Topic: too trusting???
JohnDavidDavid's photo
Fri 09/06/13 08:24 PM
It must be terrible to live in fear that anyone could be a "stalker" or that someone could break through the "anonymity" of the Internet.

It must also limit communication.




KinBarrie's photo
Fri 09/06/13 08:28 PM

It must be terrible to live in fear that anyone could be a "stalker" or that someone could break through the "anonymity" of the Internet.

It must also limit communication.






Those hackers are pretty intelligent guys, apparently.
If they can hack into national banks and top security
departments, no one is one hundred per cent safe from
a cyberattack.

1Cynderella's photo
Fri 09/06/13 08:37 PM
I would love to give everyone the benefit of the doubt....but don't. tongue2

FearandLoathing's photo
Fri 09/06/13 08:38 PM

It must be terrible to live in fear that anyone could be a "stalker" or that someone could break through the "anonymity" of the Internet.

It must also limit communication.






Because those are very real things that happen daily, everyday someone is being stalked by someone else they met either online or in real life...Just like daily people have their identity stolen and it started with nothing more than an e-mail address.

KinBarrie's photo
Fri 09/06/13 08:40 PM

I would love to give everyone the benefit of the doubt....but don't. tongue2



Well, we can't. It's unfortunate, but that's just
the way it goes in the way of the web.:smile:

I think it's giving it time and patience, to
get to know each other well enough, to just
give out an e-mail addy or at worst, a phone
number.


AshleyKessler's photo
Fri 09/06/13 09:32 PM


It must be terrible to live in fear that anyone could be a "stalker" or that someone could break through the "anonymity" of the Internet.

It must also limit communication.






Because those are very real things that happen daily, everyday someone is being stalked by someone else they met either online or in real life...Just like daily people have their identity stolen and it started with nothing more than an e-mail address.

AshleyKessler's photo
Fri 09/06/13 09:33 PM
In Italy I had 7 older guys as stalker for 2 years. One of them hacked my email...

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Sat 09/07/13 12:05 AM

I can't believe how some people are so trusting on here.


Oh, you misread me :) Just because I talk to a few people on the forums, it in no way means I'm gullible enough to trust just anyone. Which is probably why I try my best to know people personally, first. I'm not on many social networks because I just see them as trouble. Especially when you consider how much drama there always seems to be, like when an ex views one of THEIR ex's profile's, and then decides to both befriend them and cause arguments for them. If I want to watch a bunch of drama, I'll watch The Jeremy Kyle Show. It stops there. laugh

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Sat 09/07/13 12:12 AM
One guy kept stalking me at my own home. He still is. So it can happen offline, never mind ONLINE. It actually feels more creepier when they live in the same road as you. I can't be THAT fascinating. I eat, breathe, sleep, etc, just like anyone else. It sends you into panic mode, if you think you're being stalked. I feel like Rockwell in his 'Somebody's Watching Me' video. scared

TawtStrat's photo
Sat 09/07/13 05:23 AM
There's no need to give out your email to people on here unless you want to exchange pictures and I'm not interested in doing that. I have given my email address to one friend that I have on here though because I don't want to lose touch with her if I get booted off the site, or if there's some other problem with it.

I have exchanged phone numbers with a couple of women that were interested in meeting me and I don't really have a problem with that if we are getting on well enough and if they live near enough for dating. I don't actually use a mobile phone and I'm not worried about stalkers but there are obviously a lot of scammers on here.


SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Sat 09/07/13 07:48 AM

It must be terrible to live in fear that anyone could be a "stalker" or that someone could break through the "anonymity" of the Internet.

It must also limit communication.

You're a very black & white person, aren't you?
I mean, really ...
Being careful doesn't mean you live in fear. It's called "Common sense".
It also doesn't limit communication. There's plenty of means to communicate without giving out your phone nr or email address.
So common sense and being realistic as well: not everyone is trustworthy and internet has made our social circles quite a lot larger.
Before the net, we only needed to worry about the locks on our doors and we all would be aware if those got tempered with. Virtual locks are different. Most of us don't really know how they work, so most of us probably wouldn't even notice if someone broke down a virtual door.

KinBarrie's photo
Sat 09/07/13 08:14 AM

One guy kept stalking me at my own home. He still is. So it can happen offline, never mind ONLINE. It actually feels more creepier when they live in the same road as you. I can't be THAT fascinating. I eat, breathe, sleep, etc, just like anyone else. It sends you into panic mode, if you think you're being stalked. I feel like Rockwell in his 'Somebody's Watching Me' video. scared



That is crazy! The law should be a lot less lenient on
stalkers.

KinBarrie's photo
Sat 09/07/13 08:17 AM

In Italy I had 7 older guys as stalker for 2 years. One of them hacked my email...


It is a good thing you got out of Italy then!surprised

How old were these guys 30s 40s

Could not get the question marks in. Darn Dell laptop!explode


Gkkarthik's photo
Sat 09/07/13 08:35 AM
hi

TawtStrat's photo
Sat 09/07/13 08:47 AM


One guy kept stalking me at my own home. He still is. So it can happen offline, never mind ONLINE. It actually feels more creepier when they live in the same road as you. I can't be THAT fascinating. I eat, breathe, sleep, etc, just like anyone else. It sends you into panic mode, if you think you're being stalked. I feel like Rockwell in his 'Somebody's Watching Me' video. scared



That is crazy! The law should be a lot less lenient on
stalkers.


What makes you say that? I'm unable to find anything particularly crazy in this story and the lady actually gives no details about his stalking at all. She's English I think and there are laws against breaking and entering but I don't think that there's any law against trespassing as such in the UK, or that may just be Scotland; I'm not sure. If someone is guilty of antisocial behaviour there are things that you can do about it, depending on what it is but merely following someone about or looking through a window isn't a crime as far as I'm aware. Harassment is interfering with someone when they are going about their lawful business but it isn't merely watching them doing it.

I've got neighbors that watch me as well. One of them even has a CCTV camera and he can follow all of my comings and goings if he chooses to and it may be a bit crazy but I don't expect the law to do anything about it and why should I?




KinBarrie's photo
Sat 09/07/13 09:02 AM
Tawt, it's an invasion of privacy. Being anti social has nothing to
do with someone going onto someones property, looking through their
window. No one should have the right to look at you with a CCTV
camera. Not a physical attack or invasion, but still a psychological
invasion. A mental game, where the perpetrator is like a cat, and the
victim feels like a helpless mouse.


True, she didn't go into detail about the stalkings. Still,
there was enough detail to show how odd it is. 7 older men.
Not one, but seven!noway

no photo
Sat 09/07/13 09:29 AM


That is crazy! The law should be a lot less lenient on
stalkers.


I just don't understand why people do that. Can't they just get on with their own business? I know how I almost ended up because of it. So, if it goes too far, I'm not sure I can stop them. This may sound silly, but seeing as there's meant to be government spies, spying on people's internet use, then I kind of hope one would see what I type, so that they could order some force of protection for me outside of my home. I'm agoraphobic, so the last thing I need is to not want to go outside because I feel inferior. I want to be able to feel I can do my own shopping, but your brain warns you against it. You know it's not being logical, but your instinct tells you not to go outside incase something bad will happen.

KinBarrie's photo
Sat 09/07/13 09:52 AM



That is crazy! The law should be a lot less lenient on
stalkers.


I just don't understand why people do that. Can't they just get on with their own business? I know how I almost ended up because of it. So, if it goes too far, I'm not sure I can stop them. This may sound silly, but seeing as there's meant to be government spies, spying on people's internet use, then I kind of hope one would see what I type, so that they could order some force of protection for me outside of my home. I'm agoraphobic, so the last thing I need is to not want to go outside because I feel inferior. I want to be able to feel I can do my own shopping, but your brain warns you against it. You know it's not being logical, but your instinct tells you not to go outside incase something bad will happen.


So sorry to hear you are going through a hard time right now,
Rawwrr girl,with the stalker and agoraphobia.sad2 Try to stay
positive, and everything should work out fine.

Do you think it was the stalking initially that caused your
agoraphobia You should call the cops on this guy if he gets
too pushy.

TawtStrat's photo
Sat 09/07/13 10:00 AM

Tawt, it's an invasion of privacy. Being anti social has nothing to
do with someone going onto someones property, looking through their
window. No one should have the right to look at you with a CCTV
camera. Not a physical attack or invasion, but still a psychological
invasion. A mental game, where the perpetrator is like a cat, and the
victim feels like a helpless mouse.


True, she didn't go into detail about the stalkings. Still,
there was enough detail to show how odd it is. 7 older men.
Not one, but seven!noway


My neighbor watches everyone in the street with his CCTV camera. It's not really any different from him looking out of his window and he arguably does a service to the community by keeping watch on what's going on. You can't avoid it these days and anyone can use a phone to film you. I believe that was how they tracked down the Boston bombers and every time there's a major crime now, someone probably was there with some sort of camera to film it.

If you don't want people looking through your windows there's these things that some people use called curtains to protect their privacy. There is no law against trespassing in Scotland but you can be done for breaking into someone's property or damaging or stealing it. Also, there are laws against loitering with intent and disturbing the peace. I don't know what you mean when you say that it has nothing to do with antisocial behaviour, as that is just another word for crime. There are specific things that people that are being harassed can do though, like taking out injunctions.

The term "stalking" is hopelessly vague and I am afraid that you can't have people arrested by the police merely because they make you feel uneasy. They need to commit a specific crime and it isn't that the police don't take sex offences seriously because they do but there is no crime in just looking at someone.

KinBarrie's photo
Sat 09/07/13 10:17 AM


Tawt, it's an invasion of privacy. Being anti social has nothing to
do with someone going onto someones property, looking through their
window. No one should have the right to look at you with a CCTV
camera. Not a physical attack or invasion, but still a psychological
invasion. A mental game, where the perpetrator is like a cat, and the
victim feels like a helpless mouse.


True, she didn't go into detail about the stalkings. Still,
there was enough detail to show how odd it is. 7 older men.
Not one, but seven!noway


My neighbor watches everyone in the street with his CCTV camera. It's not really any different from him looking out of his window and he arguably does a service to the community by keeping watch on what's going on. You can't avoid it these days and anyone can use a phone to film you. I believe that was how they tracked down the Boston bombers and every time there's a major crime now, someone probably was there with some sort of camera to film it.

If you don't want people looking through your windows there's these things that some people use called curtains to protect their privacy. There is no law against trespassing in Scotland but you can be done for breaking into someone's property or damaging or stealing it. Also, there are laws against loitering with intent and disturbing the peace. I don't know what you mean when you say that it has nothing to do with antisocial behaviour, as that is just another word for crime. There are specific things that people that are being harassed can do though, like taking out injunctions.

The term "stalking" is hopelessly vague and I am afraid that you can't have people arrested by the police merely because they make you feel uneasy. They need to commit a specific crime and it isn't that the police don't take sex offences seriously because they do but there is no crime in just looking at someone.


If no one can get arrested in Scotland for trespassing, there
must be a lot of fights going on.laugh

I find nothing wrong with someone taking a glance in ones
window. Putting ones face up to it, and looking every which
way, yeah thats a little too much.

The man is doing a good service by keeping a community
watch, just hope he doesnt go to far with the passing
lasses going by.laugh