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Did you know that Paul Stamets(mycologist) has proven that human beings are genetically related to the mushroom? http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/paul_stamets_on_6_ways_mushrooms_can_save_the_world.html Well, there is the link for ya. Also, did you know that the mycelium fungus makes up 25% of the Earth's crust? Therefore, are you saying that the very thing that we as humans are genetically related to is a drug? Did you know that psilocybin is a DMT compound? Furthermore, did you know that when you are in deep sleep, your brain releases 4 different kinds of LSD/DMT(article from Boston Globe) allowing you to dream? The only thing psilocybin mushrooms allow you to do is to dream while you are consciously awake. So, it is not a drug sir... It is a natural substance that was used by ancient shamans for thousands of years in order to have visions of the past, present and future. Reality is only a matter of perception, but to become aware to this fact is extremely difficult unless you have ingested this magical substance yourself. Only then can you be aware of the point of this message without applying judgement and ridicule. Does insanity run in your family? Just curious... |
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Confusion is present. I have searched as many versions of the book of man called the 'bible'. I have yet to find this 'rapture' mentioned in one. Not only that but the timelines mentioned by 'scholars' of this book (the bible) do not fit the scientific facts. It will be at least 4 billion more years before the earth 'falls' into the lake of fire (or is 'flung' into the abyss). By that time MY decendants will be watching from the stars. Life moves allways forward. only mankind keeps dragging its feet. The bible may not use the word rapture but it does indeed tell of the rapture. Here's one of the area's in which it's spoke of. I tell of more if needed. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18Wherefore comfort one another with these words. So when that happens, can I have your car? |
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Did you know that Paul Stamets(mycologist) has proven that human beings are genetically related to the mushroom? http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/paul_stamets_on_6_ways_mushrooms_can_save_the_world.html Well, there is the link for ya. Also, did you know that the mycelium fungus makes up 25% of the Earth's crust? Therefore, are you saying that the very thing that we as humans are genetically related to is a drug? Did you know that psilocybin is a DMT compound? Furthermore, did you know that when you are in deep sleep, your brain releases 4 different kinds of LSD/DMT(article from Boston Globe) allowing you to dream? The only thing psilocybin mushrooms allow you to do is to dream while you are consciously awake. So, it is not a drug sir... It is a natural substance that was used by ancient shamans for thousands of years in order to have visions of the past, present and future. Reality is only a matter of perception, but to become aware to this fact is extremely difficult unless you have ingested this magical substance yourself. Only then can you be aware of the point of this message without applying judgement and ridicule. Yes we are "related" to everything on the planet in one way or other. We are all one, weather it be with the planet, animals, people around, and so on. We are all made up of the same things, we are all one. How very American Indian of you. |
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Would you also agree that people must come together in this time of turmoil? Yes we must all stay together. There is strength in numbers. There are also unruly mobs in numbers. Numbers scare me. |
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Regardless of our unique differences, we all must come together as one unit against oppression. Our whole lives, we have lived a conquer-and-divide lifestyle, and it is time to rejoin as one unit together in perfect harmony using our individual talents for the benefit of the world. I love you all as my brothers and sisters. Speak for yourself. And really, you're not my type. sorry... |
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Without getting to far into Bible debate, to answer your question, will the Rapture rid the world of Christians, my answer is No...because if your are talking rapture as the day God calls His believers home to heaven and the seals are open for open for the last days...No way Christianity will multiply like wild fire... And I am a believer of Christ Jesus, I believe He is God the Fathers son and paid the price of my sins on a cross and on the third day he rose again. I can't believe that a question about the day of rapture was put in those terms, if you believe there is gonna be a day like that then you have to believe a little in the Bible. All men of science are gonna call that day something else, only believers will call it rapture. And I can't say anything for anyone else but in my opinion if I read and didn't believe in the Bible and a world wide event like rapture came, I would have faith in droves...and after the rapture when the revelation prophesies started coming true, I would find faith. In those last days alot of people are going to be looking for something, humans inately have to look for something as a higher power, something to make sense of things, and the fact rapture as described thousands of years ago, will make alot of people reconsider our religion of Christianity, especially when they look at who was raptured.... On that day, I will so join Satan's honorable fight against the supremely unjust and dictatorial God. And I'll be driving a lot of new cars... |
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No it wasn't lol, Jesus DID NOT commit suicide. Jesus was crucified for spreading what those people seen as blasphemy. Which was in reality the truth and the new covenant between people and our father. so John 3:16 is wrong?....God didn't give the world his only begotton son? Yes, God sent his only begotten son so whosever believes in shall not parish but have ever lasting life. Does not say God sent his only begotten son to be hung on a cross. God sent Jesus to teach us of the new covenant. ok..since every bible I've ever seen specifically states that God "gave" his only begotton son....now all you have to do is point out which bible states that God "sent" his only begotton son Gave and sent are not synonyms for crucified nor mean anything of the same. Cowboy..trying to replace God's word "gave" with "sent" shows how you once again got catch telling another lie about the bible when you said that you wouldn't when you got busted telling the lie about no children drown in the great flood because they were all on noah's ark....what's the point of debating with you if you are going to lie and askew the truth...isn't that what people claim that Satan does What Cowboy is doing is trying to give a testimony about the goodness and mercy of God, but he is falling into the snares and traps that you and others are trying to set for him. What YOU are doing is more characteristic of satan than Cowboy's efforts. You and others continually mention the persecutions and witch hunts of the past. Yet... you are so guilty of these acts yourselves. Your life could be required of you this day, are you ready? Yes, someday Christians will be taken away... but what remains will in no way be a utopia Most believers, realize that most of you will reject the WORD of God, but nevertheless, we are required to share the Good News so that you are without excuse at the judgement. It is indeed coming to a close Is your computer screen like 3 inches across or what? |
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I just want to throw in my 2 cents...I am not religiously intolerant of anyone. I have friends that are gay, bisexual, hell even lesbians that are married to each other, I befriend lots of people, perfection and religious ideals, color, not prerequisites to be my friend, I even keep the liars and cheats as my friends. Why? Because everyone is different, we were made that way, and I can love and appreciate people for who they are on their journey in life, I have my morals and standards, and you have yours, I have choose the path religiously that I want to follow, doesn't make me superior or right, it just makes me, well me. In the Bible it tells me to share my faith with others so I do, I don't preach much, and I hardly ever get aggrivated and have all night arguements, but if I respect you for your beliefs can't you do the same for me?>?? I can respect YOU far more than what superstitions you believe. |
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not complaining, just stating a fact that not all religious people fall into his category, and my first post said nothing remotely close to a complaint, I just answered your question. As far as I am concerned, I spoke my peace and am done. I think the problems start when people read into others statements, the main question was do you think rapture will end christianity, not do you believe in God the father and Jesus His son, or who can twist more words around for them to say what I want them too, right? So there is alot of off topic debat going on and there will be no winner today, wether because of my faith or because of the finality of death one day each of us will know the answers we look for, and everyone has a right to their own beliefs, I can end by saying that sometimes you just know that you know, I wasn't there the day Jesus was crucified, or with Mary when she went to his empty tomb, but I was there the moment I asked Jesus to come in my life and make me His own. And no one ever said believeing in God would be easy, just worth it. I have a joy in my heart and testimony to share from the grace God has shown me. Today it is my decision to praise the Lord a conscous decision I make every moment of my life, I sin, and I fall short everyday, I don't seek perfection, I seek the best I can do. In my faith I am suppose to outwardly acknowledge Christ, with words and works, at the end of today I will lay down in my bed in my apartment, and have to be accountable for my day, I have told you what I believe, not made judgements on you or what you believe, and I am o.k. with that. It is not my job as a follower of Christ to brain wash you or try and make you think my way is a better way to believe, it is just to show you there is another option, so like my brother before you says, on the day of judgement you cannot point to me and say..."but Jennifer never told me, I never knew"..... By your own religious dogma, anyone who hears "the word" and rejects it goes to Hell. So, by telling non-believers about "the word" and not convincing them that it's true and correct, aren't you condemning them to Hell, via "the word"? |
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not complaining, just stating a fact that not all religious people fall into his category, and my first post said nothing remotely close to a complaint, I just answered your question. As far as I am concerned, I spoke my peace and am done. I think the problems start when people read into others statements, the main question was do you think rapture will end christianity, not do you believe in God the father and Jesus His son, or who can twist more words around for them to say what I want them too, right? So there is alot of off topic debat going on and there will be no winner today, wether because of my faith or because of the finality of death one day each of us will know the answers we look for, and everyone has a right to their own beliefs, I can end by saying that sometimes you just know that you know, I wasn't there the day Jesus was crucified, or with Mary when she went to his empty tomb, but I was there the moment I asked Jesus to come in my life and make me His own. And no one ever said believeing in God would be easy, just worth it. I have a joy in my heart and testimony to share from the grace God has shown me. Today it is my decision to praise the Lord a conscous decision I make every moment of my life, I sin, and I fall short everyday, I don't seek perfection, I seek the best I can do. In my faith I am suppose to outwardly acknowledge Christ, with words and works, at the end of today I will lay down in my bed in my apartment, and have to be accountable for my day, I have told you what I believe, not made judgements on you or what you believe, and I am o.k. with that. It is not my job as a follower of Christ to brain wash you or try and make you think my way is a better way to believe, it is just to show you there is another option, so like my brother before you says, on the day of judgement you cannot point to me and say..."but Jennifer never told me, I never knew"..... By your own religious dogma, anyone who hears "the word" and rejects it goes to Hell. So, by telling non-believers about "the word" and not convincing them that it's true and correct, aren't you condemning them to Hell, via "the word"? No, for it is still their own free will to either believe or not. The person spreading the word can not literally change that. It has to be done willingly by the person it is given to. |
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And that is your choice, at least you know your options. We won't all choose the same side, that is the wonderfulness of free will.
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funches
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Thu 10/14/10 10:54 AM
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i think the muslims are doing that now well as they say.. God does go by many names so I guess Allah as God would explain why Christians would disappear in The Rapture |
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No, it is my job to plant a seed, nothing more nothing less...and hell is a choice, as long as you have breath in your body you have a choice to believe or not. If Jesus himself could walk the earth and not convince everyone He met to become a Christian how could I?
Funches...I am a woman and with that comes a level of complaining no matter what I do, I try and avoid it as much as possible, yet it does seep out now and again, my bad... |
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And I just wanna throw out there that not all people who profess faith in God are Christians...that is where our human discernment comes into play...sometimes if it looks like a rock, and smells like a rock, if you drop it it is still a piece of hardened horse ****....and maybe it might smell a little, but you get my point...
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No, it is my job to plant a seed, nothing more nothing less...and hell is a choice, as long as you have breath in your body you have a choice to believe or not. If Jesus himself could walk the earth and not convince everyone He met to become a Christian how could I? Funches...I am a woman and with that comes a level of complaining no matter what I do, I try and avoid it as much as possible, yet it does seep out now and again, my bad... Jenninqc...as people keep mentioning Hitler also has roots in Christianity so perhaps just like you he felt that it was his job to plant a seed of Christianity .......and that is the thing about beliefs....the best ones are keep silent and not acted upon and clearly not posted in a forum...because once you do express a belief or act upon a belief or post a belief you at that point in time will undoubtedly disrespect the belief of another |
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And I just wanna throw out there that not all people who profess faith in God are Christians...that is where our human discernment comes into play...sometimes if it looks like a rock, and smells like a rock, if you drop it it is still a piece of hardened horse ****....and maybe it might smell a little, but you get my point... nope not really...you're speaking in parables....aren't parables why there are some many different sects of christians because they are confused as to what Jesus spoke ..so come on don't tell us what came out of the horses's ***...let's hear what came out of the horse's mouth in other words....WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT WILLIS? |
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I totally agree that the forum may not be the place for a belief debate, because of the fact that I cannot express my typing as I would in real life, but I do not understand why you say that the best ones are kept silent and not acted upon. I find alot of things disrespectful in the world today, if I have disrespected someone by my comments today I am sorry, totally not my intention, but in an open forum with beliefs and ideas exchanging in a civil manner we all will not agree.
Roots in Christianity and Hitler don't really fit here, do they? I mean we can pick out people of all religions and see the odd things they believed. Hitler wanted to erase the populous and make a race of "superior" people. But he had a hint of what I would call "insanity" mixed in there as well, I don't think killing is an answer to anything personally. I think we have strayed far from your original post, I think I have let you know where I stand and hopefully as you read my posts and get a feel for my personality you will get a better idea of who I am. I agree to disagree with you on this topic and appreciate and respect the ideas we have exchanged, it is nice to be able to discuss things with adults when I am in the midst of so many children all the time, thanks...Jennifer |
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And I just wanna throw out there that not all people who profess faith in God are Christians...that is where our human discernment comes into play...sometimes if it looks like a rock, and smells like a rock, if you drop it it is still a piece of hardened horse ****....and maybe it might smell a little, but you get my point... nope not really...you're speaking in parables....aren't parables why there are some many different sects of christians because they are confused as to what Jesus spoke ..so come on don't tell us what came out of the horses's ***...let's hear what came out of the horse's mouth in other words....WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT WILLIS? Just because people say they are christians or cathlic, or anything else for that matter, doesn't mean they are. I reread your question, and thought for a moment you were asking about christians, the followers and not christianity as a whole. Because when the rapture comes "christians" will be gone, but not all claims form people believing they are will be. I can say I am a rich beautiful heiress, but it doesn't make me one... |
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not complaining, just stating a fact that not all religious people fall into his category, and my first post said nothing remotely close to a complaint, I just answered your question. As far as I am concerned, I spoke my peace and am done. I think the problems start when people read into others statements, the main question was do you think rapture will end christianity, not do you believe in God the father and Jesus His son, or who can twist more words around for them to say what I want them too, right? So there is alot of off topic debat going on and there will be no winner today, wether because of my faith or because of the finality of death one day each of us will know the answers we look for, and everyone has a right to their own beliefs, I can end by saying that sometimes you just know that you know, I wasn't there the day Jesus was crucified, or with Mary when she went to his empty tomb, but I was there the moment I asked Jesus to come in my life and make me His own. And no one ever said believeing in God would be easy, just worth it. I have a joy in my heart and testimony to share from the grace God has shown me. Today it is my decision to praise the Lord a conscous decision I make every moment of my life, I sin, and I fall short everyday, I don't seek perfection, I seek the best I can do. In my faith I am suppose to outwardly acknowledge Christ, with words and works, at the end of today I will lay down in my bed in my apartment, and have to be accountable for my day, I have told you what I believe, not made judgements on you or what you believe, and I am o.k. with that. It is not my job as a follower of Christ to brain wash you or try and make you think my way is a better way to believe, it is just to show you there is another option, so like my brother before you says, on the day of judgement you cannot point to me and say..."but Jennifer never told me, I never knew"..... By your own religious dogma, anyone who hears "the word" and rejects it goes to Hell. So, by telling non-believers about "the word" and not convincing them that it's true and correct, aren't you condemning them to Hell, via "the word"? No, for it is still their own free will to either believe or not. The person spreading the word can not literally change that. It has to be done willingly by the person it is given to. Christians make up about a quarter of the earths population... so the other three quarters is going to hell? the Buddhist, the Jews, Islam, every other religion?...they think that Christians are going to hell... |
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I totally agree that the forum may not be the place for a belief debate, because of the fact that I cannot express my typing as I would in real life, but I do not understand why you say that the best ones are kept silent and not acted upon. I find alot of things disrespectful in the world today, if I have disrespected someone by my comments today I am sorry, totally not my intention, but in an open forum with beliefs and ideas exchanging in a civil manner we all will not agree. Roots in Christianity and Hitler don't really fit here, do they? I mean we can pick out people of all religions and see the odd things they believed. Hitler wanted to erase the populous and make a race of "superior" people. But he had a hint of what I would call "insanity" mixed in there as well, I don't think killing is an answer to anything personally. I think we have strayed far from your original post, I think I have let you know where I stand and hopefully as you read my posts and get a feel for my personality you will get a better idea of who I am. I agree to disagree with you on this topic and appreciate and respect the ideas we have exchanged, it is nice to be able to discuss things with adults when I am in the midst of so many children all the time, thanks...Jennifer the fact that hitler had roots in christianity is why it's not off topic and the fact that you suggested that he may have been insane is exactly why it is on topic because it would explain the need for the Rapture to get rid of the way some Christians think but in your post you claim that it was your job to plant a seed and to plant a seed you must first dig up dirt and that is what I meant by a good belief is one that is not spoken or acted upon but use as a way to make an individual content within themself... a forum is a good place to debate beliefs as an exchange of information but it's no need to respect the belief because any belief no matter what it is must be be debated to the fullest ...because as hitler proved...it only takes one belief to destroy the world |
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