Topic: The aftermath of the Boston Bombing
metalwing's photo
Sat 04/20/13 03:05 AM
Edited by metalwing on Sat 04/20/13 03:20 AM
Two young radical Islamic Chechen terrorists from Russia who have come to America for better lives did the deed. In the ten years they have been here they have grown from boys to young men and embraced the worst form of terrorist mentality. The one left will get the death penalty.

When the airlines were hijacked at 9/11, it changed our whole security system costing over a trillion dollars so far. Changes will now be made at Marathons. What do you think the changes will be? No bags allowed? No backpacks? How much will it cost?

Canisters of poison gas have been used in the subways of Tokyo, London, and Madrid. How long before it happens here?

People have carried stadium chairs and coolers into sports events forever. How long before they are hit with similar weapons as the Boston Marathon?

Political correctness has paralyzed the US government. What should be done? If things continue this way, America is lost.


dmckinnon's photo
Sat 04/20/13 04:13 AM
If things continue this way, America is lost.


America was lost long before this happened.

InvictusV's photo
Sat 04/20/13 06:27 AM
As with everything these days, security has become more about scoring political points and not offending special interest groups, than doing their damn job.

There are no excuses for this bombing.

Instead of increasing this or spending more on that maybe they should try firing some fning people for a change..

I have never seen failure embraced like it is with this idiot government.


metalwing's photo
Sat 04/20/13 09:53 AM
Has anyone heard anything from the government yet that sounds anything like "this radical Islamic (fill in the blank) has to stop!)?

mightymoe's photo
Sat 04/20/13 10:02 AM

Has anyone heard anything from the government yet that sounds anything like "this radical Islamic (fill in the blank) has to stop!)?


no, the libs don't want to hurt the terrorists feelings, by saying radical and Islam together...

what they ought to do is say a few derogatory things about them, and start investigating whoever bytches the most...

oldhippie1952's photo
Sat 04/20/13 11:29 AM
Is it going to come to the point we round up all muslims into internment camps like we did Japanese in WWII???

msharmony's photo
Sat 04/20/13 11:34 AM

Is it going to come to the point we round up all muslims into internment camps like we did Japanese in WWII???


hopefully not,, if we can do it to muslims, it can be done to christians and anyone else who follows 'religious' teachings,,,,,,



mightymoe's photo
Sat 04/20/13 01:12 PM


Is it going to come to the point we round up all muslims into internment camps like we did Japanese in WWII???


hopefully not,, if we can do it to muslims, it can be done to christians and anyone else who follows 'religious' teachings,,,,,,





it's not about religious teachings, it's about radicals and fanatics...
sometimes peoples interpretations of holy books lack some common sense...

msharmony's photo
Sat 04/20/13 01:20 PM



Is it going to come to the point we round up all muslims into internment camps like we did Japanese in WWII???


hopefully not,, if we can do it to muslims, it can be done to christians and anyone else who follows 'religious' teachings,,,,,,





it's not about religious teachings, it's about radicals and fanatics...
sometimes peoples interpretations of holy books lack some common sense...



I agree, which is why IM hoping the muslim community doesnt become a target because of the radicals amongst them,,,,,,

mightymoe's photo
Sat 04/20/13 01:26 PM




Is it going to come to the point we round up all muslims into internment camps like we did Japanese in WWII???


hopefully not,, if we can do it to muslims, it can be done to christians and anyone else who follows 'religious' teachings,,,,,,





it's not about religious teachings, it's about radicals and fanatics...
sometimes peoples interpretations of holy books lack some common sense...





I agree, which is why IM hoping the muslim community doesnt become a target because of the radicals amongst them,,,,,,


the non violent muslims out number the radical fanatics by about 10 to 1... so maybe they should put more effort into restraining the violent ones...

msharmony's photo
Sat 04/20/13 01:33 PM





Is it going to come to the point we round up all muslims into internment camps like we did Japanese in WWII???


hopefully not,, if we can do it to muslims, it can be done to christians and anyone else who follows 'religious' teachings,,,,,,





it's not about religious teachings, it's about radicals and fanatics...
sometimes peoples interpretations of holy books lack some common sense...





I agree, which is why IM hoping the muslim community doesnt become a target because of the radicals amongst them,,,,,,


the non violent muslims out number the radical fanatics by about 10 to 1... so maybe they should put more effort into restraining the violent ones...


its perhaps doable, but not without much more loss of life and probably not alot willing to lose their lives EXCEPT The radicals,,,

the most violent hold the power over all those non violent,,,

metalwing's photo
Sat 04/20/13 02:03 PM
It reaches the point where it is not a religion anymore and it is just a menace to society. Evil breeds evil.

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 04/20/13 02:08 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 04/20/13 02:14 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/reported-russian-caucasus-involvement-in-boston-bombings-follow-years-of-terror-in-russia/2013/04/19/9f454680-a8e5-11e2-9e1c-bb0fb0c2edd9_story.html?tid=pm_world_pop

By Associated Press,

Apr 19, 2013 11:26 PM EDT
AP

MAKHACHKALA, Russia — Militants from Chechnya and other restive provinces in Russia’s volatile North Caucasus have targeted Moscow and other areas with bombings and hostage-takings, but if it turns out that the suspects in the Boston bombings are linked to those insurgencies it would mark the first time the Russian conflict had spawned a major terror attack in the United States.

The suspects were identified by law enforcement officials and family members as Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev, ethnic Chechens with ties to the Russian region. There was no immediate information of their links, if any, to any insurgent group.










Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, was killed in a gun battle with police in Massachusetts overnight, officials said. His 19-year-old brother escaped.

Before moving to the United States, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev lived briefly in Makhachkala, the capital of Dagestan, a predominantly Muslim republic that has become the epicenter of the Islamic insurgency that spilled over from Chechnya. On his page on the social networking site VKontakte, Tsarnaev said he attended School No. 1 from 1999 until 2001.

The principal of School No. 1 in Makhachkala, Irina Bandurina, told the AP that Tsarnaev left for the U.S. in March 2002.

The suspects’ father, who lives in Makhachkala, told the AP his younger son was a second-year medical student and “a true angel.”

The conflict in Chechnya began in 1994 as a separatist war, but quickly morphed into an Islamic insurgency dedicated to carving out an independent Islamic state in the Caucasus.

Russian troops withdrew from Chechnya in 1996 after the first Chechen war, leaving it de-facto independent and largely lawless, but then rolled back three years later following apartment building explosions in Moscow and other cities blamed on the rebels.

Chechnya has stabilized under the steely grip of Kremlin-backed local strongman Ramzan Kadyrov, a former rebel whose forces have been accused of massive rights abuses. But the Islamic insurgency has spread to neighboring provinces, with Dagestan, sandwiched between Chechnya and the Caspian Sea, becoming the epicenter of violence with militants launching daily attacks against police and other authorities.

Militants from Chechnya and neighboring provinces have carried out a long series of terror attacks in Russia, including a 2002 hostage-taking raid in a Moscow theater, in which 129 hostages died, a 2004 hostage-taking in a school in the southern city of Beslan that killed more than 330 people, and numerous bombings in Moscow and other cities.

The Obama administration placed Chechen warlord Doku Umarov on a list of terrorist leaders after he claimed responsibility for March 2010 double suicide bombings on Moscow’s subway that killed 40 and a November 2009 train bombing that claimed 26 lives.

In recent years, however, militants in Chechnya, Dagestan and other neighboring provinces have largely refrained from attacks outside the Caucasus.

Russian officials and experts have claimed that rebels in Chechnya had close links with al-Qaida. They said that dozens of fighters from Arab countries trickled into Chechnya during the fighting there, while some Chechen militants have gone to fight in Afghanistan.


The U.S. has long urged Russia’s government and separatist elements in Chechnya not aligned with al-Qaida or other terrorist organizations to seek a political settlement.

Washington provided aid to the area during the high points of fighting in the 1990s and in the early 2000s, and has demanded human rights accountability.




Michael Birnbaum

The massive data search in the Boston bombings would be unlikely in E.U. because of privacy concerns.

But the U.S. always backed the territorial integrity of Russia, never endorsing the separatists’ desire for an independent state. And it has supported Russia’s right to root out terrorism in the region.

In recent years, people from Chechnya have faced charges in several European countries.

In 2011, a Chechen-born man was sentenced in Denmark to 12 years in prison for preparing a letter bomb that exploded as he was assembling it in a Copenhagen hotel a year earlier.

Lors Doukayev, a then 25-year-old, one-legged resident of Belgium, was wounded when assembling the device, which is believed also to have been intended for the Jyllands-Posten newspaper, which published controversial cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad. No one else was injured. The letter was filled with steel pellets and contained triacetone triperoxide, or TATP, which terrorists used in the bombs that killed 52 people in London in 2005.

Last month, Spain’s Interior Ministry said French and Spanish police arrested three suspected Islamic extremists in an operation in and around Paris. A statement said the suspected activists were of Chechen origin and believed to be linked to an alleged terror cell dismantled last August in southern Spain. The cell was suspected of planning attacks in Spain and elsewhere in Europe.

Two suspects, Elsy Issakov and Mourad Idrissov, were arrested in Paris and a third, Ali Dokaev, was detained in the town of Noyon, northeast of the French capital. The arrests took place Feb. 26.

In August, two Russians arrested in the southwestern Spanish city of La Linea were charged with belonging to an unnamed terror organization and possession of explosives.

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Isachenkov reported from Moscow. Bradley Klapper in Washington contributed to this report.

msharmony's photo
Sat 04/20/13 02:12 PM

It reaches the point where it is not a religion anymore and it is just a menace to society. Evil breeds evil.


people do evil things, no group of individuals is immune to it or has a monopoly on it,,,

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 04/20/13 02:21 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/reported-russian-caucasus-involvement-in-boston-bombings-follow-years-of-terror-in-russia/2013/04/19/9f454680-a8e5-11e2-9e1c-bb0fb0c2edd9_story.html?tid=pm_world_pop

Apr 19, 2013 11:26 PM EDT
AP

MAKHACHKALA, Russia — Militants from Chechnya and other restive provinces in Russia’s volatile North Caucasus have targeted Moscow and other areas with bombings and hostage-takings, but if it turns out that the suspects in the Boston bombings are linked to those insurgencies it would mark the first time the Russian conflict had spawned a major terror attack in the United States.

The suspects were identified by law enforcement officials and family members as Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev, ethnic Chechens with ties to the Russian region. There was no immediate information of their links, if any, to any insurgent group.




Michael Birnbaum

The massive data search in the Boston bombings would be unlikely in E.U. because of privacy concerns.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, was killed in a gun battle with police in Massachusetts overnight, officials said. His 19-year-old brother escaped.

Before moving to the United States, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev lived briefly in Makhachkala, the capital of Dagestan, a predominantly Muslim republic that has become the epicenter of the Islamic insurgency that spilled over from Chechnya. On his page on the social networking site VKontakte, Tsarnaev said he attended School No. 1 from 1999 until 2001.

The principal of School No. 1 in Makhachkala, Irina Bandurina, told the AP that Tsarnaev left for the U.S. in March 2002.

The suspects’ father, who lives in Makhachkala, told the AP his younger son was a second-year medical student and “a true angel.”

The conflict in Chechnya began in 1994 as a separatist war, but quickly morphed into an Islamic insurgency dedicated to carving out an independent Islamic state in the Caucasus.

Russian troops withdrew from Chechnya in 1996 after the first Chechen war, leaving it de-facto independent and largely lawless, but then rolled back three years later following apartment building explosions in Moscow and other cities blamed on the rebels.

Chechnya has stabilized under the steely grip of Kremlin-backed local strongman Ramzan Kadyrov, a former rebel whose forces have been accused of massive rights abuses. But the Islamic insurgency has spread to neighboring provinces, with Dagestan, sandwiched between Chechnya and the Caspian Sea, becoming the epicenter of violence with militants launching daily attacks against police and other authorities.

Militants from Chechnya and neighboring provinces have carried out a long series of terror attacks in Russia, including a 2002 hostage-taking raid in a Moscow theater, in which 129 hostages died, a 2004 hostage-taking in a school in the southern city of Beslan that killed more than 330 people, and numerous bombings in Moscow and other cities.

The Obama administration placed Chechen warlord Doku Umarov on a list of terrorist leaders after he claimed responsibility for March 2010 double suicide bombings on Moscow’s subway that killed 40 and a November 2009 train bombing that claimed 26 lives.

In recent years, however, militants in Chechnya, Dagestan and other neighboring provinces have largely refrained from attacks outside the Caucasus.

Russian officials and experts have claimed that rebels in Chechnya had close links with al-Qaida. They said that dozens of fighters from Arab countries trickled into Chechnya during the fighting there, while some Chechen militants have gone to fight in Afghanistan

The U.S. has long urged Russia’s government and separatist elements in Chechnya not aligned with al-Qaida or other terrorist organizations to seek a political settlement.

Washington provided aid to the area during the high points of fighting in the 1990s and in the early 2000s, and has demanded human rights accountability.


But the U.S. always backed the territorial integrity of Russia, never endorsing the separatists’ desire for an independent state. And it has supported Russia’s right to root out terrorism in the region.

In recent years, people from Chechnya have faced charges in several European countries.

In 2011, a Chechen-born man was sentenced in Denmark to 12 years in prison for preparing a letter bomb that exploded as he was assembling it in a Copenhagen hotel a year earlier.

Lors Doukayev, a then 25-year-old, one-legged resident of Belgium, was wounded when assembling the device, which is believed also to have been intended for the Jyllands-Posten newspaper, which published controversial cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad. No one else was injured. The letter was filled with steel pellets and contained triacetone triperoxide, or TATP, which terrorists used in the bombs that killed 52 people in London in 2005.

Last month, Spain’s Interior Ministry said French and Spanish police arrested three suspected Islamic extremists in an operation in and around Paris. A statement said the suspected activists were of Chechen origin and believed to be linked to an alleged terror cell dismantled last August in southern Spain. The cell was suspected of planning attacks in Spain and elsewhere in Europe.

Two suspects, Elsy Issakov and Mourad Idrissov, were arrested in Paris and a third, Ali Dokaev, was detained in the town of Noyon, northeast of the French capital. The arrests took place Feb. 26.

In August, two Russians arrested in the southwestern Spanish city of La Linea were charged with belonging to an unnamed terror organization and possession of explosives.

___

Isachenkov reported from Moscow. Bradley Klapper in Washington contributed to this report.

Copyright 2013 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

metalwing's photo
Sat 04/20/13 02:33 PM


It reaches the point where it is not a religion anymore and it is just a menace to society. Evil breeds evil.


people do evil things, no group of individuals is immune to it or has a monopoly on it,,,


Maybe you should look up the word "monopoly".