Shalom Ladylid2012 Hope you had a Great Thankgiving.. Blessings to All...Miles

The question is about the Nephilins that was recorded in Genesis whether they could account for alien beings and spacecraft that seems to be drawn 1000's of years ago in many cultures could this be what people are seeing and experiencing in the modern day UFO sightings.

Just viewpoints what do u think.

The video link i posted is 20 some minutes long and personally I found interesting what they have found and theories they try to explain.

not that me or u may or may not believe it but I am interested in different view points and what they think of the video's view point.


Thier is safety in numbers as thier is wisdom in hearing all sides before we make our own deduction to what all this mmeans.. Blessings...Miles

Watched this today and found it quite interesting thier thoughts and views about UFO's today and Nephilims.

Is it possible this could be what and why we are seeing UFO's now?

Why antient hyrogriphics seem to show UFO's and Aliens?

I do not know. It is a interesting thought of the Why, who and where Aliens are from.

What do u think?..Blessings...Miles


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5841396592020661354&ei=kVUNS5WLHaKAqwLc8JnIBA&q=armageddon#docid=-1054806571822240020

what you must do to be saved?

Thats salvation by WORKS if u MUST do these 6 things..Shalom...Miles

Now Now Abra lets get our facts right. When have I ever said, if u do not believe you are damned?

Did not think so. Quite the oppisite i have shown many places where hell is a misnomer created for fear to keep the people in check.

As the quote u made from the topic about all the BS. I am in total agreement.. You can say what you want or preach or teach. But you can not save anyone. thats putting yourself above the father a trick of Satan to follow his lead.

The scriptures say you will know them by thier love for one another.. This includes total forgiveness, compassion and not afraid to speak out when people are being delt with wrongly no matter how unpopular it is.


The scriptures also say the word is not to be sold.

So when we see anything being sold as if they got a revelation from the father you can bet it is a lie. The Holy Spirit did not inspire that and I am speaking of all these books that are sold millions of them they are not of Yahweh. Plain and simple. Anyone who is condeming another person escecially not of thier own belief system is wrong. period.

Judgement is inside your own house to bring them to see what they are doing is wrong.

Many false prophets many false religions many false teachers and many false Messiah's.

Just as the good Book says. If it were possible the whole world would be decieved. But for the elects sake they are not.

If we will believe that the whole world is going to be decieved then we must look at what we believe with a fine tooth comb and not follow someone because they told us to.

We are to study to shew ourselves approved to have an answer for EVERYONE who may ask us what is the HOPE of your FAITH.

Not just believe and say a simple prayer and u r saved. What a deception what a lie.

We must study for ourselves and then we have the promice of the Holy Spirit will shew us all things with discernment and as the Topic says what the heck is going on. It's prophecy.. He is here or he is over thier he is everywhere which way do we turn.

Turn to the Father Yahweh of Hosts and no one will have problems descerning what is and what is not.. Blessings of Descernment and May Yahweh Give to The Pure at Heart...Shalom...Miles

Why does N and S America look like they used to be connected to Europe and Africa?

Catastrophic Plate Tectonics
The catastrophic plate tectonics model of Austin et al. described in this article begins with a pre-Flood supercontinent surrounded by cold ocean-floor rocks that were denser (heavier) per unit volume than the warm mantle rock beneath.7 To initiate motion, this model requires a sudden trigger large enough to “crack” the ocean floor adjacent to the supercontinent, so that zones of cold, heavy ocean-floor rock start sinking into the upper mantle.

In this model (Figures 3 and 4), as the ocean floor (in the areas of the ocean trenches) sinks into the mantle, it drags the rest of the ocean floor with it, in a conveyor-belt-like fashion. The sinking slabs of cold ocean floor produce stress in the surrounding hot mantle rock. These stresses, in turn, cause the rock to become hotter and more deformable, allowing ocean slabs to sink even faster. The ultimate result is a runaway process that causes the entire pre-Flood ocean floor to sink to the bottom of the mantle in a matter of a few weeks. As the slabs sink (at rates of feet-per-second) down to the mantle/core boundary, enormous amounts of energy are released.8

The rapidly sinking ocean-floor slabs cause large-scale convection currents, producing a circular flow throughout the mantle. The hot mantle rock displaced by these subducting slabs wells up to the mid-ocean rift zones where it melts and forms new ocean floor. Here, the liquid rock vaporizes huge volumes of ocean water to produce a linear curtain of supersonic steam jets along the entire 43,500 mi (70,000 km) of the seafloor rift zones. Perhaps this is what is meant by the “fountains of the great deep” in Genesis 7:11. These supersonic steam jets capture large amounts of water as they “shoot” up through the ocean into the atmosphere. Water is catapulted high above the earth and then falls back to the surface as intense global rain, which is perhaps the source for the “floodgates of heaven” in Genesis 7:11.

As the ocean floor warms during this process, its rock expands, displacing sea water, forcing a dramatic rise in sea level. Ocean water would have swept up onto and over the continental land surfaces, carrying vast quantities of sediments and marine organisms with them to form the thick, fossiliferous sedimentary rock layers we now find blanketing large portions of today’s continents. Rocks like this are magnificently exposed in the Grand Canyon, for example. Slow-and-gradual plate tectonics simply cannot account for such thick, laterally extensive sequences of sedimentary strata containing marine fossils over such vast interior continental areas high above sea level.

I listen to all of including the phone call questions. I do find it interesting he has some very good points about this subject.

I have a hard time believing some of it but it is all basically conjectual anyways.Just opinions. But thanks for posting this i had not heard of this type thinking before. Shalom...Miles

Shalom.

I am a Yahwists. It comes from the respect from the Persian kings like thier Magi priests had for Yahweh which is the name of the Father.


Yahshua is the son which literally means Yahweh is Salvation not Yahshua it comes through him granted to him from his father.


The persians had many dealings with the Israelites and knew thier diety was called Yahweh.

They called the Israelites because of thier great wisdom they had Yahweh's Wisdom.. Meaning Yahweh is where they got thier wisdom from.

I am a Yahwists short for where I get my wisdom from Yahweh.

Hope that did not confuse you.

Many places Yahshua says he is not the father and can do nothing without him. He is the son and he took on his fathers name as we do.

Yah is the poetic for of Yahweh.

When the king james Bible was written they took the liberty in many places of replacing a Y with a J as Hebrew or Greek either one have a J letter or sound. This has greatly confused people as they can not see what the scriptures really say.

So Yah-shua shua would be like a 1st name but they really did not have 2 names back then. The Yah would be like the last name we were given from our father so the son is Yahshua who points to the father.


The scriptures should never of been devided as they were. When all the Apostles and Disciples were alive they did all thier preaching and instructing from what we call the OT..Thier was no NT for over 100 years I believe then it is mostly a collection of writing.


We see all these other books come out that says the evangel of Thomas should be inthier, Hermas,Revelations of Peter. The Shepard.

And many more that just confuses things even more.

This all happened at the Council of Nicea in 325ad.

Constantine the Roman Emperor claimed when he was going to battle greatly out numbered that he saw a cross in the sky that said " By This Sign Conquer" and he won the battle easily and converted.

This cross in battle you can see in all the wars crosses on uniforms, helmets ,swords all saying the same thing by this sign conquer.


Now The Y in many places being changed to a J made a huge difference. Names came about that we do not know where they came from . 2 of them is the father and the son and thier meaning is not good.


We can see easily as almost everyone has said it at one time is Hallelujah.

That is wrong.. The Hallelu means Praise be.. but to who.. who is Jah?

This is really HalleluYah meaning Praise be to Yahweh.

The prophets had the poetic names given them and has been purposely hidden.

IsaYah

JeremYah

ZecherYah

And even who must come 1st Elijah whay does it mean.

EliYah means my El is Yahweh.. That is the message that is coming back who Yahweh is.

Went alittle far but i am trying to give you alittle bit where I am coming from.

With all these books floating around that some seems to have been recorded as being in the cannon before 325 ad what do we use as a measuring stick for truth.

Yahweh says all things agree. The OT through the influx of saying it was not needed has been left alone even the Dead sea scrolls attest to the Book of IsaYah word for word.


The NT what is good for sound doctrine will agree with the OT. If not it is not from Yahweh.

Yahweh did not say he made a mistake he said because of the people Yahshua came to be the perfect Lamb of Yahweh.

Yahweh grants to his son all things but Yahweh is greater. Yahshua is not Yahweh.

I do not even see how this got to be when he says over and over I am the son I do my fathers will. I can do nothing with out him.


I am happy to explain where I am coming from because the EliYah message is what I hope is being seen.. Blessings of Showers...Miles

The scriptures for those who believe should be plain here..Blessings of Shalom...Miles

Matt 6:14-15

14 "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
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Heb 8:12
12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more."
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Matt 5:46-6:1
6 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47 And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so? 48 Therefore you shall be perfect , just as your Father in heaven is perfect .


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A couple of quick things Yahshua said he could call 12 legions of Angels down if he wanted.

This was faith that Yahweh would give them to him not that he had the power on his own just like He created the Earth through Yahweh he could not by himself.


Yahshua is not Yahweh.. Hear oh Israel Yahweh is one.


2nd Yahshua did not say we would not do greater things than him. Then I guess we better cross these verses out of the bible as we have the Torah.


John 14:12-14

"Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and GREATER WORKS THAN THESE HE WILL DO, because I go to My Father. 13 And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If you ask anything in My name, I will do it.
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So we have a couple of problems here We can do greater works than Yahshua and we can also call 12 Legions of Angels down to defend us if needed.


I stand on what scripture says and no one can deny the words of Yahweh....Blessings...Miles


3 if Yahshua raised himself from the dead then he was never dead because the word says the Dead know nothing



John 14:27-28
28 You have heard Me say to you, 'I am going away and coming back to you.' If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said, 'I am going to the Father,' for My Father is greater than I.
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The Perversion is when we refuse Yahshua as our example.

we are given grace through hi a pardon but when pardoned we don't go back and do the same thing again.

Pentecost they were keeping which is part of the law yet the other feast we prefer pagan ritual. Is this not true?

Still nothing about Paul sacraficing and the disciples even said Paul was upright and up holds the law of Yahweh.

The law that was nailed and was against us is the law of man. The extras added to the word not Yahweh's law.

We are told by john it is how we know what sin is.

We reject the law as Satan/Helel rejects the law and has decieved the whole world.


You are dancing around what paul did in Acts 21 it is clear it was the law of the ending of a Nazorite vow in Num 6.


Yahweh can not say he changes not then say the law is done away but then is brought back in force in the millineum.


We are not justified by the law but we do not throw it out either the Aposled didn't.


After Yahshua was put in the tomb we read of them keeping the feast of unleavened bread.


Yahshua had to wave the wave shief as our High Priest in the Holy of Holies as prescribed by the law and he did. He had to be pure to do this.. They could not touch him before he rose and did the Waving of the wave shief.


All the Law and sacrafices are prophecie more than any where else in the scriptures.

Yahshua amplified the law not fullfilled in that it is not to be kept.


The Masters Prayer what do you think it really is? Just something we say or try to baase prayers on?

It is Isa 58


Way more than you can ever know rejecting the law.

The same thing is happening today that was going on when Yahshua came. Adding to the scriptures.. Rev warns about that.


Do you believe Isa 66 is going to happen?

A final thought since you can not explain why Paul sacraficed in Acts 21 is.

What does JC mean? Have you ever studied its meaning?


or what does j-hovah mean. You might be quite suprised if you will seriously look at it.

You have tons of knowledge but what does Yahweh do to confide the wise? Blessings of Knowledge and May Yahweh have us Rightfully Divide his word...Shalom....Miles

alot of words to get around the fact that Paul kept the Law. All the disciples did.

Peter kept Lev 11.

All the commandments were kept.

All the feast days were kept.

Also if it was 60 miles to Jerusalem it was not Pentecost.

Paul was arrested for what he did in Acts 21 and he pleaded that he was a Roman citizen and this is what got him to Rome to continue his ministry.

When he was out at sea he realized he had missed Pentecost and was very upset about it.

Pauls writings it is said were hard to understand or words. This is why he spoke that he would rather speak plainly than in an unknown tongue.

He was so intelligent and spirit filled he went to deep for the people to understand many times.

The mysteries he understood but it was hard for him to put it in simpler words.

Paul did not speak in acts 21 for thier was no need he agreed perfectly.

Dancing around Acts 21 is all you have done. It is like acts 10 people say see Peter did not eat clean food when it had nothing to do with food but men acts 10 and 11 both say this.Quit trying to twist the scriptures to your traditions.


Yahweh is the same Today yesterday and tommorrow. We see in Zech 14 the Feast of Tabernacles being done. Yahweh has not taken a time period and through out the law of Yahweh for a couple of thousand years and then brings it back.

I am Yahweh I do change not. Yahshua said he brought nothing new. Why can't we accept this?

Why do we insisted on practising Pagan Customs and call them Holy?

Do you really think Yahweh is pleased with mans doings changing his words as the end of the book speaks of?


Traditition Tradititon traditition is what we have today the same as when Yahshua was here and he slammed them for it.

Thier laws the leaders who had added to the law was the Law that was against us. Not Yahweh's law.


Yahshua's death he took the curse of the law on himself which was/is the sins of the world and we were granted a pardon of Grace.

Once you are pardoned if you go back into sinning then Hebrews 11 comes into effect that thier is no more sacrafice for sin.

Believe the word not traditition because then you become a pharasees that Yahshua had no part of and this is the path of religion.

He will have no part of it.

No field of study do you learn the basics then when you go onto a higher degree of study do you then say my basics now are of no use.

No the basics is your foundation and that foundation is the cornerstone Yahshua our Messiah who was the I Am plain and simple.

Follow Yahweh not the world...Blessings of Shalom.....Miles

He was in the likeness of Yahweh the Father but was not him. He even said many times he does nothing that his father does not instruct him to, He was Human not omnipotent Blessings...Miles

I see it often that Paul said to do away with the law,. Even though he was Yahshua chosen Vessel.

If Paul did this then why does he sacrafice in acts 21 as prescribed in Numbers 6? Shalom...Miles


Acts 21:20-27
20 And when they heard it, they glorified Yahweh. And they said to him, "You see, brother, how many myriads of Jews there are who have believed, and they are all zealous for the law; 21 but they have been informed about you that you teach all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children nor to walk according to the customs. 22 What then? The assembly must certainly meet, for they will hear that you have come. 23 Therefore do what we tell you: We have four men who have taken a vow. 24 Take them and be purified with them, and pay their expenses so that they may shave their heads, and that all may know that those things of which they were informed concerning you are nothing, but that you yourself also walk orderly and keep the law. 25 But concerning the Gentiles who believe, we have written and decided that they should observe no such thing, except that they should keep themselves from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality."

26 Arrested in the Temple


Then Paul took the men, and the next day, having been purified with them, entered the temple to announce the expiration of the days of purification, at which time an offering should be made for each one of them.

27 Now when the seven days were almost ended, the Jews from Asia, seeing him in the temple, stirred up the whole crowd and laid hands on him,
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Num 6:9-21

9'And if anyone dies very suddenly beside him, and he defiles his consecrated head, then he shall shave his head on the day of his cleansing; on the seventh day he shall shave it. 10 Then on the eighth day he shall bring two turtledoves or two young pigeons to the priest, to the door of the tabernacle of meeting; 11 and the priest shall offer one as a sin offering and the other as a burnt offering, and make atonement for him, because he sinned in regard to the corpse; and he shall sanctify his head that same day. 12 He shall consecrate to Yahweh the days of his separation, and bring a male lamb in its first year as a trespass offering; but the former days shall be lost, because his separation was defiled.

13'Now this is the law of the Nazirite: When the days of his separation are fulfilled, he shall be brought to the door of the tabernacle of meeting. 14 And he shall present his offering to the Lord: one male lamb in its first year without blemish as a burnt offering, one ewe lamb in its first year without blemish as a sin offering, one ram without blemish as a peace offering, 15 a basket of unleavened bread, cakes of fine flour mixed with oil, unleavened wafers anointed with oil, and their grain offering with their drink offerings.

16'Then the priest shall bring them before Yahweh and offer his sin offering and his burnt offering; 17 and he shall offer the ram as a sacrifice of a peace offering to Yahweh, with the basket of unleavened bread; the priest shall also offer its grain offering and its drink offering. 18 Then the Nazirite shall shave his consecrated head at the door of the tabernacle of meeting, and shall take the hair from his consecrated head and put it on the fire which is under the sacrifice of the peace offering.

19'And the priest shall take the boiled shoulder of the ram, one unleavened cake from the basket, and one unleavened wafer, and put them upon the hands of the Nazirite after he has shaved his consecrated hair, 20 and the priest shall wave them as a wave offering before Yahweh; they are holy for the priest, together with the breast of the wave offering and the thigh of the heave offering. After that the Nazirite may drink wine.'

21 "This is the law of the Nazirite who vows to Yahweh the offering for his separation, and besides that, whatever else his hand is able to provide; according to the vow which he takes, so he must do according to the law of his separation."
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Yahshua was called the son of man and thats what he was. He left the heavenly abode and became a human just like any of us.

He felt smelled ate and drank like us.. He had temptation it is said that all men have had and overcame them.

If Yahshua was Elohim on earth then he is not the Messiah as he came as an example and that means with the same attributes as us and capabilities.

He is our example. He had to be sinless to be the sacraficial lamb for us to free us from the Curse of the law. Death.

His death brought on many things besides taking on the sins of the world.

He showed us what true love is and what a true friend is.

He did what no one else could do and that was the keeping of the law perfectly to show us our own sins and how finger pointing needs to stop.

Worry about yourself and how u can help others instead of the curse when you broke the law as everyone has before and since.

This does not do away with the law of Yahweh it Amplifies it for now we have no sacrafice for sin but the fruit of our lips.. Blessings of Shalom...Miles

I would say you need to read what really happened and how we entered WW2. Why we wanted to? Who did we destroy and then rebuild in our shadows for profit.

Who finaced WW2 on both side? Public record. treason yet the family takes contro; of whatever they want.

The Un is a US backed entity but u are right we still do what we want the hell with everyone else.

WMD's Colin Powell stood before the UN ande claimed he had proof when the proof he had had told him Iraq did not have WMD's


So you sound like a loyal American believe what ever Bill O Rielly and Hamnnity says. They are war heroes.

The US was not so worried about the Nazi'z as they was Japan who has become the little USA where the money is with 7 of the richests banks in the world thir in 50 years. Who utterly destroyed them then rebuilt them?

We knew the Jews were being slaughtered but what did we really do about it?

Step in and show false peace when thier is no peace?

Brits gave them a home not us.Even Roosevelt warned in office that thier are men behind the scenes he said then even whos goal was world domination with the elite deciding our fate for us.

I don't just read what my 8th grade History book says.. I look for the Why has something ha[ppened and does it really ad up and make sence.. I am not Jewish just incase anyone might think i am....Shalom...Miles

Mark 16:14-18

Later He appeared to the eleven as they sat at the table; and He rebuked their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they did not believe those who had seen Him after He had risen. 15 And He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues ; 18 they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover."
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Now Yahshua speaks of New Tongues. But he does not speak of a new language. If we are going to take tongues and have as a babling where people fall down are slain in the spirit then we also should be like the snake people and test Yahweh with serpants and poisen.

Isa 66:18-19
8 "For I know their works and their thoughts. It shall be that I will gather all nations and tongues ; and they shall come and see My glory.
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All nations by their tongues. Not a heavenly tongues is not spoken of anywhere.In this Prophecy.


You dodged Isa 28 where it speaks of a tongue and the people are snarled and fall backwards and will be in terror.

What reference do you have of Yahweh’s people ever falling backwards when the Holy Spirit is present?

If you can not what is the Prophecy of Dan that Isa 28 speaks of?

Gen 49:16-18

16 "Dan shall judge his people
As one of the tribes of Israel.
17 Dan shall be a serpent by the way,
A viper by the path,
That bites the horse's heels
So that its rider shall fall backward.
18 I have waited for your salvation, O Yahweh!
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Dan Judges his people he bites at the hoves as a serpent to make the people fall backwards.

Can you find Dan being saved?

Why?

The voice of Yahweh devides the fire. The cloven tongues,.. The dedication of the Temple made with out hands..

Ps 29:5-11

5 The voice of Yahweh breaks the cedars,
Yes, Yahweh splinters the cedars of Lebanon.
6 He makes them also skip like a calf,
Lebanon and Sirion like a young wild ox.
7 The voice of Yahweh divides the flames of fire .

8 The voice of Yahweh shakes the wilderness;
Yahweh shakes the Wilderness of Kadesh.
9 The voice of Yahweh makes the deer give birth,
And strips the forests bare;
And in His temple everyone says, "Glory!"

10 Yahweh sat enthroned at the Flood,
And the Yahweh sits as King forever.
11 Yahweh will give strength to His people;
Yahweh will bless His people with peace.
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Yahweh does this. The speaking of Tongues is for the non believer. It is a show of the great Wisdom of Yahweh not babling and rolling around on the floor.

What examples do we have of this happening?

Luke 8:27-33
27 And when He stepped out on the land, there met Him a certain man from the city who had demons for a long time. And he wore no clothes, nor did he live in a house but in the tombs. 28 When he saw Yahshua, he cried out, fell down before Him, and with a loud voice said,"What have I to do with You, Yahshua, Son of the Most High Elohim? I beg You, do not torment me!" 29 For He had commanded the unclean spirit to come out of the man. For it had often seized him, and he was kept under guard, bound with chains and shackles; and he broke the bonds and was driven by the demon into the wilderness.

30 Yahshua asked him, saying, "What is your name?"

And he said, "Legion ," because many demons had entered him. 31 And they begged Him that He would not command them to go out into the abyss.

32 Now a herd of many swine was feeding there on the mountain. So they begged Him that He would permit them to enter them. And He permitted them. 33 Then the demons went out of the man and entered the swine, and the herd ran violently down the steep place into the lake and drowned.
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Even the demon possessed man fell on his knees when he saw Yahshua not backwards as Isa Prophicied would come.

An unknown tongue is a New Tongue full of the words and wisdom of Yahshua. A totally changed person is who the Spirit lives in The Temple made with out hands.

We talk of this possession as a good thing as when the demons left they were permitted to enter the swine.

Do you honestly think that an Unclean Temple possess the Spirit of Yahweh?

Do you eat pork and other meats that Lev 11 tells us not to?

It is plain to understand that only demons can enter such bodies.


Mal 3:6-7

6 "For I am the Yahweh, I do not change ;
Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob.
7 Yet from the days of your fathers
You have gone away from My ordinances
And have not kept them.
Return to Me, and I will return to you,"
Says Yahweh of hosts.
"But you said,
'In what way shall we return?'
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In what way shall we return? Not by saying Yahweh’s law is not needed that somehow Yahweh in this statement is lieing.

I AM YAHWEH I CHANGE NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Learn from the schoolmaster first the the spirit of Truth will enter you and their will be no doubt.

Read the 3rd commandment closely and reference the words and see if Yahshua did not give us a warning and a Blessing how to know who is who…Blessings Miles

interesting but a few mistakes.

1 the 50 day count does not start at Passover. It starts on the 1st regular sabbath after the Passover. in some years it could start as you say but most it would not. This is why pentecost is always on a sunday as the High Priest at the end of the regular sabbath after the Passover waves the wave sheafs for the people. Yahshua did this when he rose at the end of the sabbath. This is why he could not be touched as he had to be clean as High aPriest in the Heavens then he came back.

I would take another look at Isa 28

Isa 28:9-15

9 "Whom will he teach knowledge?
And whom will he make to understand the message?
Those just weaned from milk?
Those just drawn from the breasts?
10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept,
Line upon line, line upon line,
Here a little, there a little."

11 For with stammering lips and another tongue
He will speak to this people,
12 To whom He said, "This is the rest with which
You may cause the weary to rest,"
And, "This is the refreshing";
Yet they would not hear.
13 But the word of Yahweh was to them,
"Precept upon precept, precept upon precept,
Line upon line, line upon line,
Here a little, there a little,"
That they might go and fall backward, and be broken
And snared and caught.

14 Therefore hear the word of Yahweh, you scornful men,
Who rule this people who are in Jerusalem,
15 Because you have said, "We have made a covenant with death,
And with Sheol we are in agreement.
When the overflowing scourge passes through,
It will not come to us,
For we have made lies our refuge,
And under falsehood we have hidden ourselves."
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Thier is a speaking in tongues but this is not talking about the real thing but an imposter.

Some tale taling signs are said here to see who these imposters are.

1..13 But the word of Yahweh was to them,
"Precept upon precept, precept upon precept,
Line upon line, line upon line,
Here a little, there a little,"
That they might go and fall backward, and be broken
And snared and caught.

Here they are snared in thier own words.

2... Since when does miracles happen where the person recieving the miracle falls backwards. Always forward face down in awe and being humble for what has happened.

That they might go and fall backward, and be broken
And snared and caught

If you read on it warns that these are scornful men who has made a covenent of death.


We see this all the time healings and falling backwards.can this be of Yahweh.

Here a little thier alittle.. the pick and choose religion that satisfies itself.

Know a religion that has sprang up with zeal and if you do not speak in tongues u do not have the spirit. paul spoke about speaking in tongues and was not impressed with what was going on... Check it out thier are many prophecies that we do not want to understand...Blessings...Miles

Very interesting.. Makes alot of sence Blessings of Shalom...Miles

Yes America is Aggressive. They have taken the same role as the Inquisition Martin Luther and Hitler who was Martin Luthers student.

Whether we want to say it or believe it we believe we are right in all matters. We tell other gov. what they can or can not do.

We set up the UN as a police of the world when in reality the UN is a arm of our Gov.

Our Gov lies to the people and kills 100'000 of thousands of Iraqi's and say it is for thier own good. They are not smart enough to know what they want. We are the liberater.

The inquisition did the same thing believe or die.

Martin Luther said Jews were devils and made them a villian that if they worshipped they would be burned to death. He wrote The Lie which Hitler based his extermination of the Jews on making them a villian and people had to turn them in or face Hitlers wrath..

Now the US does the same thing do as we say or face our wrath.

Fine country we have. Shalom...Miles