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It's an illegal tax in the first place anyway, the states never officially ratified it, not enough of them anyway. So it's not just theft, it's illegal altogether.  ... quit paying taxes then, and see how illegal it is...
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It's an illegal tax in the first place anyway, the states never officially ratified it, not enough of them anyway. So it's not just theft, it's illegal altogether. ... quit paying taxes then, and see how illegal it is... I haven't paid income tax for years. However I still pay property taxes, and licence fees, and drivers licence fees and sales tax. I think that is quite enough. |
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It's an illegal tax in the first place anyway, the states never officially ratified it, not enough of them anyway. So it's not just theft, it's illegal altogether. ... quit paying taxes then, and see how illegal it is... I haven't paid income tax for years. However I still pay property taxes, and licence fees, and drivers licence fees and sales tax. I think that is quite enough. it'll catch up to ya... they usually give you 3 years, then they start looking |
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It's an illegal tax in the first place anyway, the states never officially ratified it, not enough of them anyway. So it's not just theft, it's illegal altogether. ... quit paying taxes then, and see how illegal it is... The fact is, although the IRS is simply a collection agency for the FED, they do have ways to get your money. They can't put you in jail for not paying your income taxes though. The only reason they got Capone was because he was selling boot leg liquor across the boarder into Canada. There is a law against not paying taxes on business outside of the U.S. You can also get in trouble for filing a false return and telling lies. But if you file honestly, and then just refuse to pay, they can not put you in jail. They may try to take your property, but they cannot put you in jail. The reason is because it is a civil case not a criminal one. |
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Edited by
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Mon 03/25/13 12:31 PM
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It's an illegal tax in the first place anyway, the states never officially ratified it, not enough of them anyway. So it's not just theft, it's illegal altogether. ... quit paying taxes then, and see how illegal it is... I haven't paid income tax for years. However I still pay property taxes, and licence fees, and drivers licence fees and sales tax. I think that is quite enough. it'll catch up to ya... they usually give you 3 years, then they start looking They have bigger fish to fry and no, they will not catch up to me because I have small income and plenty of deductions. I simply don't owe them anything. |
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Edited by
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It's an illegal tax in the first place anyway, the states never officially ratified it, not enough of them anyway. So it's not just theft, it's illegal altogether. ... quit paying taxes then, and see how illegal it is... The fact is, although the IRS is simply a collection agency for the FED, they do have ways to get your money. They can't put you in jail for not paying your income taxes though. The only reason they got Capone was because he was selling boot leg liquor across the boarder into Canada. There is a law against not paying taxes on business outside of the U.S. You can also get in trouble for filing a false return and telling lies. But if you file honestly, and then just refuse to pay, they can not put you in jail. They may try to take your property, but they cannot put you in jail. The reason is because it is a civil case not a criminal one. maybe you should ask wesly snipes, redd foxx, and willie nelson if you are wrong here... the charge for capone was (ahem) TAX EVASION... |
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It's an illegal tax in the first place anyway, the states never officially ratified it, not enough of them anyway. So it's not just theft, it's illegal altogether. ... quit paying taxes then, and see how illegal it is... I haven't paid income tax for years. However I still pay property taxes, and licence fees, and drivers licence fees and sales tax. I think that is quite enough. it'll catch up to ya... they usually give you 3 years, then they start looking The IRS decides to audit Grandpa, and summons him to the IRS office. The auditor was not surprised when Grandpa showed up with his attorney. The auditor said, 'Well, sir, you have an extravagant lifestyle and no full-time employment, which you explain by saying that you win money gambling. I'm not sure the IRS finds that believable.' I'm a great gambler, and I can prove it,' says Grandpa. 'How about a demonstration?' The auditor thinks for a moment and said, 'Okay. Go ahead.'Grandpa says, 'I'll bet you a thousand dollars that I can bite my own eye.' The auditor thinks a moment and says, 'It's a bet.'Grandpa removes his glass eye and bites it. The auditor's jaw drops. Grandpa says, 'Now, I'll bet you two thousand dollars that I can bite my other eye..' Now the auditor can tell Grandpa isn't blind, so he takes the bet. Grandpa removes his dentures and bites his good eye.The stunned auditor now realizes he has wagered and lost three grand, with Grandpa's attorney as a witness. He starts to get nervous. 'Want to go double or nothing?' Grandpa asks. 'I'll bet you six thousand dollars that I can stand on one side of your desk, and pee into that wastebasket on the other side, and never get a drop anywhere in between.' The auditor, twice burned, is cautious now, but he looks carefully and decides there's no way this old guy could possibly manage that stunt, so he agrees again. Grandpa stands beside the desk and unzips his pants, but although he strains mightily, he can't make the stream reach the wastebasket on the other side, so he pretty much urinates all over the auditor's desk. The auditor leaps with joy, realizing that he has just turned a major loss into a huge win. But Grandpa's own attorney moans and puts his head in his hands. 'Are you okay?' the auditor asks. 'Not really,' says the attorney. 'This morning, when Grandpa told me he'd been summoned for an audit, he bet me twenty-five thousand dollars that he could come in here and urinate all over your desk and that you'd be happy about it!' Don't Mess with Old People  
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Edited by
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It's an illegal tax in the first place anyway, the states never officially ratified it, not enough of them anyway. So it's not just theft, it's illegal altogether. ... quit paying taxes then, and see how illegal it is... The fact is, although the IRS is simply a collection agency for the FED, they do have ways to get your money. They can't put you in jail for not paying your income taxes though. The only reason they got Capone was because he was selling boot leg liquor across the boarder into Canada. There is a law against not paying taxes on business outside of the U.S. You can also get in trouble for filing a false return and telling lies. But if you file honestly, and then just refuse to pay, they can not put you in jail. They may try to take your property, but they cannot put you in jail. The reason is because it is a civil case not a criminal one. maybe you should ask wesly snipes, redd foxx, and willie nelson if you are wrong here... the charge for capone was (ahem) TAX EVASION... They did not go to jail for not paying. Tax "evasion" is deliberate. They went for failing to file. That could be construed as tax evasion. If you file, and you owe, and don't pay, they can't put you in jail. They can only try to take your property. It is a civil case. |
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It's an illegal tax in the first place anyway, the states never officially ratified it, not enough of them anyway. So it's not just theft, it's illegal altogether. ... quit paying taxes then, and see how illegal it is... I haven't paid income tax for years. However I still pay property taxes, and licence fees, and drivers licence fees and sales tax. I think that is quite enough. it'll catch up to ya... they usually give you 3 years, then they start looking The IRS decides to audit Grandpa, and summons him to the IRS office. The auditor was not surprised when Grandpa showed up with his attorney. The auditor said, 'Well, sir, you have an extravagant lifestyle and no full-time employment, which you explain by saying that you win money gambling. I'm not sure the IRS finds that believable.' I'm a great gambler, and I can prove it,' says Grandpa. 'How about a demonstration?' The auditor thinks for a moment and said, 'Okay. Go ahead.'Grandpa says, 'I'll bet you a thousand dollars that I can bite my own eye.' The auditor thinks a moment and says, 'It's a bet.'Grandpa removes his glass eye and bites it. The auditor's jaw drops. Grandpa says, 'Now, I'll bet you two thousand dollars that I can bite my other eye..' Now the auditor can tell Grandpa isn't blind, so he takes the bet. Grandpa removes his dentures and bites his good eye.The stunned auditor now realizes he has wagered and lost three grand, with Grandpa's attorney as a witness. He starts to get nervous. 'Want to go double or nothing?' Grandpa asks. 'I'll bet you six thousand dollars that I can stand on one side of your desk, and pee into that wastebasket on the other side, and never get a drop anywhere in between.' The auditor, twice burned, is cautious now, but he looks carefully and decides there's no way this old guy could possibly manage that stunt, so he agrees again. Grandpa stands beside the desk and unzips his pants, but although he strains mightily, he can't make the stream reach the wastebasket on the other side, so he pretty much urinates all over the auditor's desk. The auditor leaps with joy, realizing that he has just turned a major loss into a huge win. But Grandpa's own attorney moans and puts his head in his hands. 'Are you okay?' the auditor asks. 'Not really,' says the attorney. 'This morning, when Grandpa told me he'd been summoned for an audit, he bet me twenty-five thousand dollars that he could come in here and urinate all over your desk and that you'd be happy about it!' Don't Mess with Old People
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Edited by
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The United States operates under a voluntary tax compliance system; however, that doesn't mean that paying your taxes is not required. If your income exceeds $9,350, and you are not self-employed, you must file your taxes, even if you are due a refund. If you are self-employed, you must file your taxes if you earn more than $600. Failure to file your taxes can be punished by both civil and criminal action by the IRS.
Failure to File If you fail to file your federal income taxes, the IRS has several options available to it. Though a criminal charge that could result in jail time is one of those options, the IRS publicly states that it prefers to reserve that route for tax fraud rather than for simply not filing a return. Another option is a monetary penalty. However, as of 2009, the IRS is now enforcing instances of failing to file, by filing the individual returns themselves based on information available to them from a variety of sources. The IRS then calculates the tax based on their derived income figures and sends you the bill. Unfortunately, this method leaves you without any deductions or credits you may be entitled to, and you are required to pay, though you can file an amended return to recoup your deductions and credits. Other Information The IRS, if criminally prosecuting you for failure-to-file, must prove that you willfully did not file your taxes. This is why the IRS reserves criminal prosecution for those that are clearly attempting to hide their income from the government. Most failure-to-file cases are handled with civil penalties, which can include asset seizure, frozen financial accounts and wage garnishment. Read more: Will I Go to Jail If I Don't File My Taxes? http://www.ehow.com/info_7775519_go-jail-dont-file-taxes.html#ixzz2OaCJbHzw |
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It's an illegal tax in the first place anyway, the states never officially ratified it, not enough of them anyway. So it's not just theft, it's illegal altogether. ... quit paying taxes then, and see how illegal it is... The fact is, although the IRS is simply a collection agency for the FED, they do have ways to get your money. They can't put you in jail for not paying your income taxes though. The only reason they got Capone was because he was selling boot leg liquor across the boarder into Canada. There is a law against not paying taxes on business outside of the U.S. You can also get in trouble for filing a false return and telling lies. But if you file honestly, and then just refuse to pay, they can not put you in jail. They may try to take your property, but they cannot put you in jail. The reason is because it is a civil case not a criminal one. maybe you should ask wesly snipes, redd foxx, and willie nelson if you are wrong here... the charge for capone was (ahem) TAX EVASION... They did not go to jail for not paying. Tax "evasion" is deliberate. They went for failing to file. That could be construed as tax evasion. If you file, and you owe, and don't pay, they can't put you in jail. They can only try to take your property. It is a civil case. from wiki: His attempt to bribe and intimidate the potential jurors was discovered by Ness's men, The Untouchables. The venire (jury pool) was switched with one from another case, and Capone was stymied. Following a long trial, on October 17 the jury returned a mixed verdict, finding Capone guilty of five counts of tax evasion and failing to file tax returns[25][26] (the Volstead Act violations were dropped). The judge sentenced him to 11 years imprisonment, at the time the longest tax evasion sentence ever given, along with heavy fines, and liens were filed against his various properties.[27] His appeals of both the conviction and the sentence were denied.[28] One of the Capone properties seized by the federal government was an armored limousine. The limousine was later used to protect President Franklin D. Roosevelt after the attack on Pearl Harbor anything else you want to say? |
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It's an illegal tax in the first place anyway, the states never officially ratified it, not enough of them anyway. So it's not just theft, it's illegal altogether. ... quit paying taxes then, and see how illegal it is... The fact is, although the IRS is simply a collection agency for the FED, they do have ways to get your money. They can't put you in jail for not paying your income taxes though. The only reason they got Capone was because he was selling boot leg liquor across the boarder into Canada. There is a law against not paying taxes on business outside of the U.S. You can also get in trouble for filing a false return and telling lies. But if you file honestly, and then just refuse to pay, they can not put you in jail. They may try to take your property, but they cannot put you in jail. The reason is because it is a civil case not a criminal one. maybe you should ask wesly snipes, redd foxx, and willie nelson if you are wrong here... the charge for capone was (ahem) TAX EVASION... They did not go to jail for not paying. Tax "evasion" is deliberate. They went for failing to file. That could be construed as tax evasion. If you file, and you owe, and don't pay, they can't put you in jail. They can only try to take your property. It is a civil case. from wiki: His attempt to bribe and intimidate the potential jurors was discovered by Ness's men, The Untouchables. The venire (jury pool) was switched with one from another case, and Capone was stymied. Following a long trial, on October 17 the jury returned a mixed verdict, finding Capone guilty of five counts of tax evasion and failing to file tax returns[25][26] (the Volstead Act violations were dropped). The judge sentenced him to 11 years imprisonment, at the time the longest tax evasion sentence ever given, along with heavy fines, and liens were filed against his various properties.[27] His appeals of both the conviction and the sentence were denied.[28] One of the Capone properties seized by the federal government was an armored limousine. The limousine was later used to protect President Franklin D. Roosevelt after the attack on Pearl Harbor anything else you want to say? He was charged with tax evasion. Not for NOT PAYING his taxes. He failed to file. But since you didn't post any of the details it is difficult know what actual laws they based their case on. |
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It's an illegal tax in the first place anyway, the states never officially ratified it, not enough of them anyway. So it's not just theft, it's illegal altogether. ... quit paying taxes then, and see how illegal it is... The fact is, although the IRS is simply a collection agency for the FED, they do have ways to get your money. They can't put you in jail for not paying your income taxes though. The only reason they got Capone was because he was selling boot leg liquor across the boarder into Canada. There is a law against not paying taxes on business outside of the U.S. You can also get in trouble for filing a false return and telling lies. But if you file honestly, and then just refuse to pay, they can not put you in jail. They may try to take your property, but they cannot put you in jail. The reason is because it is a civil case not a criminal one. maybe you should ask wesly snipes, redd foxx, and willie nelson if you are wrong here... the charge for capone was (ahem) TAX EVASION... They did not go to jail for not paying. Tax "evasion" is deliberate. They went for failing to file. That could be construed as tax evasion. If you file, and you owe, and don't pay, they can't put you in jail. They can only try to take your property. It is a civil case. from wiki: His attempt to bribe and intimidate the potential jurors was discovered by Ness's men, The Untouchables. The venire (jury pool) was switched with one from another case, and Capone was stymied. Following a long trial, on October 17 the jury returned a mixed verdict, finding Capone guilty of five counts of tax evasion and failing to file tax returns[25][26] (the Volstead Act violations were dropped). The judge sentenced him to 11 years imprisonment, at the time the longest tax evasion sentence ever given, along with heavy fines, and liens were filed against his various properties.[27] His appeals of both the conviction and the sentence were denied.[28] One of the Capone properties seized by the federal government was an armored limousine. The limousine was later used to protect President Franklin D. Roosevelt after the attack on Pearl Harbor anything else you want to say? He was charged with tax evasion. Not for NOT PAYING his taxes. He failed to file. But since you didn't post any of the details it is difficult know what actual laws they based their case on. it really is self explanatory... finding Capone guilty of five counts of tax evasion and failing to file tax returns i fail to see how you don't know he went to jail for not paying taxes... |
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The United States operates under a voluntary tax compliance system; however, that doesn't mean that paying your taxes is not required. Now tell me, how does the above sentence make any sense? Where is the actual law that states or "requires" a person to pay income taxes? |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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It's an illegal tax in the first place anyway, the states never officially ratified it, not enough of them anyway. So it's not just theft, it's illegal altogether. ... quit paying taxes then, and see how illegal it is... The fact is, although the IRS is simply a collection agency for the FED, they do have ways to get your money. They can't put you in jail for not paying your income taxes though. The only reason they got Capone was because he was selling boot leg liquor across the boarder into Canada. There is a law against not paying taxes on business outside of the U.S. You can also get in trouble for filing a false return and telling lies. But if you file honestly, and then just refuse to pay, they can not put you in jail. They may try to take your property, but they cannot put you in jail. The reason is because it is a civil case not a criminal one. maybe you should ask wesly snipes, redd foxx, and willie nelson if you are wrong here... the charge for capone was (ahem) TAX EVASION... They did not go to jail for not paying. Tax "evasion" is deliberate. They went for failing to file. That could be construed as tax evasion. If you file, and you owe, and don't pay, they can't put you in jail. They can only try to take your property. It is a civil case. from wiki: His attempt to bribe and intimidate the potential jurors was discovered by Ness's men, The Untouchables. The venire (jury pool) was switched with one from another case, and Capone was stymied. Following a long trial, on October 17 the jury returned a mixed verdict, finding Capone guilty of five counts of tax evasion and failing to file tax returns[25][26] (the Volstead Act violations were dropped). The judge sentenced him to 11 years imprisonment, at the time the longest tax evasion sentence ever given, along with heavy fines, and liens were filed against his various properties.[27] His appeals of both the conviction and the sentence were denied.[28] One of the Capone properties seized by the federal government was an armored limousine. The limousine was later used to protect President Franklin D. Roosevelt after the attack on Pearl Harbor anything else you want to say? He was charged with tax evasion. Not for NOT PAYING his taxes. He failed to file. But since you didn't post any of the details it is difficult know what actual laws they based their case on. it really is self explanatory... finding Capone guilty of five counts of tax evasion and failing to file tax returns i fail to see how you don't know he went to jail for not paying taxes... It seems that way, and they love for everyone to believe that a law exists that says you have to pay income tax. But the law does not exist. There are UCC regulations within the corporate State that say you have to FILE. If he would have filed and then just failed to PAY they could not have put him in jail. All they could do is arrest him for his illegal activities or seize his property for payment of taxes. But they could not have put him in jail for NOT PAYING. We don't have debtors prisons anymore. They did manage to convict him for NOT Filing and reporting his income, which is construed as purposely refusing to comply to UCC rules about filing. |
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The United States operates under a voluntary tax compliance system; however, that doesn't mean that paying your taxes is not required. Now tell me, how does the above sentence make any sense? Where is the actual law that states or "requires" a person to pay income taxes? you posted it... you explain it... |
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The United States operates under a voluntary tax compliance system; however, that doesn't mean that paying your taxes is not required. Now tell me, how does the above sentence make any sense? Where is the actual law that states or "requires" a person to pay income taxes? you posted it... you explain it... I posted it, I didn't write it. I cut and pasted it. AND IT DOES NOT MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. These things are written to purposely fool the public. |
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It's an illegal tax in the first place anyway, the states never officially ratified it, not enough of them anyway. So it's not just theft, it's illegal altogether. ... quit paying taxes then, and see how illegal it is... I have heard that some people have taken congress to court and prove that the law states you have to file but they cannot force you to pay, cannot garnish your wage, or lock a person up for owing a bill. I have heard they some courts ruled it is illegal to garnish someone’s wages. I would love to find these court cases. |
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Edited by
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Filing is REQUIRED by way of UCC rules. (Corporate Laws)
Paying the actual bill, is just like paying any other bill. If you want to get paid, you may have to take a person to court and get a court order. Payment is said to be required, but it is not required by criminal law. It becomes a civil case when you don't pay your rent. Rent is required, but you don't get thrown in jail for not paying your rent. You just get sued and taken to court and maybe you get evicted. The IRS is just a collection agency for the FED. I know this for a fact because I owed over 20 thousand dollars in taxes from being married to a man who was found to have filed incorrectly according to the IRS and they got judgement against him, and me because my name was on the filing papers. They could not or did not put me or him in jail. Eventually the statute of limitations ran out on the bill and I did not pay any of it. At the time, I did not personally even make that much money in a year, so it would be hard for them to say I owed it to them. They would have settled for part of it, but I could not pay any of it. After ten years, they wrote it off. NOBODY WENT TO JAIL. |
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It's an illegal tax in the first place anyway, the states never officially ratified it, not enough of them anyway. So it's not just theft, it's illegal altogether. ... quit paying taxes then, and see how illegal it is... I have heard that some people have taken congress to court and prove that the law states you have to file but they cannot force you to pay, cannot garnish your wage, or lock a person up for owing a bill. I have heard they some courts ruled it is illegal to garnish someone’s wages. I would love to find these court cases. you heard wrong...have you ever heard of "debtors prison"? most states will garnish your wages, Texas being one of them... it does say, however, that you probably won't spend any jail time for money you don't have but owe, but it is up to the courts on that... |
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