Yes quite.
17 is only a minor in terms of legal rights that an adult would have.
However 17 is considered a young adult in the legal system.
A lot of 17 year olds are sentenced in court no differently than adults.
You want to know why?
It's because they are considered young adults who are responsible for their actions.
Okay. So you claim to have fought someone who attacked you.
It was okay for you to defend yourself but it's not okay for George Zimmerman to defend himself?
When deadly force is used against you you have the right to use deadly force to defend yourself as George Zimmerman did.
Hold on.
How do you know that George Zimmerman started the fight?
You don't.
Another assumption.
Just because George Zimmerman started getting into MMA doesn't mean he had skill or talent to fight off anyone.
A lot of guys get into MMA but couldn't fight a fly.
Self defense is not based on whether or not you know how to fight.
Once again you are trying to claim Treyvon Martin was a minor.
He was a young adult who was responsible for his actions.
Such as his actions to confront and assault George Zimmerman.
Your statutory rape argument is flawed.
If a 17 year old goes out and rapes someone they'd be charged as an adult.
No differently than an 18+ year old who goes out and rapes someone.

how many legal courses have you taken?..

lol

don't matter dude,, it will all come out in the 'wash'


Z will be held accountable one way or another for taking the life of an unarmed minor,,,,

I haven't had to take any to know and understand the legal system and the way it functions.
How many have you taken?
Not enough as it's apparent that you can't comprehend the law.
There is no "wash".
No.
He won't.
As he has nothing to be held accountable for.
He had the legal right to defend himself.
Treyvon Martin was not an innocent minor skipping on home from fairy land.
He was a young adult responsible for his actions that night.
Such as the action to confront and assault George Zimmerman.
You don't have to have a gun or a weapon to use deadly force.
Case in point, Treyvon Martin used the concrete.
You are blind to the laws and facts of the case due to your own personal bias and are trying to use every excuse or assumption you can think of only to fail.

lol


and trey had the 'legal right' to defend himself against a stalker too,,,,


there is NO evidence the minor confronted George other than to ask him the REASONABLE question of why he was following him

there is NO EVIDENCE that trey 'used the concrete'

these are all just the CLAIMS of a man on trial for second degree murder who has had legal courses and aspires to be a cop,,,,


but , if that's the narrative you really believe,, that's your prerogative dude

one day big Z might just follow and harass the wrong person ,,,,and then THEY can explain their right to defend themselves if they are fortunate enough to leave no witness,,,,

karma is a BEATCHHHHH

that 200 pound adult? Id be fighting him too,, as I said, that was the case when I was assaulted in the park by an aDULT following me around,,,,,

pulling a gun for a fist fight is 'unreasonable',,,particularly for someone fifty pounds lighter than you are,

except as a very last resort,,,,

I know this is not what people here believe, and that is yalls prerogative too


shoot first,(maybe scream a little) and just be rid of the 'thugs' in the world,,,,gotcha

There is evidence.
Zimmerman's broken nose.
Guess you chose to overlook that.
Yet again there is evidence of that.
The injuries on the back of George Zimmerman's head.
They are claims but they are backed up by the facts you dumb b word.
Once again you've chosen to ignore the facts.
That is why, once again, you have failed.
Allow me to let you in on a little secret.
Karma doesn't exist.
It's a lie that's told to try to make people feel better.

yep,, boo hoo, he had a broken nose...lol

that warrants shooting someone dead in the minds of many people apparently

schoolyard fights may never be the same,,,

the injuries on the back of zs head amounted to two SCRATCHES,,lol


HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Karma, karma, karma,, its coming,,,,

The broken nose on top of the beating that Treyvon Martin put on George Zimmerman using the concrete is deadly force which allowed George Zimmerman to use deadly force.
You are not required to be bleeding to death to use deadly force.
You do not have to have any injuries at all as long as you had a reasonable fear of your life.

You are a fool.
You know nothing and so can understand nothing.

theres that word reasonable again

as I said, schoolyard fights will never be the same

its now 'reasonable' to assume that some 160 pound teen breaking your nose is a life threatening situation,,,

haaaaa

,.,, talk about foolish,, but whatever floats the paranoids boats,,,

Fool!
As long as you continue to ignore the facts you will never know.
An unknowing fool like youself isn't worth my time to continue arguing with.
Now have a nice day.

haaaa

yeah, the FACTS don't seem to be consistent with Zs story


Zs story: he thought Treyvon was around his age

FACT: he told the 911 operator Treyvon was in his late teens

Zs story: he told the operator where he lived

FACT: Z said he didn't want to divulge that information because he wasn't sure about where Treyvon was (often people don't want potentially spooky or dangerous persons to know their address, in case they come back)


Zs story: Treyvon came back and sucker punched him

FACT: witness who saw from his back porch first saw them 'tussling' in a vertical position, and later saw them on the ground

FACT: witness on phone heard treyvon ask z why he was following him, before hearing Z respond with asking what Treyvon was doing there and then Treyvon telling Z to 'get off me'


Zs story: Treyvon repeatedly slammed his head on pavement

FACT: The MEDICS who examined him made no note of ANY injury to his head besides two scratches and a broken nose


,,,,,,,,I have had enough years and schooling to know how to RESEARCH things, in spite of the common rebuttal that If I don't agree with someone I am therefore a 'fool'

(or dumb b word,,,,)


I don't believe Zs narrative of what happened that night, plain and simple, and several FACTS backup WHY I don't believe him


perhaps eliminating the emotional namecalling and researching all available information in an attempt to understand ,, would not make some people appear to be such immature

'fools'.....





Zs story: bs that some find easy to believe, for whatever reason,,,,

they aren't FOOLS for believing him, they just didn't take those facts into consideration that I and millions of others have,,,

As a well educated investigator the evidence shows me Master Z saved his own life and took a big bite out of crime.

I do not, for one second, believe you would allow yourself or your kids to be beat to death by a dead thug.

and I do not, for one second, believe me or my kids would be following, harassing or accosting a minor

or that said 160 lb minor giving us a broken nose would make us feel in danger of being 'beat to death'

I can't help but to think it takes two to argue. Or in this case three, four and sometimes five or more. This is like a really crappy merry-go-round where everyone on it is getting slapped in the face. No one has learned to get off yet or duck under the hands.

Why can't we all just be friends and have a great big orgy or something? lol

its my fight or flight instinct

I haven't gotten to the 'flight' stage yet,, as long as punches are thrown at me,, I keep swinging back,,,

but, as to the other,, a group hug could be useful,,,

Even if one person keeps arguing. Everyone else could leave and let the one person argue with themselves.

Although I don't know if this thread would be as entertaining as it would be sad to watch one person present both sides of one argument. Although I did get a kick out of hearing about that one dude a few years ago who shot a bunch of people on a subway and then decided to represent himself in court. I would have loved to see him question himself on the stand. But I'm not sure how that guy was found fit to represent himself. hahaha

lol, its hard for one sane person to really argue,,,,I would think,,,


however, they can make an 'argument' in court,,,,


I prefer not to argue, really, a peacekeeper in real life,,

but not a door mat for people to step on either,,,,

i'm not sure why they haven't locked this thread yet... seems like just prejudice people talking about their racism...

any 17 year old kid that gets hunted down the way TM did should be a sad thing, but to some, it's not...

Who said anything about being a door mat? Einstein said insanity was doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. You guys have been making the same damn argument since this thread starts and even before it in other threads and it's obvious that no one is getting any where. I think I must be the only sane one in this thread as I'm the only one not arguing. I keep hoping it will stop. But it just keeps on going like that damn energizer bunny. lol

So tell me who the sane one is based on that definition I just gave when nothing has changed in this thread. The horse is gone from being beaten so bad.. No bones, no hair and not even a drop of blood. If this keeps up we're going to need an exorcist for this thread.