Sweetie. Perhaps those folks don't understand why they are suffering. I have no idea why some people suffer more than others on Earth. I do know that God has a grand plan in it all. I cannot make any of you see or understand that, but I know it exists nonetheless. Present your evidence. Obviously, your beliefs work for you, and paraphrasing Thomas Jefferson, those beliefs "...neither pick my pocket or break my legs." But, you're going to have to be far more persuasive and base your arguments on more solid constructs than Christian theology if I'm going to invest myself in those beliefs. I've already been there, and they didn't work for me. I can't unlearn what I've seen on lab instruments or witnessed by rubbing shoulders with people who even now are unravelling the mysteries of life on this planet. For example, have you ever heard of Henrietta Lacks? She died of an extremely virulent form of cancer in the middle of the last century. Yet, some of her cells live on in the laboratory. Were you to look at those cells under a microscope, you couldn't possibly see sin. And I doubt you could find any particle of a soul in them. My skepticism, intellectual curiosity, thirst for knowledge and readiness to discard the unproven has served me well over the period of my lifetime. I can no more give them up than you can your faith. -Kerry O. Kerry, sin is not in the blood or in cells. Sin is the actions of human beings. It is the things we do wrong and ways we are disobedient. But Gummi, when the surgeons at Johns Hopkins did surgery on me, they were getting rid of something (if you believe God makes people) of something allegedly put there by your god. Apparently, I was born with the abnormal lesion and it just got worse. And that lesion did not consist of my or other peoples' sins or disobedient actions. All the prayer in the world couldn't have made it go away. The ancient Hebrews, even on their best day, couldn't have designed and built the machines that the doctors used to diagnose and pinpoint it. The doctors of the middle ages could never have developed the skills to deal with it either. It's fortunate that I was born in the Age of Reason. Otherwise, my life would have probably been a short and painful one. -Kerry O. |
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Don't you understand why there are terminal illnesses and bad things in this world, because of sin, Sweetie. Perhaps those folks don't understand why they are suffering. I have no idea why some people suffer more than others on Earth. I do know that God has a grand plan in it all. I cannot make any of you see or understand that, but I know it exists nonetheless. Present your evidence. Obviously, your beliefs work for you, and paraphrasing Thomas Jefferson, those beliefs "...neither pick my pocket or break my legs." But, you're going to have to be far more persuasive and base your arguments on more solid constructs than Christian theology if I'm going to invest myself in those beliefs. I've already been there, and they didn't work for me. I can't unlearn what I've seen on lab instruments or witnessed by rubbing shoulders with people who even now are unravelling the mysteries of life on this planet. For example, have you ever heard of Henrietta Lacks? She died of an extremely virulent form of cancer in the middle of the last century. Yet, some of her cells live on in the laboratory. Were you to look at those cells under a microscope, you couldn't possibly see sin. And I doubt you could find any particle of a soul in them. My skepticism, intellectual curiosity, thirst for knowledge and readiness to discard the unproven has served me well over the period of my lifetime. I can no more give them up than you can your faith. -Kerry O. Kerry, sin is not in the blood or in cells. Sin is the actions of human beings. It is the things we do wrong and ways we are disobedient. But Gummi, when the surgeons at Johns Hopkins did surgery on me, they were getting rid of something (if you believe God makes people) of something allegedly put there by your god. Apparently, I was born with the abnormal lesion and it just got worse. And that lesion did not consist of my or other peoples' sins or disobedient actions. All the prayer in the world couldn't have made it go away. The ancient Hebrews, even on their best day, couldn't have designed and built the machines that the doctors used to diagnose and pinpoint it. The doctors of the middle ages could never have developed the skills to deal with it either. It's fortunate that I was born in the Age of Reason. Otherwise, my life would have probably been a short and painful one. -Kerry O. And how are you trying to simulate you having lesion to sins? So you got lesion, it was healed, move on my friend. The two have nothing to do with each other. |
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i think miniraptures have happened,the holocaust,inquisition,jonestown,crusades,the atomic bomb,911 attacks...etc etc. but yet not one sign of Jesus or god in any of these events. yet 6,000+years ago God would have said or done something He has said something, it's call the bible. It's not his fault you or others don't listen or give credit to. And he will do something, it's call the rapture. Since the coming of Jesus we are judged on judgement day rather then an everyday form. So therefore in the rapture/end of times people will be punished. |
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Don't you understand why there are terminal illnesses and bad things in this world, because of sin, Sweetie. Perhaps those folks don't understand why they are suffering. I have no idea why some people suffer more than others on Earth. I do know that God has a grand plan in it all. I cannot make any of you see or understand that, but I know it exists nonetheless. Present your evidence. Obviously, your beliefs work for you, and paraphrasing Thomas Jefferson, those beliefs "...neither pick my pocket or break my legs." But, you're going to have to be far more persuasive and base your arguments on more solid constructs than Christian theology if I'm going to invest myself in those beliefs. I've already been there, and they didn't work for me. I can't unlearn what I've seen on lab instruments or witnessed by rubbing shoulders with people who even now are unravelling the mysteries of life on this planet. For example, have you ever heard of Henrietta Lacks? She died of an extremely virulent form of cancer in the middle of the last century. Yet, some of her cells live on in the laboratory. Were you to look at those cells under a microscope, you couldn't possibly see sin. And I doubt you could find any particle of a soul in them. My skepticism, intellectual curiosity, thirst for knowledge and readiness to discard the unproven has served me well over the period of my lifetime. I can no more give them up than you can your faith. -Kerry O. Kerry, sin is not in the blood or in cells. Sin is the actions of human beings. It is the things we do wrong and ways we are disobedient. But Gummi, when the surgeons at Johns Hopkins did surgery on me, they were getting rid of something (if you believe God makes people) of something allegedly put there by your god. Apparently, I was born with the abnormal lesion and it just got worse. And that lesion did not consist of my or other peoples' sins or disobedient actions. All the prayer in the world couldn't have made it go away. The ancient Hebrews, even on their best day, couldn't have designed and built the machines that the doctors used to diagnose and pinpoint it. The doctors of the middle ages could never have developed the skills to deal with it either. It's fortunate that I was born in the Age of Reason. Otherwise, my life would have probably been a short and painful one. -Kerry O. And how are you trying to simulate you having lesion to sins? So you got lesion, it was healed, move on my friend. The two have nothing to do with each other. Precisely. But Gummi seems to think there is some link. -Kerry O. |
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Seems to me that you(Arcamedees) have not made one good point yet that would be helpful to anyone except for yourself. I want readers to keep this in mind as they go through your ridiculous posts of HATE. People need to be loving each other-not hating each other. I think that any 2 year old with a brain could figure that one out. LMAO!  I have been patiently waiting for someone else to call him out on that besides me, since I called his BS in the other thread! Ha ha ha ha ha! 
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Seems to me that you(Arcamedees) have not made one good point yet that would be helpful to anyone except for yourself. I want readers to keep this in mind as they go through your ridiculous posts of HATE. People need to be loving each other-not hating each other. I think that any 2 year old with a brain could figure that one out. LMAO! I have been patiently waiting for someone else to call him out on that besides me, since I called his BS in the other thread! Ha ha ha ha ha! "People need to be loving each other-not hating each other" The Bible on: Love? "I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children." (Leviticus 26:22) "Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourself every girl who has never slept with a man." (Numbers 31:17-18) "The Lord commands: "... slay old men outright, young men and maidens, little children and women" (Ezechial 9:4-6) "When the Lord delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the males .... As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves." (Deuteronomy 20:13-14) "You will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your God has given you." (Deuteronomy 28:53) "The Lord said to Joshua [...] 'you are to hamstring their horses.' " (Exceedingly cruel.) (Joshua 11:6) "... Go and smite the inhabitants of Jabesh-gilead with the edge of the sword and; also the women and little ones.... every male and every woman that has lain with a male you shall utterly destroy." (Judges 21:10-12) "This is what the Lord says: Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have; do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and *** .... And Saul ... utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword." (1 Samuel 15:3,7-8) "The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their women with child ripped open." (Hosea 13:16) "A curse on him who is lax in doing the LORD's work! A curse on him who keeps his sword from bloodshed!" (Jeremiah 48:10) Is this really the "word of God" or the cruel thoughts of Bronze age warriors? Did you know this was in the bible? If not then are you shocked? If you did know it was there then is Christianity really about a healthy loving relationship or is it a case of the Stockholm syndrome?" Considering that yall's "love" of Hitler did enough damage...wait, then you guys supported the Dippic into office giving us this disaster we live in today...a million Arabs killed. Thousands of our soldiers die for a lie...ALL for your "love" I guess it's all about LIES. |
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Edited by
CeriseRose
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Thu 10/14/10 09:13 PM
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Yet... you are so guilty of these acts yourselves. I never persecuted anyone in the name of Jesus Christ Almighty or in the name of Satan. You spew meaningless and unsupportable accusations at people just to support a mythology that truly is guilty of inciting madness in people. What Cowboy is doing is attempting to proselytize HIS VERSION and interpretation of these ancient myths. Cowboy cannot claim to "Speak for Jesus" anymore than anyone else. Anymore than me, in fact! There mere fact that Cowboy fell for this ancient mythology does not grant him any special authority on them. A lot of people fell for these myths and used them in entirely different ways. I think the Malleus Maleficarum is the perfect example of precisely how dangerous these religious myths can be. We're talking about two very serious and high-ranking Christian monks who certainly out-rank Cowboy in terms of being devout religious clergy. Yet this is the kind of superstitious and hideous thing they come up with. In fact, look at YOU! You say: What YOU are doing is more characteristic of satan Even today in these modern times even you are perpetuating the same kind of fears about some Satanic demon that caused the Christian Monks centuries ago to write the Malleus Maleficarum. If you were living in a highly Christian society where even the government (or King) was a devout Christian, you could very well be the person who starts writing similar books on how to expose Heathens who are "Possessed by Satan". You're already suggesting as much! Accusing people have having the characteristics of Satan. It's the same old medieval superstitions being proselytized today in the name of Jesus the Christ Almighty.  I'm not impressed in the least. These superstitious bigoted religions with their jealous God are dangerous. There can be no doubt about it. Disbelievers are quickly labeled as "Acting on behalf of Satan!" When are these ancient ignorant superstitions going to end? Everyone who refuses to believe that Jesus was a bigot who hates heathens is automatically labeled as a heathen who Jesus hates.  Surely you have not convinced yourself that only Christians can be bigoted... for you yourself show extreme traits of intolerance toward Christianity, all the while twisting scriptures with tempestuous rantings. You have zero tolerance for the convictions of Christians. You go as far as to brutally bash and blaspheme the Name of the very God who cradled you from birth. (As you were raised in a Christian home.) Rebelliously, you just wish it would all go away (depising your beginnings). Your so-called college education has lifted you above your former associations. You search and search all other religions to find a replacement for the one that you abandoned. Ok, so now you have bought the lies and sold your soul to become the step-child of spirituality and reason... Ever learning and never coming to the knowledge of the truth. The proverbial "dog chasing its tail". If you run fast enough, do you think you might catch it? As for comparing your characteristics to those of satan, not many would chance the response of a sovereign God, to give such an exhibition. Except one who believed his fate has already been decided upon. |
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Surely you have not convinced yourself that only Christians can be bigoted...for you yourself show extreme traits of intolerance toward Christianity, all the while twisting scriptures with tempestuous rantings. What you say here is totally incorrect simply because you mistake the very idea of WHO the Christians were. The followers of this mythology are not the Christians. The Christians are the people who actually wrote it. The followers simply call themselves "Christians". Most modern Christians don't even fully realize what the Bible actually says, much less believe it. The doctrine demands religious bigotry. Can you deny that? According to this doctrine to reject these stories as the "Word of God" is an "unforgivable sin". According to John, to fail to recognize that Jesus is the only begotten son of God is cause for condemnation. These aren't my ideas. Moreover, let's get perfectly straight what true bigotry actually consists of. These original Christians who wrote the Bible, as well as the authors who wrote the Torah, or Old Testament, are saying that anyone who refuses to believe in their writings is a heathen who is against God. It claims right in the scriptures that no good can come from a heathen. Heathens have been branded as "enemies of God", and have been judged to be condemned. Not to mention the obvious fact, that having been branded as such anything they say or do will automatically be dismissed as unwise and possible even an act of Satan. Now when have I ever claimed that people who don't believe like me are 'heathens' or that God will reject them, or that they must be up to no good? I haven't. So accusing me of such religious bigotry is nonsense. I don't condemn "Christians" (In this case I'm actually referring to the people who claim to follow this religion). But I do point out the fact that they are spreading and perpetuating a religiously bigoted doctrine. I believe that God loves everyone. Where's the bigotry in that? You have zero tolerance for the convictions of Christians. You go as far as to brutally bash and blaspheme the Name of the very God who cradled you from birth. (As you were raised in a Christian home.) I have zero tolerance for the constant proseyltizing of Christians who demand that an ancient ignorant and clearly violent and unwise fable is the "Word of God". Hey, if they want to believe that for themselves, then more power to them.  But they can't do that. They are out to proselytize and evangelize this morbid stuff onto everyone else. And they also judge everyone who refuses to accept this morbid stuff to be "rejecting God". Just as you are suggesting that I'm doing in your very post. Have I ever accused you of rejecting God? I do feel that you seem to be bent on insulting God by demanding that these ancient Hebrew myths speak for God. But insulting God is not the same as rejecting Her. She forgives you for you know not what you do. Rebelliously, you just wish it would all go away (depising your beginnings). I see these Abrahamic myths as a spiritual cancer on humanity, yes. What do you mean by, "despising my beginnings".  So these brainwashing scheme of the ancient Hebrews didn't take on me. So what? As I became older, wiser, and more mature, I realized that it's all a bunch of lies made up by a society that didn't even have decent moral values to begin with. Your so-called college education has lifted you above your former associations. College has nothing to do with it whatsoever. I started to recognize the fallacies of the Biblical stories while I was still in High School. Moreover, several of my uncles were preachers and they often came over for dinner. I watched them discussing religion between themselves and realized first-hand that even preachers of the very same denomination don't agree on everything. And sometimes disagree on major points. It doesn't take a genius to recognize that globally the same thing has occurred in all off-shoots from these original myths. The Jews who had the original myth didn't even buy into the idea that Jesus was "The Christ". Islam is an off-shoot of these same Abrahamic tales. Catholicism is the only "True Christianity" as far as I can see. The protestants are the rebellious ones who protested against the "body of Christ" (i.e. the church) and ran off to form their own personal opinions. They have since been dubbed to be "Paper Popes", because they are nothing more than opinionated men who are attempting to come up with their own interpretations of the ancient scriptures. And clearly the protestants have fallen into many various groups. Look at the Amish. They reject technology altogether as being "evil" in the name of this doctrine. So it's not merely my opinion that the religion is nothing more than just a bunch of people's opinions. It's historically been verified to be precisely that. Moreover you accuse me of being "rebellious" but what about all those protesting protestants who "rebelled" against the original form of Christianity? Protestants have no room to be calling anyone else "rebellious". I just took Protestantism to the ultimate level. I read the scriptures for myself and came to my own conclusions. My conclusion is that the Old Testament has no more merit than Greek mythology and the New Testament are rumors about a mortal man who actually taught against the very unwise moral values of the false Old Testament. The idea that Jesus could be the "Son" of the original fabled God is utterly absurd, IMHO. That's a valid position and assessment to take. Poor Jesus was trying to teach people better morals and ended up becoming a victim of the very mythology he was renouncing. Jesus wasn't a God, he was a victim. You search and search all other religions to find a replacement for the one that you abandoned. No, you're totally incorrect in this. I don't need a replacement mythology. I don't need to have a particular mythology in order to believe in a spiritual existence to reality. However, having said that, I find it interesting to study the ideas, thoughts, and traditions of other humans on Planet Earth. It's interesting to see what the commonalities are. I do tend to believe in the power of shamanism and shamanic journey work. Simply because it was used and recognized by so many cultures. In fact, even many of the Biblical stories have "god" speaking to men through visions and dreams. That's shamanism. This my come as a complete and utter shock to you, but I actually believe that many of the shamanic experiences described by the authors of the Bible probably were indeed "divine inspiration". However, that doesn't automatically make every word of ever story the absolute infallible word of some Zeus-like Godhead. Ok, so now you have bought the lies and sold your soul to become the step-child of spirituality and reason... What are you doing here? Attempting to insult me with your Christian Bigotry again? Ever learning and never coming to the knowledge of the truth. The proverbial "dog chasing its tail". If you run fast enough, do you think you might catch it? You cling to a mythology created by a very unwise and patriarchal male-chauvinistic society. A doctrine that clearly states that Women should not speak out on important social matters and especially not on religion. That would be the word of YOUR God. Yet you don't seem to care much for your LORD's wishes. As for comparing your characteristics to those of satan, not many would chance the response of a sovereign God, to give such an exhibition. Except one who believed his fate has already been decided upon. I absolutely believe that my fate has been decided. And I'm quite happy about. The difference between you and I is that I actually trust God and you don't. I trust my creator to be truly wise, truly intelligent, and truly righteous. And that's all I need. As long as my creator truly possesses these qualities then my fate is sealed. I'll go straight to "Seventh Heaven" when I die (to use a common human expression) There's no question about it. I have nothing to be 'saved' from other than from the people who are trying to get me to belittle God by joining an organized bigotry wagon that they use to condemn everyone who refuses to climb aboard. Have I condemned you? Most certainly not. I have absolutely no idea what your fate might be. I know nothing of you. However, I TRUST GOD enough to believe that She will be fair and just with you. So if you are a fair and just person I see no reason why She won't treat you as such. And no, I don't truly believe that God is a woman. No more than I believe he's a man. God is spirit. I am spirit. God and I are one. This I know. Yes, it's true, the Eastern Mystics have also recognized this same basic truth and this is why I point to them as having the wisest of all philosophies. But I don't believe this because they say it's true. I believe it because I know it to be true in the core of my being. I believe like Jesus believed. I and "the Father" or "the Mother" are one. However you want to think of it. I am that I am. That's what Jesus taught, and that's also what I believe. I agree with Jesus. So you should be tickled pink. There is no arrogant egotistical male-chauvinistic pig that you have to cower down to in order to be 'saved' from his wrath. That would be worse than atheism. Jesus said, "Ye are gods", he also said, "Whatever you do to the least of your brothern you do unto me", because he knew the truth. We are god. Each and every one of us. So have a little faith and try trusting God instead of fearing God.  |
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Catholicism is the only "True Christianity" as far as I can see. I thought we put this issue to bed... You make fun of a Christian who would say that yet you, a self-professed "non-believer", get to use the term and judge who fits it? So you deny the facts presented to you earlier about the pagan influence on the Catholic church? What's funny is that you say you don't believe the lie and somehow still do..... |
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not complaining, just stating a fact that not all religious people fall into his category, and my first post said nothing remotely close to a complaint, I just answered your question. As far as I am concerned, I spoke my peace and am done. I think the problems start when people read into others statements, the main question was do you think rapture will end christianity, not do you believe in God the father and Jesus His son, or who can twist more words around for them to say what I want them too, right? So there is alot of off topic debat going on and there will be no winner today, wether because of my faith or because of the finality of death one day each of us will know the answers we look for, and everyone has a right to their own beliefs, I can end by saying that sometimes you just know that you know, I wasn't there the day Jesus was crucified, or with Mary when she went to his empty tomb, but I was there the moment I asked Jesus to come in my life and make me His own. And no one ever said believeing in God would be easy, just worth it. I have a joy in my heart and testimony to share from the grace God has shown me. Today it is my decision to praise the Lord a conscous decision I make every moment of my life, I sin, and I fall short everyday, I don't seek perfection, I seek the best I can do. In my faith I am suppose to outwardly acknowledge Christ, with words and works, at the end of today I will lay down in my bed in my apartment, and have to be accountable for my day, I have told you what I believe, not made judgements on you or what you believe, and I am o.k. with that. It is not my job as a follower of Christ to brain wash you or try and make you think my way is a better way to believe, it is just to show you there is another option, so like my brother before you says, on the day of judgement you cannot point to me and say..."but Jennifer never told me, I never knew"..... By your own religious dogma, anyone who hears "the word" and rejects it goes to Hell. So, by telling non-believers about "the word" and not convincing them that it's true and correct, aren't you condemning them to Hell, via "the word"? No, for it is still their own free will to either believe or not. The person spreading the word can not literally change that. It has to be done willingly by the person it is given to. So...what happens if someone is born, lives and dies, with out hearing "the word"? |
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not complaining, just stating a fact that not all religious people fall into his category, and my first post said nothing remotely close to a complaint, I just answered your question. As far as I am concerned, I spoke my peace and am done. I think the problems start when people read into others statements, the main question was do you think rapture will end christianity, not do you believe in God the father and Jesus His son, or who can twist more words around for them to say what I want them too, right? So there is alot of off topic debat going on and there will be no winner today, wether because of my faith or because of the finality of death one day each of us will know the answers we look for, and everyone has a right to their own beliefs, I can end by saying that sometimes you just know that you know, I wasn't there the day Jesus was crucified, or with Mary when she went to his empty tomb, but I was there the moment I asked Jesus to come in my life and make me His own. And no one ever said believeing in God would be easy, just worth it. I have a joy in my heart and testimony to share from the grace God has shown me. Today it is my decision to praise the Lord a conscous decision I make every moment of my life, I sin, and I fall short everyday, I don't seek perfection, I seek the best I can do. In my faith I am suppose to outwardly acknowledge Christ, with words and works, at the end of today I will lay down in my bed in my apartment, and have to be accountable for my day, I have told you what I believe, not made judgements on you or what you believe, and I am o.k. with that. It is not my job as a follower of Christ to brain wash you or try and make you think my way is a better way to believe, it is just to show you there is another option, so like my brother before you says, on the day of judgement you cannot point to me and say..."but Jennifer never told me, I never knew"..... By your own religious dogma, anyone who hears "the word" and rejects it goes to Hell. So, by telling non-believers about "the word" and not convincing them that it's true and correct, aren't you condemning them to Hell, via "the word"? No, for it is still their own free will to either believe or not. The person spreading the word can not literally change that. It has to be done willingly by the person it is given to. So...what happens if someone is born, lives and dies, with out hearing "the word"? Romans 2 |
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No, it is my job to plant a seed, nothing more nothing less...and hell is a choice, as long as you have breath in your body you have a choice to believe or not. If Jesus himself could walk the earth and not convince everyone He met to become a Christian how could I? Funches...I am a woman and with that comes a level of complaining no matter what I do, I try and avoid it as much as possible, yet it does seep out now and again, my bad... I thought it was the man's job to plant a seed. Have I been doing it wrong all these years???
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And I just wanna throw out there that not all people who profess faith in God are Christians...that is where our human discernment comes into play...sometimes if it looks like a rock, and smells like a rock, if you drop it it is still a piece of hardened horse ****....and maybe it might smell a little, but you get my point... nope not really...you're speaking in parables....aren't parables why there are some many different sects of christians because they are confused as to what Jesus spoke ..so come on don't tell us what came out of the horses's ***...let's hear what came out of the horse's mouth in other words....WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT WILLIS? 
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Seems to me that you(Arcamedees) have not made one good point yet that would be helpful to anyone except for yourself. I want readers to keep this in mind as they go through your ridiculous posts of HATE. People need to be loving each other-not hating each other. I think that any 2 year old with a brain could figure that one out. Hey, at least I know what the quote button is for....damn I just ended that sentence w/ a preposition...I hate it when I do that... OOPS..there I go again preaching hate... I don't think you know many 2 year olds Sparky. They really aren't much more than crying puking crap machines at 2. It's a good thing they're cute or noone would have 'em. My "ridiculous posts", as you say, are simply me being a smarta$$. Emphasis on the smart. Actually, on the a$$ too.. It's called humor. Google it. And yeah, I gotta lotta hate. I've never tried to hide it. I hate stupid people. I hate lazy ignorant a-holes. I hate inconsiderate people. And I hate burn-out cases preaching how wonderful it is to do hallucinogens. The first thing that happens to one's brain when you start doing crap like that is that one's cognitive abilities go away. The next thing that happens is that the brain loses it's ability to distinguish between reality and fantasy. Eventually, doing enough of that crap leads to insanity and or retardation. I've seen it happen. Over and over again. And because cognitive functions are diminished, the one going through this NEVER EVER realizes this. The absolute best thing that can happen to people like you is that they get busted and forced into treatment. And hopefully the damage isn't permanent. If you had enough working grey matter left, you'd see the absurdity of saying something like "hallucinogens get you in touch with your spirituality and God" or whatever nonsense you were spouting. IT'S NOT REAL. NOTHING YOU SEE OR FEEL WHILE ON ANY HALLUCINOGEN IS REAL. But of course, you'll deny this. People like you always do. |
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