Topic: guys learn a little bit
needagoodlaugh's photo
Sun 07/15/07 04:24 PM
I'm not in favor of kicking anyone out, Miguel. That's my point. This is a big country with plenty to go around.

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Sun 07/15/07 04:33 PM
thank you u r a good woman and u represent the vast majority of North Americans. The few who pop out thinking otherwise are just a spot of stain, in an inmense silky white sheet.

ArtGurl's photo
Sun 07/15/07 04:34 PM
Globally speaking there is enough ... there is enough land, there is enough food ... we have been fed this garbage that there is lack and that is what creates fear in people. They are afraid of losing their share. That somehow others will take what should be theirs.

I agree needagoodlaugh ... there is enough good to go around. There is enough land. There is enough food. There is enough opportunity. And there is enough money.

If only we stopped believing in us and them and realized that we are all one people. If we had no borders, we would stop fighting over them.

It makes me wonder ... what a different world this would be. One focused on humanity...

needagoodlaugh's photo
Sun 07/15/07 04:36 PM
I hate it though. Thanks for the compliment, Miguel.

AMEN, ArtGurl, AMEN!!!

damnitscloudy's photo
Sun 07/15/07 04:40 PM
Um....theres plenty of issues in this country without 10million more people to complicate it.

Just me tho =X

needagoodlaugh's photo
Sun 07/15/07 04:43 PM
Get enough minds thinking about those issues, who knows what we might accomplish.

damnitscloudy's photo
Sun 07/15/07 04:45 PM
I kinda doubt it. It will be years before gays have rights, people have health care, and such. The more people in this equation the worse its going to get IMO.

needagoodlaugh's photo
Sun 07/15/07 04:48 PM
You may be correct but I don't think kicking people out and wasting resources on tracking those people down are gonna do any good, either. Just me thinking out loud.

creationsfire's photo
Sun 07/15/07 04:49 PM
You say how much will it cost to deport them? If they would mind the laws, we wouldn't have to pay anything.
I never said immigrants weren't welcome! I'm just sayin do the right way and thier wouldn't be this "issue"
Kudos for you in paying for your education, but I'm attendig college as well and there are many more grants available to "minorities" than for citzens. I'm sorry, but here in California, non-whites are the minority. But are not treated so. Can't even get a decent job unless you are bilingual. I'm sorry but I don't believe that is fair. Our country, you should adapt to us, NOT us to you!
I only said keep it fair, even across the board. How much would it cost for others across the world to immigrate? I don't know, but where there is a will there is a way, as Needs has said before.
If someone were to come into your house without your permission and started using your things, eating your food, demanding money and right to be there and then ask how much will it cost to get rid of me when all they had to do was ask first?
That is what illegal's do. They use our counrty then dare us to do something about it, make it cost to enforce the law.

KISS......all are welcome IF they ask first. Become a citizen, take pride in your heritage but be loyal to your country, USA.

damnitscloudy's photo
Sun 07/15/07 04:50 PM
Well lets put them somewhere for a bit until we can get all this straightened out. I hear Canada is looking for people laugh

damnitscloudy's photo
Sun 07/15/07 04:53 PM
I agree Creations, its imposable to get any grant or lone to goto collage if your white here in Kentucky. And my scholarship was taken away from me and given to a Mexican kid who barely spoke English cause they wanted to keep in step with the NAACP.

And the scholarship was for English studies, go figure.

ArtGurl's photo
Sun 07/15/07 04:53 PM
there is a big difference between minoritiy citizens and international students. International student do not usually qualify for student loans, lines of credit, grants or scholarship and like TLW said ...his expenses are triple for the same education.

In post secondary education, it is the international students subsidizing the education of the locals.

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sun 07/15/07 05:10 PM
creationsfire i agree.miguel doesnt get the word "illegal".

creationsfire's photo
Sun 07/15/07 05:10 PM
This country was founded on immigration. They came acrss the Atlantic ocean to do so. Do you really think that if we told them to find a way here and but they must first become a citizen that they wouldn't? All should be welcome, as long as they obey the laws.
If someone came into your house, plopped down in your chair, ate your food, demanded money and sent it back to mexico tax free, then dare you make them leave because it would cost too much to get a lawyer to vacate them from your house??? This is what illegal do to our country, then demand rights without payint thier due.
MIND YOU I SAID ILLEGAL"S!!!! Not those who are legal. Those babies are called anchor babies. Mothers come here on purpous just to give birth, and not pay for it I might ad, so thier kid can be a U.S. citizen. Then they are allowed to stay for the childs sake. I don't know what to so about that, but it aint right, I can say that.
Damn, if people would keep it simple, simplify the immigration laws so it wouldnt be so damned hard to get in, then this would be a non issue!
If illegals would staop barging into our house, but simply knock on the dorr and obey the rules, this would be a non issue.
Yes there is plenty of room. Let them in....just do it the riight way, cuz all those little wages they are getting paid without taxation, and do not tell me they are all paying taxes!!! add up in the long run. Nickle and dimeing us. let them in like wqe did on Eliss Island.....I don't care, but don't barge into my country, use it up and then leave without minding the same rules we do.

Damn it, just keep it fair for everyone. Ok, so dont report them. Find them and ask them if they want to become a citizen. If they do great! Sign them up, but if not, then you better believe something stinks. Make them legal! Saves on everyone. Just folloe the same rules as everyone else because some of your "homeboys" take too much pride in thier country the this one. You live you better act like, think like, learn like and AMERICAN
Come on. Keep It Simple Stupid=KISS

creationsfire's photo
Sun 07/15/07 05:13 PM
Thank you Cuteflowerforyou

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sun 07/15/07 05:21 PM
your welcome flowerforyou

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Sun 07/15/07 05:40 PM
i don't get the word illegal.
and u fail in providing a practical solution.
most of all ur politicians don't support ur position either.
u just gave me the reason citing what happen in california.
if ur politician supported u, there would not be as much preferences for other minorities as the one u mentioned.
The biggest example of my point is Miami, Fl.
It is a an amazing anomaly, overthere they have signs on business' doors saying come in we speak english.
It just makes me wonder, what is really happening and we are not able to see?
I see you guys fighting against something that for me seems eminent.

damnitscloudy's photo
Sun 07/15/07 05:44 PM
We can't rely on politicians tho, because they are greedy, like used car sales man. And any person with new ideas quickly gets booted so there can be more of the same "old ways" people.

creationsfire's photo
Sun 07/15/07 05:54 PM
Exactly Damnit! And I did give a practical soulution. Let them come in as long as they do it legally. keep it simple stupid.....like you said, you all are comeing in anyway, so why not make it legal? If I saw a business that had a sign like that I wouldnt shop there. This America. English is the language here and that should be respected!

creationsfire's photo
Sun 07/15/07 05:56 PM
If we go to south america or mexico, we would have to speak spanish.....they would expect it! Lets go there and put signs saying, we speak english......I don't think so!