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Topic: Will The Rapture rid the Earth of Christianity
Dragoness's photo
Tue 10/12/10 07:08 PM
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KerryO's photo
Tue 10/12/10 07:15 PM


As for my trying to convert Believers? Nope, I'm only telling anyone why *I* believe or don't believe they way I do, and I let it up to them to make up their own minds. Whatever they decide is cool with me.

-Kerry O.


Same here.

Many of my posts are in response to Cowboy's constant evangelism. Cowboy has confessed that he is indeed evangelizing. He's stated quite a few times that he's trying to bring people to God so they can receive the give of eternal life. Evangelism is his goal.



Yeah, and this why I have a soft spot in my heart for the Quakers around The City of Brotherly Love, Philadelphia. They tell you to seek the 'Inner Light' in a soft-spoken fashion that befits a group who IMHO has earned the right to call themselves the Religious Society of Friends.

They don't try to creep you out, bully you or give you the smarmy two-step. I guess that is what comes of having been persecuted and marginalized throughout their history by other sects of Christianity. Always the Good Samaritans, they open the doors of their shrines to host such diverse groups as PFLAG.

-Kerry O.

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Tue 10/12/10 07:16 PM
Edited by RKISIT on Tue 10/12/10 07:17 PM




Doesn't say our father will kill anyone. Give me one verse that says our father "kills" or "murders" someone. The ONLY way our father kills anyone is at judgement, and that death is from not having received the gift of eternal life.


And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed. Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died. (Exodus 12:29-30 NLT)




First of all this is from old testament, in those days people were judged on earth for their sins. The only reward for sin is death. And we are speaking of the rapture which is yet to come.
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Exodus 12:12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD.
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As you can see it was from a judgement of their wrong doings. God didn't just do this out of spite. And also, sins people committed in the time before Jesus walked the earth were passed down generation to generation. As in if i was to have sinned, that sin would carry on to my children and so forth. And again, the only reward for sin is death and here you can see it was their judgement to be killed for their wrong doings.
so you were wrong....
yeah he is you can rationalize it till your blue in the face but its still killing and murder,it has the word killed in it,duh

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 10/12/10 08:10 PM


What exactly has been proven my friend? And what evidence do you have to show as such? Nothing in the bible has been "proven" false. If someone doesn't believe in what it says doesn't declare it to be false.


Sure it has.

Geologists have shown that the worldwide flood claimed in the Bible could not have possibly even taken place as depicted in the Bible. It just isn't physically possible because had such an event occurred the evidence for it would be clear. And it just doesn't exist. It never happened.

Also, the whole entire biblical myth is based on that totally false idea that mankind brought imperfection and death into the world. We know now that this is clearly false. The universe itself has shown to us that death and imperfections have always existed long before mankind ever arrived on the scene.

The the very foundational premise of the biblical story has been verified to be a outright lie.

The biblical myth has indeed been proven to be every bit as false as Greek Mythology. There's no question about it. Only people who fail to understand or accept the knowledge that we have gained from the universe itself continue to cling to the delusion that these horrible immoral stories represent the words and actions of some sort of jealous egotistical God.



We now know, of course, that the earth has plenty of water to launch a global flood. It has been calculated that if the earth's surface were completely flat, with no high mountains and no deep ocean basins, that water would cover the earth to a depth of about 8,000 feet. But is there enough water to cover a 29,035 foot mountain?

The key is to remember that the Flood didn't have to cover the present Earth, but it did have to cover the pre-Flood Earth, and the Bible teaches that the Flood fully restructured the earth. "The world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished" (II Peter 3:6). It is gone forever. The earth of today was radically altered by that global event.

That Flood accomplished abundant geologic work. Eroding sediments here, redepositing them there, pushing up continents, elevating plateaus, denuding terrains, etc., so that the earth today is quite different from before. Today even mountain ranges rise high above the sea.

GummiBear's photo
Tue 10/12/10 08:12 PM
Edited by GummiBear on Tue 10/12/10 08:18 PM


You know what I find so interesting? For the most part, it is the same group of "nonbelievers" posting questions and thoughts on Christianity and its principles, in an attempt to "dissuade" us believers from our faith or "prove us wrong".

I wonder why you "nonbelivers" make this your goal. Perhaps it is because, deep down under the surface, you are all seeking to learn the truth about God because something in your lives is lacking. Because you are curious about Him and wonder why we can believe something that seems so impossible.

Ultimately, I think it's because you're struggling with things in your personal life and are seeking guidance and truth. My heart goes out to you all! How difficult it must be to be worried about your impending futures and so much more afraid to even admit it! I will pray for your guidance and understanding of God's truth and not the world's skewed perception of truth!




Well, you're entitled to your opinion, but since you can't read minds, you really can't know.

I've been through a few acute episodes of a serious illness that usually kills the sufferer, one of which gave me a near-death experience. When I was young, I used to have anxiety attacks so severe I sought treatment.

Since my illnesses and concommitant near-death experiences, I've enjoyed a peace I've never known before. I now KNOW there are worse things than dying. Although I wouldn't want to make a habit of it, I pretty calmly walked into surgery at John Hopkins about this time of the year six years ago and beat the odds.

Professionally, I'm at the top of my game, and I no longer feel a need to get into bad relationships just to avoid being alone. (Because you know what? We ALL die alone-- it's a very personal thing.) I live a pretty busy and full life and I have pretty much most of what I want and want what I have.

So, you're wrong. And please spare me your pity. Give it and your prayers to the kids whom your God gave terminal illnesses to without also giving them the power to understand.

As for my trying to convert Believers? Nope, I'm only telling anyone why *I* believe or don't believe they way I do, and I let it up to them to make up their own minds. Whatever they decide is cool with me.

-Kerry O.



Don't you understand why there are terminal illnesses and bad things in this world, because of sin, Sweetie. Perhaps those folks don't understand why they are suffering. I have no idea why some people suffer more than others on Earth. I do know that God has a grand plan in it all. I cannot make any of you see or understand that, but I know it exists nonetheless.

GummiBear's photo
Tue 10/12/10 08:15 PM
Edited by GummiBear on Tue 10/12/10 08:20 PM


You know what I find so interesting? For the most part, it is the same group of "nonbelievers" posting questions and thoughts on Christianity and its principles, in an attempt to "dissuade" us believers from our faith or "prove us wrong".

I wonder why you "nonbelivers" make this your goal. Perhaps it is because, deep down under the surface, you are all seeking to learn the truth about God because something in your lives is lacking. Because you are curious about Him and wonder why we can believe something that seems so impossible.

Ultimately, I think it's because you're struggling with things in your personal life and are seeking guidance and truth. My heart goes out to you all! How difficult it must be to be worried about your impending futures and so much more afraid to even admit it! I will pray for your guidance and understanding of God's truth and not the world's skewed perception of truth!


Oh please. You can't be serious.

The very simple fact of the matter is that Christianity is a highly proselytizing religion.

It's the Christians who are constantly trying to argue with everyone that the Bible is the "Word of God".



If Christianity wasn't such an ignorant and belligerent religion in he first place it wouldn't find itself in such a 'defensive' position.

I have no sympathy for any religion that is so arrogant that it insults everyone who refuses to believe in it.

When it comes to Christianity who's truly casting the FIRST stone?

Answer HONESTLY, if you can. flowerforyou




From your argument, it sounds as if you have encountered a person who has tried to force you into Christianity and if so, I am sorry. Nobody should ever take that approach to leading someone to truth. I would like to ask though, why is it you assume that all Christians are like the person you consider an attacker? We are all not the same person and Christianity as a whole did NOT do that to you, or anyone else. I am sure there are some over-zealous preachers and such out there, but you are judging all of us by these few people. I am not casting any stones. I am just saying that your belief system, however you acquired it, has misled you in the wrong direction.


On a side note, what a sad and disturbing photo attempting humor.

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 10/12/10 08:20 PM

The key is to remember that the Flood didn't have to cover the present Earth, but it did have to cover the pre-Flood Earth, and the Bible teaches that the Flood fully restructured the earth. "The world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished" (II Peter 3:6). It is gone forever. The earth of today was radically altered by that global event.


Well, if the Bible teaches that, then it's clearly false. Because geneticists have traced the evolution of mankind out of Africa and the entire story is told in the fossil records with no sign or evidence of any flood, especially one that would have been so profound that it would have fully restructured the Earth.

So if the Bible teaches what you claim, then you've just added to the list of why it cannot possibly be true.

All you seem to be doing it revealing just how ignorant you are of what our scientists actually know about the history of our planet.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Tue 10/12/10 08:23 PM



You know what I find so interesting? For the most part, it is the same group of "nonbelievers" posting questions and thoughts on Christianity and its principles, in an attempt to "dissuade" us believers from our faith or "prove us wrong".

I wonder why you "nonbelivers" make this your goal. Perhaps it is because, deep down under the surface, you are all seeking to learn the truth about God because something in your lives is lacking. Because you are curious about Him and wonder why we can believe something that seems so impossible.

Ultimately, I think it's because you're struggling with things in your personal life and are seeking guidance and truth. My heart goes out to you all! How difficult it must be to be worried about your impending futures and so much more afraid to even admit it! I will pray for your guidance and understanding of God's truth and not the world's skewed perception of truth!


Oh please. You can't be serious.

The very simple fact of the matter is that Christianity is a highly proselytizing religion.

It's the Christians who are constantly trying to argue with everyone that the Bible is the "Word of God".



If Christianity wasn't such an ignorant and belligerent religion in he first place it wouldn't find itself in such a 'defensive' position.

I have no sympathy for any religion that is so arrogant that it insults everyone who refuses to believe in it.

When it comes to Christianity who's truly casting the FIRST stone?

Answer HONESTLY, if you can. flowerforyou




From your argument, it sounds as if you have encountered a person who has tried to force you into Christianity and if so, I am sorry. Nobody should ever take that approach to leading someone to truth. I would like to ask though, why is it you assume that all Christians are like the person you consider an attacker? We are all not the same person and Christianity as a whole did NOT do that to you, or anyone else. I am sure there are some over-zealous preachers and such out there, but you are judging all of us by these few people. I am not casting any stones. I am just saying that your belief system, however you acquired it, has misled you in the wrong direction.


On a side note, what a sad and disturbing photo attempting humor.






I wonder if this site would tolerate a Believer posting a Homosexual taking a Big Stick and banging it over a Believers head.


I BET NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shalom....Miles

GummiBear's photo
Tue 10/12/10 08:24 PM


The key is to remember that the Flood didn't have to cover the present Earth, but it did have to cover the pre-Flood Earth, and the Bible teaches that the Flood fully restructured the earth. "The world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished" (II Peter 3:6). It is gone forever. The earth of today was radically altered by that global event.


Well, if the Bible teaches that, then it's clearly false. Because geneticists have traced the evolution of mankind out of Africa and the entire story is told in the fossil records with no sign or evidence of any flood, especially one that would have been so profound that it would have fully restructured the Earth.

So if the Bible teaches what you claim, then you've just added to the list of why it cannot possibly be true.

All you seem to be doing it revealing just how ignorant you are of what our scientists actually know about the history of our planet.



If you are so convinced that his opinion is "ignorant" or "wrong" then why do you keep arguing it with him? What do you care what he believes? Is it your purpose in life to "rehabilitate" those who don't agree with your point of view? If you are so much "smarter" than the rest of us, then why are you "lowering your standards" to speak with any of us?

Once again, I see it as a cry for knowledge on your part. An inside cry for a sense of understanding what seems so scary to you because you can't just see it or touch, but rather you have to have faith in it.

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Tue 10/12/10 08:31 PM
indeed it seems it would rid the world of many a christian, and jew, and muslim, and white, and black, and on and on and on, for any mortal that die rid the world of itself doth it not?

hitler created a large rapture, of about sim million jews...

the catholic's during the inquisition, many a million...

each war doth rapture a many...

wonder if hitler was of "god" then, since he caused the "soul" of many to be raptured or released from their body?

hum...

the accepted definition taken for oneself, in and for all things read and seen, create the total fate and destiny of oneself, for the definition of self create all of the human motivation within, that create all the thoughts and words and action's of oneself into existence.

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 10/12/10 08:34 PM


The key is to remember that the Flood didn't have to cover the present Earth, but it did have to cover the pre-Flood Earth, and the Bible teaches that the Flood fully restructured the earth. "The world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished" (II Peter 3:6). It is gone forever. The earth of today was radically altered by that global event.


Well, if the Bible teaches that, then it's clearly false. Because geneticists have traced the evolution of mankind out of Africa and the entire story is told in the fossil records with no sign or evidence of any flood, especially one that would have been so profound that it would have fully restructured the Earth.

So if the Bible teaches what you claim, then you've just added to the list of why it cannot possibly be true.

All you seem to be doing it revealing just how ignorant you are of what our scientists actually know about the history of our planet.


Oh but none of the science on that particular thing is set in stone. Which is why they call it the "THEORY" of evolution upon many other "THEORIES". A theory is nothing more then an educated guess my friend.

GummiBear's photo
Tue 10/12/10 08:36 PM



The key is to remember that the Flood didn't have to cover the present Earth, but it did have to cover the pre-Flood Earth, and the Bible teaches that the Flood fully restructured the earth. "The world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished" (II Peter 3:6). It is gone forever. The earth of today was radically altered by that global event.


Well, if the Bible teaches that, then it's clearly false. Because geneticists have traced the evolution of mankind out of Africa and the entire story is told in the fossil records with no sign or evidence of any flood, especially one that would have been so profound that it would have fully restructured the Earth.

So if the Bible teaches what you claim, then you've just added to the list of why it cannot possibly be true.

All you seem to be doing it revealing just how ignorant you are of what our scientists actually know about the history of our planet.


Oh but none of the science on that particular thing is set in stone. Which is why they call it the "THEORY" of evolution upon many other "THEORIES". A theory is nothing more then an educated guess my friend.




YES! Thank you! On a side note, I read that you are evangelizing, I am so glad, it takes a lot of courage to do that! :)

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 10/12/10 08:37 PM

From your argument, it sounds as if you have encountered a person who has tried to force you into Christianity and if so, I am sorry. Nobody should ever take that approach to leading someone to truth. I would like to ask though, why is it you assume that all Christians are like the person you consider an attacker? We are all not the same person and Christianity as a whole did NOT do that to you, or anyone else. I am sure there are some over-zealous preachers and such out there, but you are judging all of us by these few people. I am not casting any stones. I am just saying that your belief system, however you acquired it, has misled you in the wrong direction.


I couldn't care less about what the 'followers' of this mythology think or believe. Why should I care about them? The mythology itself teaches this kind religious bigotry.

I reject the Biblical myth because they are utterly absurd, and clearly false. No more reason is required.

As far as making a religion out of it, I think history speaks for itself. People have clearly been extremely adversely affected by these horrible myths. Just look at the witch burnings that went on for hundreds of years in Europe all because people believe in the superstition that there is a Satan who buys people's souls. whoa

It's clearly a dangerous mythology. In fact, if you back-up and look at the big picture (not just the Christian spin-off), you can see that these Abrahamic mythologies continue to create religious hostilities right up to our present day. You have Jews and Muslims hating each others, and Christians and Muslism hating each other, all in the name of God. whoa

The poor atheists, and other spiritual people who believe in more loving spiritualistic have to live on this planet too. Why should we have to put up with all the Abrahamic religions calling each other names, and making trouble in the name of God. And they even point their fingers at us (us being atheists and non-Abrahamic people), and calling us "heathens" etc.

When is the hatred in the name of Jesus and/or God going to stop?


On a side note, what a sad and disturbing photo attempting humor.


I don't think there's anything funny about it at all. I think it depicts the absolute truth of reality. Christians constantly accuse other people of being "ungodly" for not believing that Jesus is God and that the Bible reprsents the "Word of God", and then they get all irate and offended when the non-believer tears the myth to shreds by pointing out how utterly absurd and ignorant it is.

I don't think the cartoon is funny. It simply portrays the truth of what Christians do. They act like it's an insult to them to disagree with them, all the while they are insulting everyone who they disagree with. whoa

Just shows you how blind and hypocritical they truly are.

Look at you. You just tried to do the very same thing. You just claim that all the non-believers must be in some sort of horrible emotional pain to not believe the ancient Hebrew fables. whoa

Insult the non-believers and then act like you can't understand why they have totally no respect for your views.

GummiBear's photo
Tue 10/12/10 08:43 PM


From your argument, it sounds as if you have encountered a person who has tried to force you into Christianity and if so, I am sorry. Nobody should ever take that approach to leading someone to truth. I would like to ask though, why is it you assume that all Christians are like the person you consider an attacker? We are all not the same person and Christianity as a whole did NOT do that to you, or anyone else. I am sure there are some over-zealous preachers and such out there, but you are judging all of us by these few people. I am not casting any stones. I am just saying that your belief system, however you acquired it, has misled you in the wrong direction.


I couldn't care less about what the 'followers' of this mythology think or believe. Why should I care about them? The mythology itself teaches this kind religious bigotry.

I reject the Biblical myth because they are utterly absurd, and clearly false. No more reason is required.

As far as making a religion out of it, I think history speaks for itself. People have clearly been extremely adversely affected by these horrible myths. Just look at the witch burnings that went on for hundreds of years in Europe all because people believe in the superstition that there is a Satan who buys people's souls. whoa

It's clearly a dangerous mythology. In fact, if you back-up and look at the big picture (not just the Christian spin-off), you can see that these Abrahamic mythologies continue to create religious hostilities right up to our present day. You have Jews and Muslims hating each others, and Christians and Muslism hating each other, all in the name of God. whoa

The poor atheists, and other spiritual people who believe in more loving spiritualistic have to live on this planet too. Why should we have to put up with all the Abrahamic religions calling each other names, and making trouble in the name of God. And they even point their fingers at us (us being atheists and non-Abrahamic people), and calling us "heathens" etc.

When is the hatred in the name of Jesus and/or God going to stop?


On a side note, what a sad and disturbing photo attempting humor.


I don't think there's anything funny about it at all. I think it depicts the absolute truth of reality. Christians constantly accuse other people of being "ungodly" for not believing that Jesus is God and that the Bible reprsents the "Word of God", and then they get all irate and offended when the non-believer tears the myth to shreds by pointing out how utterly absurd and ignorant it is.

I don't think the cartoon is funny. It simply portrays the truth of what Christians do. They act like it's an insult to them to disagree with them, all the while they are insulting everyone who they disagree with. whoa

Just shows you how blind and hypocritical they truly are.

Look at you. You just tried to do the very same thing. You just claim that all the non-believers must be in some sort of horrible emotional pain to not believe the ancient Hebrew fables. whoa

Insult the non-believers and then act like you can't understand why they have totally no respect for your views.




How exactly is believing in Christianity dangerous. Even if it was a myth (and do not misunderstand I am not saying it is because that is untrue) but even if it was, it gives people hope.

I am not insulting you by claiming non-believers are in emotional pain by not believing in God. I am saying that is my thoughts on why you all keep pressing the issues. So now you are saying that my beliefs insult you. Hmmm, well at least you have resorted to telling me in a slightly different way than before.

I'm not trying to force you into believing or say to respect the belief itself. I am saying respect the believer.

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 10/12/10 08:48 PM
Edited by Abracadabra on Tue 10/12/10 08:48 PM

If you are so convinced that his opinion is "ignorant" or "wrong" then why do you keep arguing it with him? What do you care what he believes? Is it your purpose in life to "rehabilitate" those who don't agree with your point of view?


It's a religion discussion forum. If it bothers you to see people discussing religions fables then why are you bothering to read this forum?

Religious proselytizers would love for everyone who makes any sense to just disappear get out of their way so they can brainwash more people. I understand that. But why should I stand by and allow that to happen? I enjoy pointing out the fallacies in this horrible religion.


If you are so much "smarter" than the rest of us, then why are you "lowering your standards" to speak with any of us?


I don't recall ever saying or implying any such thing. But if this is your opinion of me, I thank you for the compliment.

The knowledge of what science actually knows is available to anyone. If you would like to know what genetitists know you too can learn of these things.

In fact, there are good video lectures offered by "The Teaching Company" look them up. You can get video lectures on just about any topic you're interested in.

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 10/12/10 08:48 PM



From your argument, it sounds as if you have encountered a person who has tried to force you into Christianity and if so, I am sorry. Nobody should ever take that approach to leading someone to truth. I would like to ask though, why is it you assume that all Christians are like the person you consider an attacker? We are all not the same person and Christianity as a whole did NOT do that to you, or anyone else. I am sure there are some over-zealous preachers and such out there, but you are judging all of us by these few people. I am not casting any stones. I am just saying that your belief system, however you acquired it, has misled you in the wrong direction.


I couldn't care less about what the 'followers' of this mythology think or believe. Why should I care about them? The mythology itself teaches this kind religious bigotry.

I reject the Biblical myth because they are utterly absurd, and clearly false. No more reason is required.

As far as making a religion out of it, I think history speaks for itself. People have clearly been extremely adversely affected by these horrible myths. Just look at the witch burnings that went on for hundreds of years in Europe all because people believe in the superstition that there is a Satan who buys people's souls. whoa

It's clearly a dangerous mythology. In fact, if you back-up and look at the big picture (not just the Christian spin-off), you can see that these Abrahamic mythologies continue to create religious hostilities right up to our present day. You have Jews and Muslims hating each others, and Christians and Muslism hating each other, all in the name of God. whoa

The poor atheists, and other spiritual people who believe in more loving spiritualistic have to live on this planet too. Why should we have to put up with all the Abrahamic religions calling each other names, and making trouble in the name of God. And they even point their fingers at us (us being atheists and non-Abrahamic people), and calling us "heathens" etc.

When is the hatred in the name of Jesus and/or God going to stop?


On a side note, what a sad and disturbing photo attempting humor.


I don't think there's anything funny about it at all. I think it depicts the absolute truth of reality. Christians constantly accuse other people of being "ungodly" for not believing that Jesus is God and that the Bible reprsents the "Word of God", and then they get all irate and offended when the non-believer tears the myth to shreds by pointing out how utterly absurd and ignorant it is.

I don't think the cartoon is funny. It simply portrays the truth of what Christians do. They act like it's an insult to them to disagree with them, all the while they are insulting everyone who they disagree with. whoa

Just shows you how blind and hypocritical they truly are.

Look at you. You just tried to do the very same thing. You just claim that all the non-believers must be in some sort of horrible emotional pain to not believe the ancient Hebrew fables. whoa

Insult the non-believers and then act like you can't understand why they have totally no respect for your views.




How exactly is believing in Christianity dangerous. Even if it was a myth (and do not misunderstand I am not saying it is because that is untrue) but even if it was, it gives people hope.

I am not insulting you by claiming non-believers are in emotional pain by not believing in God. I am saying that is my thoughts on why you all keep pressing the issues. So now you are saying that my beliefs insult you. Hmmm, well at least you have resorted to telling me in a slightly different way than before.

I'm not trying to force you into believing or say to respect the belief itself. I am saying respect the believer.


Yes I think this particular thing is very peculiar. Atheists tend to get very abrupt in their discussions. Very like offended just because we believe in the heavenly father. Turns into arguments rather then discussion. Which yes some Christians do the same, but what i'm referring to is on the average normal basis.......... I've always wondered why that was. Like in this forum for instance, no one is "forcing" beliefs on anyone. Just merely discussing, yet they still seem to get offended.

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Tue 10/12/10 08:51 PM
it seems it has come to be, that thru self validating definition's of what is read and seen, many have come to dilude themself into thinking that while distaining another human, this be the same as loving them, lol...

is distain equal to love?

do they mean the same thing?

for who that purport to follow this one named jesus of nazereth, can distain another, and make itself believe that it love it's enemy?

the one claimed to be followed as jesus spoke such?

so, any words not following the pattern of speech of words of love, as in love thy enemy, would then indicate a false follower?

or not a follower at all?

perhaps more a follower of what oneself simply wish to believe about itself, being all the evidence provided be opposing to the very essence of what is claimed as fact?

hum...

seems like there be many that need to give themself their own lie detector test, knowing all one doth speak and do, doth create it's fate, NOT WHAT ONE CLAIM TO BELIEVE.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Tue 10/12/10 08:55 PM


The key is to remember that the Flood didn't have to cover the present Earth, but it did have to cover the pre-Flood Earth, and the Bible teaches that the Flood fully restructured the earth. "The world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished" (II Peter 3:6). It is gone forever. The earth of today was radically altered by that global event.


Well, if the Bible teaches that, then it's clearly false. Because geneticists have traced the evolution of mankind out of Africa and the entire story is told in the fossil records with no sign or evidence of any flood, especially one that would have been so profound that it would have fully restructured the Earth.

So if the Bible teaches what you claim, then you've just added to the list of why it cannot possibly be true.

All you seem to be doing it revealing just how ignorant you are of what our scientists actually know about the history of our planet.




Abra i respect what u say but u must be behind on what the scientific community is saying about the shaping of our world.. Read up on what they say now or post what u say to be true.. Blessings....Miles

Milesoftheusa's photo
Tue 10/12/10 08:59 PM



The key is to remember that the Flood didn't have to cover the present Earth, but it did have to cover the pre-Flood Earth, and the Bible teaches that the Flood fully restructured the earth. "The world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished" (II Peter 3:6). It is gone forever. The earth of today was radically altered by that global event.


Well, if the Bible teaches that, then it's clearly false. Because geneticists have traced the evolution of mankind out of Africa and the entire story is told in the fossil records with no sign or evidence of any flood, especially one that would have been so profound that it would have fully restructured the Earth.

So if the Bible teaches what you claim, then you've just added to the list of why it cannot possibly be true.

All you seem to be doing it revealing just how ignorant you are of what our scientists actually know about the history of our planet.




Abra i respect what u say but u must be behind on what the scientific community is saying about the shaping of our world.. Read up on what they say now or post what u say to be true.. Blessings....Miles




Actually science always coming up with a different scenirio of the earths making is proving the world wide flood because it has not changed. Believers have said for almost ever the flood happened and many cultures speak of this massive flood.


Yet science changes thier minds with all thier fancy equipment and such.

They have an agenda and are confused.. Don't ya think?..Miles

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Tue 10/12/10 09:00 PM

it seems it has come to be, that thru self validating definition's of what is read and seen, many have come to dilude themself into thinking that while distaining another human, this be the same as loving them, lol...

is distain equal to love?

do they mean the same thing?

for who that purport to follow this one named jesus of nazereth, can distain another, and make itself believe that it love it's enemy?

the one claimed to be followed as jesus spoke such?

so, any words not following the pattern of speech of words of love, as in love thy enemy, would then indicate a false follower?

or not a follower at all?

perhaps more a follower of what oneself simply wish to believe about itself, being all the evidence provided be opposing to the very essence of what is claimed as fact?

hum...

seems like there be many that need to give themself their own lie detector test, knowing all one doth speak and do, doth create it's fate, NOT WHAT ONE CLAIM TO BELIEVE.


Yes very true. If one is to preach the word they need to live the word. When someone preaches the gospel they need to live by it as well to make a good witness to those that are around. As the saying goes, actions speak louder then words.

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