Topic: Missouri Fair clown draws criticism for Obama mask
msharmony's photo
Sat 08/17/13 11:40 AM
that 'clown' is retiring the office in 2017,, its how the system is set up

max 8 years, regardless of which 'clown' the people elect to office,,,

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 08/17/13 11:41 AM

whoa

Are you serious? You think there was an ounce of criticism by the Democrats over the bazillions and gazillions of George Bush masks displaying the most barbaric, hate-filled depictions imaginable. Additionally, Obama has NEVER offered anything nice to say of the whites in his family. I specifically recall him speaking of his "Typical White Aunt, who, if were walking down the street and two black youths were approaching her on the same side of the street .....would have walked to the other side of the street." What a reprehensible statement by Obama. In fact, I NEVER hear any Liberal or Democrat for that matter EVER mention Obama as being half white. When the media discovered that George Zimmerman was from a Hispanic mother, suddently he went from being "white", to being a "White Hispanic" male.

There was NEVER a shred of outrage by Democrats over the heinous depictions of George Bush by the media....NEVER....it was always "Free Speech."

As for the ULTIMATE hypocrisy....I still have printed website photos with the links included that clearly depict and compare George Bush with Chimpanzees, in a side-by-side comparison. Although one of the websites has since disappeared, the name can still be found across the Internet. Although we are not supposed to post links here, all one needs to do is research bush or chimp with a dot and com or smirking chimp dot com and you will find the source of this hatred. YET, NEVER ONCE did a Liberal ever complain about a White Male being physically compared to a Chimpanzee....but apparently FREE SPEECH which was NOT directed at his skin color but simply his political policies is NOT allowed. Sensitivity training for Rodeo Clowns once again proves that Political Correctness is a Joke.




whoa


I am serious. We are not talking 'criticism over a mask'

we are talking 'criticism of openly calling for violence against a SITTING PRESIDENT at a STATE SPONSORED EVENT'


Additonally, Obama has several times over spoken about his love for his mother AND his grandparents (the whites in his family),, particularly after his grandmother died during the last election,,,



next, hispnic is an ethnicity and white is a race


the statement about 'typical' white women , particularly in a certain era, grabbing their purses when black men approached was a truthful statement made in CONTEXT of a discussion about race relations,,,and I agree, its a topic MOST presidents and politicians are fearful to even address,,,,

but its far from irresponsible to do so,,,

AGAIN< this wasn't merely about presidential depictions in media

this was about a STATE SPONSORED EVENT, where violence against the SITTING PRESIDENT was encouraged,,,


free speech is still alive and well,, just look up obamas name on a internet search or youtube followed by whatever derogatory word you like,, and see what you get,,,


as far as being compared to a chimp, the comparison is sometimes made as a reference to someones inaptitude/goofiness, and sometimes its racial,, its hard to know the difference and most presidents face some type of ridicule, or end up the brunt of some jokes

third time THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE

the event was STATE SPONSORED< and beyond just ridiculing or comparing someone to a chimp, the action involved ENCOURAGING VIOLENCE AGAINST A SITTING PRESIDENT,,,


perhaps its more about free market where those paying for an event can set limitations upon the types of behavior accepted IN THAT EVENT,,
.and no one ever called for violence against GWB in all those Effigies?

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 08/17/13 11:43 AM

that 'clown' is retiring the office in 2017,, its how the system is set up

max 8 years, regardless of which 'clown' the people elect to office,,,
that's ten years too long for Soros' Clown!

msharmony's photo
Sat 08/17/13 11:43 AM


whoa

Are you serious? You think there was an ounce of criticism by the Democrats over the bazillions and gazillions of George Bush masks displaying the most barbaric, hate-filled depictions imaginable. Additionally, Obama has NEVER offered anything nice to say of the whites in his family. I specifically recall him speaking of his "Typical White Aunt, who, if were walking down the street and two black youths were approaching her on the same side of the street .....would have walked to the other side of the street." What a reprehensible statement by Obama. In fact, I NEVER hear any Liberal or Democrat for that matter EVER mention Obama as being half white. When the media discovered that George Zimmerman was from a Hispanic mother, suddently he went from being "white", to being a "White Hispanic" male.

There was NEVER a shred of outrage by Democrats over the heinous depictions of George Bush by the media....NEVER....it was always "Free Speech."

As for the ULTIMATE hypocrisy....I still have printed website photos with the links included that clearly depict and compare George Bush with Chimpanzees, in a side-by-side comparison. Although one of the websites has since disappeared, the name can still be found across the Internet. Although we are not supposed to post links here, all one needs to do is research bush or chimp with a dot and com or smirking chimp dot com and you will find the source of this hatred. YET, NEVER ONCE did a Liberal ever complain about a White Male being physically compared to a Chimpanzee....but apparently FREE SPEECH which was NOT directed at his skin color but simply his political policies is NOT allowed. Sensitivity training for Rodeo Clowns once again proves that Political Correctness is a Joke.




whoa


I am serious. We are not talking 'criticism over a mask'

we are talking 'criticism of openly calling for violence against a SITTING PRESIDENT at a STATE SPONSORED EVENT'


Additonally, Obama has several times over spoken about his love for his mother AND his grandparents (the whites in his family),, particularly after his grandmother died during the last election,,,



next, hispnic is an ethnicity and white is a race


the statement about 'typical' white women , particularly in a certain era, grabbing their purses when black men approached was a truthful statement made in CONTEXT of a discussion about race relations,,,and I agree, its a topic MOST presidents and politicians are fearful to even address,,,,

but its far from irresponsible to do so,,,

AGAIN< this wasn't merely about presidential depictions in media

this was about a STATE SPONSORED EVENT, where violence against the SITTING PRESIDENT was encouraged,,,


free speech is still alive and well,, just look up obamas name on a internet search or youtube followed by whatever derogatory word you like,, and see what you get,,,


as far as being compared to a chimp, the comparison is sometimes made as a reference to someones inaptitude/goofiness, and sometimes its racial,, its hard to know the difference and most presidents face some type of ridicule, or end up the brunt of some jokes

third time THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE

the event was STATE SPONSORED< and beyond just ridiculing or comparing someone to a chimp, the action involved ENCOURAGING VIOLENCE AGAINST A SITTING PRESIDENT,,,


perhaps its more about free market where those paying for an event can set limitations upon the types of behavior accepted IN THAT EVENT,,
.and no one ever called for violence against GWB in all those Effigies?



not that im aware of in any STATE SPONSORED EVENT,,,,,

but otherwise, probably, I can think of Ted Nugent to name one,,,but his wasn't an event sponsored by the STATE,, as far as I remember

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 08/17/13 11:44 AM



whoa

Are you serious? You think there was an ounce of criticism by the Democrats over the bazillions and gazillions of George Bush masks displaying the most barbaric, hate-filled depictions imaginable. Additionally, Obama has NEVER offered anything nice to say of the whites in his family. I specifically recall him speaking of his "Typical White Aunt, who, if were walking down the street and two black youths were approaching her on the same side of the street .....would have walked to the other side of the street." What a reprehensible statement by Obama. In fact, I NEVER hear any Liberal or Democrat for that matter EVER mention Obama as being half white. When the media discovered that George Zimmerman was from a Hispanic mother, suddently he went from being "white", to being a "White Hispanic" male.

There was NEVER a shred of outrage by Democrats over the heinous depictions of George Bush by the media....NEVER....it was always "Free Speech."

As for the ULTIMATE hypocrisy....I still have printed website photos with the links included that clearly depict and compare George Bush with Chimpanzees, in a side-by-side comparison. Although one of the websites has since disappeared, the name can still be found across the Internet. Although we are not supposed to post links here, all one needs to do is research bush or chimp with a dot and com or smirking chimp dot com and you will find the source of this hatred. YET, NEVER ONCE did a Liberal ever complain about a White Male being physically compared to a Chimpanzee....but apparently FREE SPEECH which was NOT directed at his skin color but simply his political policies is NOT allowed. Sensitivity training for Rodeo Clowns once again proves that Political Correctness is a Joke.




whoa


I am serious. We are not talking 'criticism over a mask'

we are talking 'criticism of openly calling for violence against a SITTING PRESIDENT at a STATE SPONSORED EVENT'


Additonally, Obama has several times over spoken about his love for his mother AND his grandparents (the whites in his family),, particularly after his grandmother died during the last election,,,



next, hispnic is an ethnicity and white is a race


the statement about 'typical' white women , particularly in a certain era, grabbing their purses when black men approached was a truthful statement made in CONTEXT of a discussion about race relations,,,and I agree, its a topic MOST presidents and politicians are fearful to even address,,,,

but its far from irresponsible to do so,,,

AGAIN< this wasn't merely about presidential depictions in media

this was about a STATE SPONSORED EVENT, where violence against the SITTING PRESIDENT was encouraged,,,


free speech is still alive and well,, just look up obamas name on a internet search or youtube followed by whatever derogatory word you like,, and see what you get,,,


as far as being compared to a chimp, the comparison is sometimes made as a reference to someones inaptitude/goofiness, and sometimes its racial,, its hard to know the difference and most presidents face some type of ridicule, or end up the brunt of some jokes

third time THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE

the event was STATE SPONSORED< and beyond just ridiculing or comparing someone to a chimp, the action involved ENCOURAGING VIOLENCE AGAINST A SITTING PRESIDENT,,,


perhaps its more about free market where those paying for an event can set limitations upon the types of behavior accepted IN THAT EVENT,,
.and no one ever called for violence against GWB in all those Effigies?



not that im aware of in any STATE SPONSORED EVENT,,,,,

but otherwise, probably, I can think of Ted Nugent to name one,,,but his wasn't an event sponsored by the STATE,, as far as I remember
Really doesn't make a bit of difference at all!slaphead

msharmony's photo
Sat 08/17/13 11:46 AM
apparently not,, sometimes people wont get the point no matter how hard you explain

TJN's photo
Sat 08/17/13 11:57 AM


The pictures that compare George Bush to Chimpanzees I just refeenced were posted on Bush or Chimp and Smirking Chimp in October of 2005......Nice try, though!!!

Even if the masks were NOT while he was President, he was a public figure way before that anyways. When a person decided to run for a Political Office and even more so, if they win, "Public Figure" status is automatically afforded that individual. Obama was both a Senator from Illinois and furthermore, an Illinois Congressman before that. Stop making excuses for the double-standard!!!



there is no double standard,, being a 'public figure' isn't the same as being the president who heads the administration that is FUNDING AN EVENT,,,,




If it was a STATE sponsored event the the president had nothing to do with the funding of it.

msharmony's photo
Sat 08/17/13 12:06 PM



The pictures that compare George Bush to Chimpanzees I just refeenced were posted on Bush or Chimp and Smirking Chimp in October of 2005......Nice try, though!!!

Even if the masks were NOT while he was President, he was a public figure way before that anyways. When a person decided to run for a Political Office and even more so, if they win, "Public Figure" status is automatically afforded that individual. Obama was both a Senator from Illinois and furthermore, an Illinois Congressman before that. Stop making excuses for the double-standard!!!



there is no double standard,, being a 'public figure' isn't the same as being the president who heads the administration that is FUNDING AN EVENT,,,,




If it was a STATE sponsored event the the president had nothing to do with the funding of it.


no matter, those GIVING The event found it undesirable for a participant to call for violence against the sitting president

there is really nothing else to compare it to,,,,

willing2's photo
Sat 08/17/13 12:35 PM
It would have been a statement of truth if the clown had filled the mask with a big load of bull droppings.

If I had been the announcer, I would have asked the audience if they wanted to see what Hussein was full of.

Again. What penalty did the announcer get for his suggesting the bull mount Barry?

SeminoleDavid's photo
Sat 08/17/13 12:41 PM
So...............let me get this right......Politicians like Sarah Palin, Chris Christie, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Rick Santorum, Jeb Bush, Nikki Haley, Rick Snyder and non-politicians like Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, Linda Chavez,....none of whom have ever been President have NOT been villified and humilated by the Left? Are you serious?

As for your remarks with regards to a "State Sponsored event"...let me ask you this....the State of Michigan and the Federal Government who ultimately, one could say is the Father of the 50 states presently bully those who oppose vouchers and school choice with their attitude..."We will run the public schools.....we will teach your children that Heather Has Two Mommies" and it is completely normal,...Global Warming also exists and We will NOT allow any reference to God or creationism in the schools. Furthermore, we will protect our inept teachers by allowing them to hide behind "tenure" and if you do NOT like these public schools, you must PAY to send your children to another school, even though we know you also pay taxes." Are you equally okay with this "State Sponsored Ongoing Tactic by the States and Federal governments?


SeminoleDavid's photo
Sat 08/17/13 12:56 PM
Did you forget about the 2006 Movie "Death of a President?" It references killing President Bush.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_a_President_(2006_film)

Did you conveniently forget those Uncle Tom remarks directed at Clarence Thomas? Did you forget what USA columnist Julianne Malveaux said with regards to Clarence Thomas......

I hope his wife feeds him [Clarence Thomas, Justice, U.S. Supreme Court] lots of eggs and butter and he dies early like many black men do, of heart disease. . . . He is an absolutely reprehensible person.

If you google Ms. Malveaux, you will notice she is black.

J. C. Watts has ALSO been villified as an "Uncle Tom."




SeminoleDavid's photo
Sat 08/17/13 12:59 PM
Burning in effigy is NOT advocating the death of someone? Are you serious? When that Iraqi reporter threw a shoe at Bush, are you telling me he was not attempting to harm him?

msharmony's photo
Sat 08/17/13 01:04 PM

So...............let me get this right......Politicians like Sarah Palin, Chris Christie, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Rick Santorum, Jeb Bush, Nikki Haley, Rick Snyder and non-politicians like Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, Linda Chavez,....none of whom have ever been President have NOT been villified and humilated by the Left? Are you serious?

As for your remarks with regards to a "State Sponsored event"...let me ask you this....the State of Michigan and the Federal Government who ultimately, one could say is the Father of the 50 states presently bully those who oppose vouchers and school choice with their attitude..."We will run the public schools.....we will teach your children that Heather Has Two Mommies" and it is completely normal,...Global Warming also exists and We will NOT allow any reference to God or creationism in the schools. Furthermore, we will protect our inept teachers by allowing them to hide behind "tenure" and if you do NOT like these public schools, you must PAY to send your children to another school, even though we know you also pay taxes." Are you equally okay with this "State Sponsored Ongoing Tactic by the States and Federal governments?




what has one to do with the other?

is the attitude all or nothing? if I agree with one thing a person/entity does or says, I must agree with EVERYTHING they do or say?


,,excuse me

but Im still missing the point here,,,

msharmony's photo
Sat 08/17/13 01:11 PM

Did you forget about the 2006 Movie "Death of a President?" It references killing President Bush.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_a_President_(2006_film)

Did you conveniently forget those Uncle Tom remarks directed at Clarence Thomas? Did you forget what USA columnist Julianne Malveaux said with regards to Clarence Thomas......

I hope his wife feeds him [Clarence Thomas, Justice, U.S. Supreme Court] lots of eggs and butter and he dies early like many black men do, of heart disease. . . . He is an absolutely reprehensible person.

If you google Ms. Malveaux, you will notice she is black.

J. C. Watts has ALSO been villified as an "Uncle Tom."






I didn't forget about death of a president,, I just never heard of it,,,,

probably because it was UNITED KINGDOM produced and released film (Bush was never president of the UK}


everything else you mention is freedom of speech, just as people have freedom of speech to say negative things, others have freedom of speech to share their opinions on it


and those who SPONSOR an event , have the right to decide which types of acts will be in it,,


its being made much more complex than it is,,,

msharmony's photo
Sat 08/17/13 01:12 PM

Burning in effigy is NOT advocating the death of someone? Are you serious? When that Iraqi reporter threw a shoe at Bush, are you telling me he was not attempting to harm him?



seriously? what are you talking about?


these things didn't happen at state sponsored events by the PAID ACTS,,,,,



SeminoleDavid's photo
Sat 08/17/13 01:20 PM
You mention that Hispanic is an ethnicity and white is a race......very interesting statement.

So, by your rationale.....the use of the "N" word is WRONG because it is a "race" even though today blacks are referenced as being African-American, even without the slightest bit of knowledge that NOT all black lineage goes back to Africa and the slave trade. In fact, by just referring to blacks as being "African-American", it is a classic stereotyping by Liberals of collectively lumping all who are black as having "African lineage." And yes indeed, it was the left who coined the term "African-American." Also, if you were to argue that all of man ultimately evolved from Africa......the problem with that statement in trying to defend calling all blacks as being "African-American" is that ....if this were the case....then EVERY AMERICAN in the U. S. could ultimately be entitled to minority status because after all....we are of African ancestry.

Back, however to my previous point.....the statement that Hispanic is an ethnicity and Black is a race is hysterical to me.

Although we all recognize the following terms...."Redneck, Honkey, Cracker, Hillbilly, Hick, Trailer Park Trash, White Trash" etc. etc....It would only seem fitting that the Whites would NOT be offended by these friendly terms, correct? Think about the those words.....each of these vile words/phrases conjure up images of the following....a person with few or no teeth, lacks a formal education, drives a pick-up trick, has a shotgun in the rear window, most likely lives in a mobile home and has sex with family members.

Certainly there is NO comparison that the N word is terrible, YET, these VILE, HATE-FILLED REMARKS are perfectly acceptable and NOT the least bit offensive, RIGHT? Surely You Jest, right?

As if it would ever enter into the lexicon ...He said the "R, H, TPT word etc....

willing2's photo
Sat 08/17/13 01:26 PM
Makes perfect sense, Mr Siminoledavid

no photo
Sat 08/17/13 01:31 PM
MSNBC's Schultz Derides NewsBusters, Urges: 'We Ought to Rip Out' Cheney's Heart

"You're damn right, Dick Cheney's heart's a political football. We ought to rip it out and kick it around and stuff it back in him. I'm glad he didn't tip over. He is the new poster child for health care in this country."


I don't think this even made the news a while back when Cheny had heart trouble.
This guys sick sick


SeminoleDavid's photo
Sat 08/17/13 01:33 PM
The point is simple.....you were excusing the insults directed against Bush because you wrongfully assumed occurred in the 1990's. I was saying....President or not at the time The point is simple, all public figures including Presidents and others....past and present as well as high-profile newsmakers/shakers are rightly or wrongly, afforded public figure status.

I can assure you that if I am allowed to post these side-by-side depictions of those websites, your entire tune would change....Bank on it.

The reason you NEVER heard of that movie is because the mainstream Washington Press Corps which is overwhelmingly Liberal and who voted for Clinton, Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Obama & Obama by nearly 90% clearly demonstrates what us Conservatives have KNOWN for decades....the mainstream media is nothing more than a tool of propaganda for the Liberals.

msharmony's photo
Sat 08/17/13 01:41 PM

You mention that Hispanic is an ethnicity and white is a race......very interesting statement.

So, by your rationale.....the use of the "N" word is WRONG because it is a "race" even though today blacks are referenced as being African-American, even without the slightest bit of knowledge that NOT all black lineage goes back to Africa and the slave trade. In fact, by just referring to blacks as being "African-American", it is a classic stereotyping by Liberals of collectively lumping all who are black as having "African lineage." And yes indeed, it was the left who coined the term "African-American." Also, if you were to argue that all of man ultimately evolved from Africa......the problem with that statement in trying to defend calling all blacks as being "African-American" is that ....if this were the case....then EVERY AMERICAN in the U. S. could ultimately be entitled to minority status because after all....we are of African ancestry.

Back, however to my previous point.....the statement that Hispanic is an ethnicity and Black is a race is hysterical to me.

Although we all recognize the following terms...."Redneck, Honkey, Cracker, Hillbilly, Hick, Trailer Park Trash, White Trash" etc. etc....It would only seem fitting that the Whites would NOT be offended by these friendly terms, correct? Think about the those words.....each of these vile words/phrases conjure up images of the following....a person with few or no teeth, lacks a formal education, drives a pick-up trick, has a shotgun in the rear window, most likely lives in a mobile home and has sex with family members.

Certainly there is NO comparison that the N word is terrible, YET, these VILE, HATE-FILLED REMARKS are perfectly acceptable and NOT the least bit offensive, RIGHT? Surely You Jest, right?

As if it would ever enter into the lexicon ...He said the "R, H, TPT word etc....


Im not sure where you are hopping around to,,

I have not alluded to any of the above things in any post in this thread,,,


Im not sure, once again, of your point,,,,