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Topic: Breaking news: TWA Flight 800 Shot Down?
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Wed 06/19/13 09:58 PM
TWA Flight 800 Shot Down? Ex-FBI Investigator Goes At It With Producer of New Documentary

Read more: http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/06/19/twa-flight-800-shot-down-ex-fbi-investigator-goes-it-producer-new-epix-documentary#ixzz2WjHnXJpP


What caused the crash of TWA Flight 800? New information from whistleblowers is challenging the official explanation given by the NTSB that an electrical short circuit triggered a gas explosion.


Megyn Kelly went over the bombshell revelations on America Live with James Kallstrom, the former FBI Special Agent in charge of the investigation, who spoke with her by phone, and Tom Stalcup, co-producer of the new EPIX documentary "TWA Flight 800."

Kallstrom challenges the view that a missile may have hit the airliner, casting doubt on what eyewitnesses to the crash think they may have seen. He said no stone was left unturned by investigators, and questions where any new evidence in the case could have come from, since the pieces of the plane are still in the same place where the jet was re-created by investigators.

Stalcup went after Kallstrom for an animation of the event created by the CIA that he believes shows an impossible scenario of events. He believes Kallstrom and the investigators chose to ignore what witnesses said, and to this day none have testified publicly.

"Let them testify. That's what you should have done in 1997," said Stalcup.

Megyn questioned why there would be some kind of "conspiracy" to cover up the true cause of the disaster. Kallstrom said if the whistleblowers were "real men" they'd have come forward when the investigation was still ongoing and he could have done something about it.

"Now that they've got their government pensions and they feel safe. It's a crazy idea," said Kallstrom, lamenting the prospect that the victim's families will now start to wonder what happened all over again.

He said the documentary is "fascinating just like Walt Disney is fascinating."


Read more:http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/06/19/twa-flight-800-shot-down-ex-fbi-investigator-goes-it-producer-new-epix-documentary#ixzz2WjHEgVx0

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Thu 06/20/13 11:39 AM
I guess nobody finds this news worthy.

I even saw them talking about it on television last night. Did anyone see the documentary? I missed it.


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Thu 06/20/13 11:42 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 06/20/13 11:43 AM
Documentary Alleges TWA Flight 800 Cover-Up

In a new documentary, former investigators who looked into the mysterious crash of TWA Flight 800, which killed 230, are breaking their silence to claim that the explosion that brought down the plane in 1996 was likely no accident, and that the final report on the cause of the blast was falsified.

TWA Flight 800 exploded in mid-air on July 17, 1996 about 11 minutes after taking off from New York's JFK airport on its way to Paris. Though theories abounded as to what happened to the plane -- from a bomb on the aircraft to it being struck by a missile or even a meteorite -- the National Transportation Safety Board concluded after a four-year investigation that the probable cause of the crash was an accidental fuel tank explosion. The NTSB said it could not be sure what exactly ignited the blast, but "of the sources evaluated by the investigation, the most likely was a short circuit outside of the [fuel tank] that allowed excessive voltage to enter it through electrical wiring..."

DOCUMENT: 2000 NTSB Report on TWA Flight 800's 1996 Crash

But according to the new documentary, named TWA Flight 800 and premiering on Epix next month, six former members of the official crash investigation have stepped forward to refute the NTSB's findings, saying the crash report was purposefully falsified, and to claim the investigation was "systematically undermined" by federal authorities.

"We didn't find any part of the airplane that indicated a mechanical failure," one of the whistleblowers says in a trailer for the film. The former officials allege the explosion came from outside the plane, though they don't speculate any further on the original source.

Another of the whistleblowers, former senior accident investigator with the NTSB Hank Hughes, said in a preview of the documentary that FBI agents were spotted on surveillance cameras going through the hanger where the crash evidence was kept "in the wee hours of the morning... for purposes unknown."

Some of the previous theories about the crash have been disproven in the years since and Tom Haueter, former director of Aviation Safety at the NTSB, told ABC News today that the former officials in the documentary are wrong. He said that the evidence that the explosion was an internal accident was "irrefutable."

There was "no sign" of penetration from the outside, Haueter said.

The whistleblowers are calling for the NTSB to reopen its investigation, and the NTSB said in a statement today it will reexamine the case if new evidence is presented or "on a showing that the Board's findings are erroneous."

"While the NTSB rarely re-investigates issues that have already been examined, our investigations are never closed and we can review any new information not previously considered by the Board," the NTSB said. "The TWA Flight 800 investigation lasted four years and remains one of the NTSB's most detailed investigations. Investigators took great care reviewing, documenting and analyzing facts and data and held a five-day hearing to gather additional facts before determining the probable cause of the accident during a two-day Board meeting."

In a petition to reconsider the accident sent to the NTSB, the former investigators and family members of the victims claim to have "new and material evidence and analysis that refute the NTSB's original findings."

But not all victims' families are on board with the new probe. Matt Zimkiewicz, who lost his sister on the flight, said in a letter to other victims' families, "It is a big distraction and particularly painful for families."

"Personal self-fulfilling motives by exploiting those who died on TWA800 is nauseating," he said. "It is my personal, as well as my family's position that we have full faith and confidence in the NTSB's final report on TWA800."

ABC News' Matt Hosford contributed to this report.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/documentary-alleges-twa-flight-800-cover/story?id=19435980#.UcNMlPk3uSo



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Thu 06/20/13 11:47 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 06/20/13 11:51 AM
Slick Willy dood it!

and he did that Swissair MD-11 as well!(Flight 111)

http://www.google.com/search?q=Swissair+747+explodes&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&client=firefox-a&oq=Swissair+747+explodes&gs_l=heirloom-serp.12...30405.33936.0.37064.9.2.0.7.0.0.126.207.1j1.2.0...0.0...1ac.1.15.heirloom-serp.7HQsoUSW4ws

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Thu 06/20/13 11:48 AM

I guess nobody finds this news worthy.

I even saw them talking about it on television last night. Did anyone see the documentary? I missed it.


This is the first I have heard about this incident. Nobody is willing to shoot the messenger the second time around, would make them look rather foolish. The truth will out in the end.

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Thu 06/20/13 11:55 AM
noway

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Thu 06/20/13 12:08 PM
Those capable of tyranny are capable of perjury to sustain it.

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Thu 06/20/13 12:31 PM
http://mingle2.com/topic/show/358635

Topic: TWA flight 800 crash story a lie!

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Thu 06/20/13 01:10 PM
Americans are the most lied-to people on Earth. The
global perception of the "Ugly American" isn't
that we are ugly, but that we are so clueless about what
is going on in the world, in particular the evils
committed by the United States Government using our taxes
and children behind our backs. Our government craps on
other peoples' nations, while we are told that those
people love us, sit up nights to admire us, and lead good
moral lives so that when they die, their souls will go to
America. And when we visit those countries where the US
Government plays their covert games, our delusions run
headlong into their reality, and feelings (and if we are
lucky, little else) get hurt.

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Thu 06/20/13 01:21 PM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Thu 06/20/13 01:23 PM
I saw this on World news here yesterday. This is just something started up to promote a Movie, in hopes it draws more movie goers and makes Millions. Media usually lies about many things to sell news, nothing new.

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Thu 06/20/13 01:33 PM

I saw this on World news here yesterday. This is just something started up to promote a Movie, in hopes it draws more movie goers and makes Millions. Media usually lies about many things to sell news, nothing new.


Now that is interesting. I have no theory on this one but I am really interested in the opinions of people on here.





Eyewitnesses have long claimed they saw ordnance explode right outside the plane — perhaps at the hands of a terrorist or criminal — and that’s what sent the craft tumbling.
And now a new film might shed light on who’s right, CNN reported.
Co-producer Tom Stalcup told CNN that the film provides “solid proof that there was an external detonation.
“Of course, everyone knows about the eyewitness statements, but we also have corroborating information from the radar data, and the radar data shows an asymmetric explosion coming out of that plane — something that didn’t happen in the official theory.
 
“Not one single eyewitness was allowed to testify — that’s unheard of,” he said.

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Thu 06/20/13 02:03 PM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Thu 06/20/13 02:04 PM

And now a new film might shed light on who’s right,



They waited to do this through a movie years later.

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Thu 06/20/13 02:05 PM
The radar data does not agree.

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Thu 06/20/13 02:06 PM


And now a new film might shed light on who’s right,



They waited to do this through a movie years later.



What movie?

I thought it was a documentary.

Is there a movie?

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Thu 06/20/13 02:07 PM



And now a new film might shed light on who’s right,



They waited to do this through a movie years later.



What movie?

I thought it was a documentary.

Is there a movie?



"Film" is a movie.

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Thu 06/20/13 02:11 PM




And now a new film might shed light on who’s right,



They waited to do this through a movie years later.



What movie?

I thought it was a documentary.

Is there a movie?



"Film" is a movie.


No, a movie is generally fiction.

A documentary is history, or an opinion piece.

There is no movie.


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Thu 06/20/13 02:14 PM

The radar data does not agree.


What radar?
Did the FBI say so?

How do you know they did not suppress or change that information?
If they (we) shot down a plane, and there is a cover up wouldn't the FBI cover up all information? Including any radar reports?

You your head... geeeeze.

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Thu 06/20/13 02:15 PM





And now a new film might shed light on who’s right,



They waited to do this through a movie years later.



What movie?

I thought it was a documentary.

Is there a movie?



"Film" is a movie.


No, a movie is generally fiction.

A documentary is history, or an opinion piece.

There is no movie.




How do people know it is not Fiction.



June 19, 2013

Filmmaker Challenges TWA Flight 800 Crash Report Email this article |Print this article

By Glenn Pew, Contributing Editor, Video Editor








A documentary film called TWA Flight 800 is attracting attention through its claims that the NTSB's four-year investigation into the 1996 crash included intentionally falsified information and a phony conclusion, and that the case should be reopened -- but some key players are, so far, unimpressed. Tom Stalcup, the documentary's co-producer, says the movie does not explain the explosion of the jet. He told CNN the documentary presents "solid proof that there was an external detonation" and "radar data shows an asymmetric explosion coming out of that plane," contrary to the findings of investigators. He says the documentary includes six former investigators and eyewitness accounts, and the producers say they intend to file a petition asking the NTSB to reopen the case. TWA Flight 800, a Boeing 747-131, exploded in the air over southern Long Island on July 17, 1996, killing all 230 onboard. Investigators determined the cause of the explosion was a fault common to several other explosions. In response to the documentary the family member of one victim was direct in his criticism of the filmmakers.



"Personal self-fulfilling motives by exploiting those who died on TWA800 is nauseating," Matt Zimkiewicz, who lost his sister to the flight, told ABC news. Zimkiewicz said both he and his family had "full faith and confidence" in the NTSB's findings. The NTSB determined that "the crash occurred as the result of a fuel/air explosion in the airplane's center wing fuel tank," and the ignition energy "most likely" entered the tank through the fuel quantity indication system wiring. (PDF) The NTSB stated that neither the location of the ignition within the tank, or "the ignition energy release mechanism," could be determined from the available evidence. It also stated, "There was no evidence of a missile or bomb detonation." Asked why the government would hide a "real" reason for the crash, Stalcup said he refused to speculate. Sources at the NTSB stand by their conclusions and say they are open to any new evidence.



The NTSB's computer models predicted that, on average, an aircraft would suffer a similar fuel tank explosion every four years. In May 1990, a Philippine Airlines 737-300 had suffered a center-wing fuel tank explosion. In 1996, Flight 800 exploded. In March 2001, a Thai Airways 737-400 exploded while sitting on a hot ramp at Bangkok. In 2006, a Boeing 727-200 suffered a fuel tank explosion in its right wing while the aircraft was on the ground at Bangalore, India. Multiple Airworthiness Directives were issued by the FAA for different Boeing models to address the problem many years after the TWA explosion. Each gave operators years to address the issue. In 2012, some of those directives met formal opposition from airline trade groups, which sought to delay implementation, citing cost concerns.



AVWeb.com

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Thu 06/20/13 02:15 PM


The radar data does not agree.


What radar?
Did the FBI say so?

How do you know they did not suppress or change that information?
If they (we) shot down a plane, and there is a cover up wouldn't the FBI cover up all information? Including any radar reports?

You your head... geeeeze.


The three documented radars in the report, the report you didn't read because you don't bother to look further into these things other than "Conspiracy." New York had a radar on it constantly, you know, airports and fancy things such as this...Fancy things you lot constantly ignore in pursuit of a fake truth.

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Thu 06/20/13 02:24 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 06/20/13 02:25 PM



The radar data does not agree.


What radar?
Did the FBI say so?

How do you know they did not suppress or change that information?
If they (we) shot down a plane, and there is a cover up wouldn't the FBI cover up all information? Including any radar reports?

You your head... geeeeze.


The three documented radars in the report, the report you didn't read because you don't bother to look further into these things other than "Conspiracy." New York had a radar on it constantly, you know, airports and fancy things such as this...Fancy things you lot constantly ignore in pursuit of a fake truth.


If there is a cover-up "reports" are pretty much in question.

So we know what the official "report" is.

Now it is time to look at conflicting EVIDENCE and witness testimony.
Don't you think??




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