Topic: Who's Afraid of 9/11 Conspiracy Theories?
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Sun 11/25/12 03:17 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sun 11/25/12 03:17 PM





Afraid?
Nope,just tired of the Twoofers constant obfuscations!laugh


Then why on earth do you read them?? laugh laugh

It is as if you are afraid that more people will join them in exposing the TRUTH?


which "Truth"?
The one inside the Twoofer's Heads?


The truth that exposes the people behind 9-11 --would be the only truth they are afraid of.... because those people are Israeli Mossad, CIA and FBI factions who are following orders from the Bilderberg NWO club, the Trilateral commission, etc.

That truth.


It's the Jehovah's Witnesses and 7th Day Adventists!

laugh



Directed by the Mouseketeers! laugh

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Sun 11/25/12 03:21 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 11/25/12 03:25 PM


An interesting observation is that the people who are most annoyed by the 9-11 truth movement are also very strong supporters of Israel and Zionism. Perhaps they are worried that Israel's involvement in 9-11, if there is any, will be exposed


That accusation is moronic. "Annoyed' is an extrapolation that lacks any foundation, some of us just love to observe stupidity in all its forms.


Seriously? You are claiming that you love to observe stupidity in all its forms?

That is a very odd hobby.huh



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Sun 11/25/12 03:27 PM



An interesting observation is that the people who are most annoyed by the 9-11 truth movement are also very strong supporters of Israel and Zionism. Perhaps they are worried that Israel's involvement in 9-11, if there is any, will be exposed


That accusation is moronic. "Annoyed' is an extrapolation that lacks any foundation, some of us just love to observe stupidity in all its forms.


Seriously? You are claiming that you love to observe stupidity in all its forms?

That is a very odd hobby.huh


It's not a hobby, it just makes me laugh.

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Sun 11/25/12 04:00 PM
ore and more people from all walks of life and all professions seem to be questioning the “official” narrative of what happened on 9/11. Those who are questioning the events of 9/11 may be moving under the radar of the corporate media from being labeled “conspiracy theorists” to legitimate investigators with legitimate questions and concerns.

A good example is Jesse Ventura’s recent appearance on CNN’s Piers Morgan. Ventura, an ex-navy SEAL and former governor of Minnesota who hosts a program on TruTV called “Conspiracy Theory,” appeared on Morgan’s show last week. After discussing 9/11, Morgan tried to dismiss Ventura and said he has “crackpot” ideas. Ventura then asked the audience, “How many people think I make crackpot points?” Only one audience member acknowledged. He then asked, “How many people think I make sensible points?” Almost the entire audience applauded him. See video here. That segment can be found at 32:10.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7WGMGHNHfw
ww.examiner.com/article/9-11-official-story-doubts-becoming-more-mainstream
Yup the audience cheered Jesse that is pretty much the mood of everyone I know in regards to 911.

I am of th opinion that only shrills and Morons buy into 911 at this point.


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Sun 11/25/12 04:06 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sun 11/25/12 04:12 PM

ore and more people from all walks of life and all professions seem to be questioning the “official” narrative of what happened on 9/11. Those who are questioning the events of 9/11 may be moving under the radar of the corporate media from being labeled “conspiracy theorists” to legitimate investigators with legitimate questions and concerns.

A good example is Jesse Ventura’s recent appearance on CNN’s Piers Morgan. Ventura, an ex-navy SEAL and former governor of Minnesota who hosts a program on TruTV called “Conspiracy Theory,” appeared on Morgan’s show last week. After discussing 9/11, Morgan tried to dismiss Ventura and said he has “crackpot” ideas. Ventura then asked the audience, “How many people think I make crackpot points?” Only one audience member acknowledged. He then asked, “How many people think I make sensible points?” Almost the entire audience applauded him. See video here. That segment can be found at 32:10.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7WGMGHNHfw
ww.examiner.com/article/9-11-official-story-doubts-becoming-more-mainstream
Yup the audience cheered Jesse that is pretty much the mood of everyone I know in regards to 911.

I am of th opinion that only shrills and Morons buy into 911 at this point.




Well, Jesse Ventura has been beaten around the head a bit much and it shows. I'd hardly consider him an authority on anything except possibly, encephalitis, and he attracts like-minded simpletons. Especially in front of an audience that responded to the advertising. You have used this 'argument from popularity' before and it's rather lame to say the least. You're quite fond of logical fallacies aren't you?

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Sun 11/25/12 05:28 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 11/25/12 05:29 PM
I am of the opinion that only shrills and Morons buy into 911 at this point.


I find it hard to believe that anyone actually buys into the official account of 9-11. I think people just like to argue and make fun of others that don't fall into line with the propaganda being peddled.

And I don't find stupidity funny.

I find it stupid.

I don't see anything believable about the official account of the 9-11 attack; particularly the blaming of it onto "Al-Qaeda" and the naming of the "master mind" of 9-11 to be Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

I find it astonishing that anyone would actually believe that.




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Sun 11/25/12 05:44 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 11/25/12 05:53 PM
Well, Jesse Ventura has been beaten around the head a bit much and it shows. I'd hardly consider him an authority on anything


Why do you think everyone has to pass your personal inspection and approval of who is or is not "an authority?" If you want authorities there are hundreds, even thousands of authorities with plenty of credentials. I seriously don't think you are capable of attempting to discredit or criticize every single one of them.

There are enough of them to outnumber any that you could dig up.

I find Jesse Ventura very honest and refreshing. He makes good sense and he speaks clearly, usually making anyone interviewing him look like a moron. He is not one of those lying pretentious politicians that seem to be running this country.

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Twenty-five U.S. Military Officers Challenge Official Account of 9/11

January 14, 2008 – Twenty-five former U.S. military officers have severely criticized the official account of
9/11 and called for a new investigation. They include former commander of U.S. Army Intelligence, Major
General Albert Stubblebine, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense, Col. Ronald D. Ray, two former
staff members of the Director of the National Security Agency; Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, PhD, and Major
John M. Newman, PhD, and many others. They are among the rapidly growing number of military and
intelligence service veterans, scientists, engineers, and architects challenging the government’s story. The
officers’ statements appear below, listed alphabetically.

Read it all: You will have to cut and paste it in:

http://patriotsquestion911.com/Article%20Military%20Officers%20Challenge%20911.pdf

“A lot of these pieces of information, taken together, prove that the official
story, the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash. It’s
impossible,” said Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret).
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With doctoral degrees in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Col.
Bowman served as Director of Advanced Space Programs Development
under Presidents Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter.
“There’s a second group of facts having to do with the cover up,”
continued Col. Bowman. “Taken together these things prove that high
levels of our government don’t want us to know what happened and who’s
responsible. Who gained from 9/11? Who covered up crucial information
about 9/11? And who put out the patently false stories about 9/11 in the
first place? When you take those three things together, I think the case is
pretty clear that it’s highly placed individuals in the administration with all
roads passing through Dick Cheney.



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Sun 11/25/12 05:48 PM
A Pentagon eye-witness and a former member of the staff of the Director
of the National Security Agency, Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S.
Air Force (ret), is a severe critic of the official account of 9/11. A
contributing author to the 2006 book 9/11 and American Empire:
Intellectuals Speak Out, she wrote, “I believe the [9/11] Commission failed
to deeply examine the topic at hand, failed to apply scientific rigor to its
assessment of events leading up to and including 9/11, failed to produce a
believable and unbiased summary of what happened, failed to fully
examine why it happened, and even failed to include a set of unanswered
questions for future research.”
She continued, “It is as a scientist that I have the most trouble with the
official government conspiracy theory, mainly because it does not satisfy
the rules of probability or physics. The collapses of the World Trade
Center buildings clearly violate the laws of probability and physics.”

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Sun 11/25/12 06:22 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sun 11/25/12 06:31 PM
Well, Jesse Ventura has been beaten around the head a bit much and it shows. I'd hardly consider him an authority on anything


Why do you think everyone has to pass your personal inspection and approval of who is or is not "an authority?"


I don't, you're just making **** up again.

If you want authorities there are hundreds, even thousands of authorities with plenty of credentials. I seriously don't think you are capable of attempting to discredit or criticize every single one of them. There are enough of them to outnumber any that you could dig up.


This evasive gesture is rather quaint. Really, I don't care, the world is full of morons, and I'd be more interested in their material than any silly list.

I find Jesse Ventura very honest and refreshing.


I'm sure you do. laugh Actually, that explains a lot.

He makes good sense and he speaks clearly...


laugh

...usually making anyone interviewing him look like a moron.


laugh

He is not one of those lying pretentious politicians that seem to be running this country.


Jesse Ventura knows where his money comes from.



rofl

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Sun 11/25/12 06:26 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sun 11/25/12 06:48 PM

I am of the opinion that only shrills and Morons buy into 911 at this point.


I find it hard to believe that anyone actually buys into the official account of 9-11. I think people just like to argue and make fun of others that don't fall into line with the propaganda being peddled.


I don't buy into the nonsense you peddle on here.

And I don't find stupidity funny. I find it stupid.


You haven't lived. laugh

I don't see anything believable about the official account of the 9-11 attack; particularly the blaming of it onto "Al-Qaeda" and the naming of the "master mind" of 9-11 to be Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

I find it astonishing that anyone would actually believe that.


Yet, you've never offered anything that could be remotely considered 'rational' as an alternative. laugh You're another that is fond of the odd logical fallacy, in this case it's 'arguing from incredulity'. To say you find it hard to believe is just a waste of bytes without offering an alternative that can be substantiated.

I find it 'astonishing' that you spend so much time and effort on claiming that the official story is untrue, and yet you never provide a viable alternative.

What is with that?




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Sun 11/25/12 06:57 PM


ore and more people from all walks of life and all professions seem to be questioning the “official” narrative of what happened on 9/11. Those who are questioning the events of 9/11 may be moving under the radar of the corporate media from being labeled “conspiracy theorists” to legitimate investigators with legitimate questions and concerns.

A good example is Jesse Ventura’s recent appearance on CNN’s Piers Morgan. Ventura, an ex-navy SEAL and former governor of Minnesota who hosts a program on TruTV called “Conspiracy Theory,” appeared on Morgan’s show last week. After discussing 9/11, Morgan tried to dismiss Ventura and said he has “crackpot” ideas. Ventura then asked the audience, “How many people think I make crackpot points?” Only one audience member acknowledged. He then asked, “How many people think I make sensible points?” Almost the entire audience applauded him. See video here. That segment can be found at 32:10.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7WGMGHNHfw
ww.examiner.com/article/9-11-official-story-doubts-becoming-more-mainstream
Yup the audience cheered Jesse that is pretty much the mood of everyone I know in regards to 911.

I am of th opinion that only shrills and Morons buy into 911 at this point.




Well, Jesse Ventura has been beaten around the head a bit much and it shows. I'd hardly consider him an authority on anything except possibly, encephalitis, and he attracts like-minded simpletons. Especially in front of an audience that responded to the advertising. You have used this 'argument from popularity' before and it's rather lame to say the least. You're quite fond of logical fallacies aren't you?
I do not care if it was Ventura or Jerry Springer it is what the audience though that that I find telling go see it for yourself at the link above.

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Sun 11/25/12 07:00 PM



ore and more people from all walks of life and all professions seem to be questioning the “official” narrative of what happened on 9/11. Those who are questioning the events of 9/11 may be moving under the radar of the corporate media from being labeled “conspiracy theorists” to legitimate investigators with legitimate questions and concerns.

A good example is Jesse Ventura’s recent appearance on CNN’s Piers Morgan. Ventura, an ex-navy SEAL and former governor of Minnesota who hosts a program on TruTV called “Conspiracy Theory,” appeared on Morgan’s show last week. After discussing 9/11, Morgan tried to dismiss Ventura and said he has “crackpot” ideas. Ventura then asked the audience, “How many people think I make crackpot points?” Only one audience member acknowledged. He then asked, “How many people think I make sensible points?” Almost the entire audience applauded him. See video here. That segment can be found at 32:10.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7WGMGHNHfw
ww.examiner.com/article/9-11-official-story-doubts-becoming-more-mainstream
Yup the audience cheered Jesse that is pretty much the mood of everyone I know in regards to 911.

I am of th opinion that only shrills and Morons buy into 911 at this point.




Well, Jesse Ventura has been beaten around the head a bit much and it shows. I'd hardly consider him an authority on anything except possibly, encephalitis, and he attracts like-minded simpletons. Especially in front of an audience that responded to the advertising. You have used this 'argument from popularity' before and it's rather lame to say the least. You're quite fond of logical fallacies aren't you?
I do not care if it was Ventura or Jerry Springer it is what the audience though that that I find telling go see it for yourself at the link above.


I did the last time you made this claim. You do realise that the studio audience is made up of individuals who respond to an advertisement? Please, argumentum ad populum is somewhat fatuous.

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Sun 11/25/12 07:06 PM




ore and more people from all walks of life and all professions seem to be questioning the “official” narrative of what happened on 9/11. Those who are questioning the events of 9/11 may be moving under the radar of the corporate media from being labeled “conspiracy theorists” to legitimate investigators with legitimate questions and concerns.

A good example is Jesse Ventura’s recent appearance on CNN’s Piers Morgan. Ventura, an ex-navy SEAL and former governor of Minnesota who hosts a program on TruTV called “Conspiracy Theory,” appeared on Morgan’s show last week. After discussing 9/11, Morgan tried to dismiss Ventura and said he has “crackpot” ideas. Ventura then asked the audience, “How many people think I make crackpot points?” Only one audience member acknowledged. He then asked, “How many people think I make sensible points?” Almost the entire audience applauded him. See video here. That segment can be found at 32:10.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7WGMGHNHfw
ww.examiner.com/article/9-11-official-story-doubts-becoming-more-mainstream
Yup the audience cheered Jesse that is pretty much the mood of everyone I know in regards to 911.

I am of th opinion that only shrills and Morons buy into 911 at this point.




Well, Jesse Ventura has been beaten around the head a bit much and it shows. I'd hardly consider him an authority on anything except possibly, encephalitis, and he attracts like-minded simpletons. Especially in front of an audience that responded to the advertising. You have used this 'argument from popularity' before and it's rather lame to say the least. You're quite fond of logical fallacies aren't you?
I do not care if it was Ventura or Jerry Springer it is what the audience though that that I find telling go see it for yourself at the link above.


I did the last time you made this claim. You do realise that the studio audience is made up of individuals who respond to an advertisement? Please, argumentum ad populum is somewhat fatuous.
Yes that Fox news crowd is loaded with conspiracy types.

laugh laugh laugh

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Sun 11/25/12 07:14 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sun 11/25/12 07:54 PM





ore and more people from all walks of life and all professions seem to be questioning the “official” narrative of what happened on 9/11. Those who are questioning the events of 9/11 may be moving under the radar of the corporate media from being labeled “conspiracy theorists” to legitimate investigators with legitimate questions and concerns.

A good example is Jesse Ventura’s recent appearance on CNN’s Piers Morgan. Ventura, an ex-navy SEAL and former governor of Minnesota who hosts a program on TruTV called “Conspiracy Theory,” appeared on Morgan’s show last week. After discussing 9/11, Morgan tried to dismiss Ventura and said he has “crackpot” ideas. Ventura then asked the audience, “How many people think I make crackpot points?” Only one audience member acknowledged. He then asked, “How many people think I make sensible points?” Almost the entire audience applauded him. See video here. That segment can be found at 32:10.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7WGMGHNHfw
ww.examiner.com/article/9-11-official-story-doubts-becoming-more-mainstream
Yup the audience cheered Jesse that is pretty much the mood of everyone I know in regards to 911.

I am of th opinion that only shrills and Morons buy into 911 at this point.




Well, Jesse Ventura has been beaten around the head a bit much and it shows. I'd hardly consider him an authority on anything except possibly, encephalitis, and he attracts like-minded simpletons. Especially in front of an audience that responded to the advertising. You have used this 'argument from popularity' before and it's rather lame to say the least. You're quite fond of logical fallacies aren't you?
I do not care if it was Ventura or Jerry Springer it is what the audience though that that I find telling go see it for yourself at the link above.


I did the last time you made this claim. You do realise that the studio audience is made up of individuals who respond to an advertisement? Please, argumentum ad populum is somewhat fatuous.
Yes that Fox news crowd is loaded with conspiracy types.

laugh laugh laugh


Oh, come on. Are you trying to tell me that the crowd wasn't stacked with his supporters? Really? Are you that naive? He annouces his appearences! As a wrestler he learned a lot about putting on the 'show'. Nothing has changed.

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Sun 11/25/12 07:30 PM

I don't see anything believable about the official account of the 9-11 attack; particularly the blaming of it onto "Al-Qaeda" and the naming of the "master mind" of 9-11 to be Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

I find it astonishing that anyone would actually believe that.


huh Oh? What would you have people to believe instead, tarot cards?

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Sun 11/25/12 07:54 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 11/25/12 07:56 PM

I find it astonishing that anyone would actually believe that.


Yet, you've never offered anything that could be remotely considered 'rational' as an alternative. You're another that is fond of the odd logical fallacy, in this case it's 'arguing from incredulity'. To say you find it hard to believe is just a waste of bytes without offering an alternative that can be substantiated.

I find it 'astonishing' that you spend so much time and effort on claiming that the official story is untrue, and yet you never provide a viable alternative.

What is with that?


HotRodDeluxe

You have never really stated what you believe either. All you have ever done is poke fun of conspiracy theories. So should I assume that you are a true believer in the official conspiracy theory of 9-11? If so, what about the official story causes you to believe it?

Do you really believe Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is the master mind of 9-11? Do you believe that Arab hijackers and a global terrorist organization called Al-Qaeda is behind it and that they slipped past our military defenses, airport security etc. and our numerous intelligence agencies?

Is that really what you believe?


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Sun 11/25/12 08:00 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sun 11/25/12 08:01 PM

I find it astonishing that anyone would actually believe that.


Yet, you've never offered anything that could be remotely considered 'rational' as an alternative. You're another that is fond of the odd logical fallacy, in this case it's 'arguing from incredulity'. To say you find it hard to believe is just a waste of bytes without offering an alternative that can be substantiated.

I find it 'astonishing' that you spend so much time and effort on claiming that the official story is untrue, and yet you never provide a viable alternative.

What is with that?



You have never really stated what you believe either. All you have ever done is poke fun of conspiracy theories.


That is a lie. I have always supplied documentary evidence where you supply nothing but rants. What a load of BS!

So should I assume that you are a true believer in the official conspiracy theory of 9-11? If so, what about the official story causes you to believe it?


Assumptions are your speciality.

Do you really believe Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is the master mind of 9-11? Do you believe that Arab hijackers and a global terrorist organization called Al-Qaeda is behind it and that they slipped past our military defence and our intelligence agencies? Is that really what you believe?


Ah, one of your trademark 'leading questions'. laugh

I believe that any alternative hypotheses are ridiculous and lack substance, logic and evidence.

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Sun 11/25/12 08:04 PM


I don't see anything believable about the official account of the 9-11 attack; particularly the blaming of it onto "Al-Qaeda" and the naming of the "master mind" of 9-11 to be Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

I find it astonishing that anyone would actually believe that.


huh Oh? What would you have people to believe instead, tarot cards?



I would expect people to ask questions and demand answers. I am very pleased to see that many people have done just that.

Of course some people just want to get on with their lives and forget about it, or are content to believe whatever their political leaders 'would have them believe' and put it out of their minds so they can go about their daily lives of watching sports and going shopping on black Friday like crazed lunatics, and texting their BFF's or posting on twitter and facebook like the mindless morons they are.








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Sun 11/25/12 08:06 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 11/25/12 08:07 PM


I find it astonishing that anyone would actually believe that.


Yet, you've never offered anything that could be remotely considered 'rational' as an alternative. You're another that is fond of the odd logical fallacy, in this case it's 'arguing from incredulity'. To say you find it hard to believe is just a waste of bytes without offering an alternative that can be substantiated.

I find it 'astonishing' that you spend so much time and effort on claiming that the official story is untrue, and yet you never provide a viable alternative.

What is with that?



You have never really stated what you believe either. All you have ever done is poke fun of conspiracy theories.


That is a lie. I have always supplied documentary evidence where you supply nothing but rants. What a load of BS!

So should I assume that you are a true believer in the official conspiracy theory of 9-11? If so, what about the official story causes you to believe it?


Assumptions are your speciality.

Do you really believe Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is the master mind of 9-11? Do you believe that Arab hijackers and a global terrorist organization called Al-Qaeda is behind it and that they slipped past our military defence and our intelligence agencies? Is that really what you believe?


Ah, one of your trademark 'leading questions'. laugh

I believe that any alternative hypotheses are ridiculous and lack substance, logic and evidence.


You have totally avoided my questions. They are DIRECT QUESTIONS.
Do you have an answer? Do you know what you believe?

What do you believe?

Supplying "documentary evidence" is not telling me what you believe.
Anyone can make a documentary. All documentaries are bias.




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Sun 11/25/12 08:09 PM
Do you believe Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is the master mind of 9-11?

YES OR NO

Do you believe that Arab hijackers and a global terrorist organization called Al-Qaeda is behind it?

YES OR NO

IF SO, THEN how did they manage to pull it off and slip past our military defense and our intelligence agencies?