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to each their own I don't think its 'trash' to reduce the risks of peoples lives being torn upside down from an illness or reduce the difficulty people who are actually ILL have in finding affordable healthcare or share the costs of the healthcare system which takes great hits from all the uninsured who still legally go into medical rooms and hospitals across the country to get care without any way of paying the providers,, but that's me How much will you be paying for your coverage? depends upon what my income is ,, like anyone else... At this time.... How much will Obozocare be costing you per month? the same as its been costing under the employee plan,, Which is? not that its anyones business, but its currently under 300 per month,,, And how much is subsidized? wth dude? none of it, its an employer plan, taking out of my pay,, |
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Sojourning_Soul
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Wed 10/09/13 11:06 AM
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to each their own I don't think its 'trash' to reduce the risks of peoples lives being torn upside down from an illness or reduce the difficulty people who are actually ILL have in finding affordable healthcare or share the costs of the healthcare system which takes great hits from all the uninsured who still legally go into medical rooms and hospitals across the country to get care without any way of paying the providers,, but that's me How much will you be paying for your coverage? depends upon what my income is ,, like anyone else... At this time.... How much will Obozocare be costing you per month? the same as its been costing under the employee plan,, Which is? not that its anyones business, but its currently under 300 per month,,, And how much is subsidized? wth dude? none of it, its an employer plan, taking out of my pay,, I find that a little hard to believe. I know plenty who are working, w/benefits, and none of them will be paying less than twice that now on the exchanges, and their deductibles tripled or more |
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msharmony
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Wed 10/09/13 11:07 AM
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to each their own I don't think its 'trash' to reduce the risks of peoples lives being torn upside down from an illness or reduce the difficulty people who are actually ILL have in finding affordable healthcare or share the costs of the healthcare system which takes great hits from all the uninsured who still legally go into medical rooms and hospitals across the country to get care without any way of paying the providers,, but that's me How much will you be paying for your coverage? depends upon what my income is ,, like anyone else... At this time.... How much will Obozocare be costing you per month? the same as its been costing under the employee plan,, Which is? not that its anyones business, but its currently under 300 per month,,, And how much is subsidized? wth dude? none of it, its an employer plan, taking out of my pay,, I find that a little hard to believe. I know plenty who are working, w/benefits, and none of them will be paying less than twice that now on the exchanges, and their deductables tripled I know plenty who are working too, with no changes to the plans they enrolled in,,, but I don't know many extremely well off, so perhaps income bracket plays a part,,,,right now though, the plan of my employee takes nearly 20 percent of my pay an exchange plane would run me about 3 percent,,, |
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to each their own I don't think its 'trash' to reduce the risks of peoples lives being torn upside down from an illness or reduce the difficulty people who are actually ILL have in finding affordable healthcare or share the costs of the healthcare system which takes great hits from all the uninsured who still legally go into medical rooms and hospitals across the country to get care without any way of paying the providers,, but that's me How much will you be paying for your coverage? depends upon what my income is ,, like anyone else... At this time.... How much will Obozocare be costing you per month? the same as its been costing under the employee plan,, Which is? not that its anyones business, but its currently under 300 per month,,, And how much is subsidized? wth dude? none of it, its an employer plan, taking out of my pay,, I find that a little hard to believe. I know plenty who are working, w/benefits, and none of them will be paying less than twice that now on the exchanges, and their deductables tripled I know plenty who are working too, with no changes to the plans they enrolled in,,, yet...... |
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msharmony
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Wed 10/09/13 11:09 AM
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time will tell
my folks and friends did better financially than most I know of my generation or younger they are not seeing changes to their plans in terms of price and they are also in support of the reform,, and plenty who do see a difference are not in objection to their increase in return for knowing others will be helped who previously werent |
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time will tell my folks and friends did better financially than most I know of my generation or younger they are not seeing changes to their plans in terms of price and they are also in support of the reform,, and plenty who do see a difference are not in objection to their increase in return for knowing others will be helped who previously werent I seriously don't know what world you are living in, but everyone I know has nothing but complaints about the effects to their coverages and costs |
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time will tell my folks and friends did better financially than most I know of my generation or younger they are not seeing changes to their plans in terms of price and they are also in support of the reform,, and plenty who do see a difference are not in objection to their increase in return for knowing others will be helped who previously werent I seriously don't know what world you are living in, but everyone I know has nothing but complaints about the effects to their coverages and costs that isn't surprising we tend to flock with like minded individuals,,, |
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time will tell my folks and friends did better financially than most I know of my generation or younger they are not seeing changes to their plans in terms of price and they are also in support of the reform,, and plenty who do see a difference are not in objection to their increase in return for knowing others will be helped who previously werent |
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time will tell my folks and friends did better financially than most I know of my generation or younger they are not seeing changes to their plans in terms of price and they are also in support of the reform,, and plenty who do see a difference are not in objection to their increase in return for knowing others will be helped who previously werent  I think many will see insurance trying to milk this situation to raise costs and blame someone else but most who actually look into their exchange options I think will be pleasantly surprised,,, |
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My cousin currently pays about $500 for his family through his employer, once obozocare kicks in he will be paying $900 a month. A friend looked up how he will be paying for his family, he smokes so his will be $1054 per month. Sounds affordable to me. |
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The United States is one of only three developed nations that doesn't have universal health care. The other two are Mexico and Turkey. Should that embarrass American citizens? Absolutely! Does it? Apparently not.
I guess the next question should be, what's wrong with Americans? I wish I knew. The only opposition to Obamacare should be that it doesn't go far enough, that it should be a single payer system at the very least. I have an English half-sister. She's lived in England since she was a little girl, but she's retained her American citizenship, and she doesn't understand why the United States doesn't embrace nationalized health care. Sure, she finds plenty wrong with England's health care system, but she's very grateful that it at least has one that turns no one away and doesn't bankrupt people just because they're injured or happen to fall ill. Meanwhile, here in the US, we're left with the most expensive healthcare in the world, yet one that offers only mediocre results for its citizens. Mention this to your elected representatives, and you'll either be ingored, or receive some nonsensical reply explaining why that won't work in America. Bullsh__! The United States can do better when it comes to healthcare, and it should do better. Wake up and see it for what it is: the most successful scam on Earth! |
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msharmony
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Wed 10/09/13 01:44 PM
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My cousin currently pays about $500 for his family through his employer, once obozocare kicks in he will be paying $900 a month. A friend looked up how he will be paying for his family, he smokes so his will be $1054 per month. Sounds affordable to me. insurers are in charge of what they charge for tobacco, there is no mandate in obamacare requiring them to do so and he must make a good penny too two adults and three children would be paying 900 per month for an income of 100 grand which comes to about 12 percent of the income,, which still beats my employers rate of 20percent of mine,,, |
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The United States is one of only three developed nations that doesn't have universal health care. The other two are Mexico and Turkey. Should that embarrass American citizens? Absolutely! Does it? Apparently not. I guess the next question should be, what's wrong with Americans? I wish I knew. The only opposition to Obamacare should be that it doesn't go far enough, that it should be a single payer system at the very least. I have an English half-sister. She's lived in England since she was a little girl, but she's retained her American citizenship, and she doesn't understand why the United States doesn't embrace nationalized health care. Sure, she finds plenty wrong with England's health care system, but she's very grateful that it at least has one that turns no one away and doesn't bankrupt people just because they're injured or happen to fall ill. Meanwhile, here in the US, we're left with the most expensive healthcare in the world, yet one that offers only mediocre results for its citizens. Mention this to your elected representatives, and you'll either be ingored, or receive some nonsensical reply explaining why that won't work in America. Bullsh__! The United States can do better when it comes to healthcare, and it should do better. Wake up and see it for what it is: the most successful scam on Earth! I will explain why, the reganesque surviving stereotype of those in need living high off of the hog while being lazy and forcing 'hard working' to pay for it there will always be americans believing that is the status quo of those in need,, and resenting that their money may in any way be being 'forced' from them to assist such people,,,, |
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Obamacare Is a Raw Deal for Millennials It's clear that millennials will be hammered by Obamacare, but most of the analyses wending their way through the media understate the negative impact the law will have on the cost and quality of health insurance for these 20- and 30-somethings. The problem is that Obamacare, also known as the Affordable Care Act, takes money from a variety of pockets, and many or most of the flurry of analyses focus on insurance premiums in isolation. Millennials' life prospects have already suffered under the weight of the Great Recession and its aftermath. Their job markets are shaky and their student loans large. Now, large health insurance premiums and other costs hidden in the ACA will further dim those prospects. http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/economic-intelligence/2013/10/07/obamacare-exchange-costs-are-a-bad-deal-for-millennials |
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/heather-smith/the-millenial-generation_b_318785.html an OPINION PIECE,, countering the above OPINION PIECE |
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My cousin currently pays about $500 for his family through his employer, once obozocare kicks in he will be paying $900 a month. A friend looked up how he will be paying for his family, he smokes so his will be $1054 per month. Sounds affordable to me. insurers are in charge of what they charge for tobacco, there is no mandate in obamacare requiring them to do so and he must make a good penny too two adults and three children would be paying 900 per month for an income of 100 grand which comes to about 12 percent of the income,, which still beats my employers rate of 20percent of mine,,, My friend takes care of his wife and gets paid by the state $23,000 a year. My cousin makes nowhere near 100k and has 4 kids. You can keep on trying turn **** into honey, obozocare sucks. |
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insurers are in charge of what they charge for tobacco, there is no mandate in obamacare requiring them to do so Obozjackasso should have included caps on premiums, but insurance companies paid the democrats not to do that. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 10/10/13 03:24 AM
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My cousin currently pays about $500 for his family through his employer, once obozocare kicks in he will be paying $900 a month. A friend looked up how he will be paying for his family, he smokes so his will be $1054 per month. Sounds affordable to me. insurers are in charge of what they charge for tobacco, there is no mandate in obamacare requiring them to do so and he must make a good penny too two adults and three children would be paying 900 per month for an income of 100 grand which comes to about 12 percent of the income,, which still beats my employers rate of 20percent of mine,,, My friend takes care of his wife and gets paid by the state $23,000 a year. My cousin makes nowhere near 100k and has 4 kids. You can keep on trying turn **** into honey, obozocare sucks. then youre cousin is mistaken or lying at 60000 'obamacare' subsidizes 53 percent of the cost and he would pay 5700 per year, or 475 amonth,,,,about 10 percent of the income anyone can go put their numbers in for themselves,,, http://kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/#state=&zip=&income-type=dollars&income=60000&employer-coverage=0&people=2&adult-count=2&adults%5B0%5D%5Bage%5D=45&adults%5B0%5D%5Btobacco%5D=1&adults%5B1%5D%5Bage%5D=44&adults%5B1%5D%5Btobacco%5D=0&child-count=3&child-tobacco=0 |
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My cousin currently pays about $500 for his family through his employer, once obozocare kicks in he will be paying $900 a month. A friend looked up how he will be paying for his family, he smokes so his will be $1054 per month. Sounds affordable to me. insurers are in charge of what they charge for tobacco, there is no mandate in obamacare requiring them to do so and he must make a good penny too two adults and three children would be paying 900 per month for an income of 100 grand which comes to about 12 percent of the income,, which still beats my employers rate of 20percent of mine,,, My friend takes care of his wife and gets paid by the state $23,000 a year. My cousin makes nowhere near 100k and has 4 kids. You can keep on trying turn **** into honey, obozocare sucks. then youre cousin is mistaken or lying at 60000 'obamacare' subsidizes 53 percent of the cost and he would pay 5700 per year, or 475 amonth,,,,about 10 percent of the income anyone can go put their numbers in for themselves,,, http://kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/#state=&zip=&income-type=dollars&income=60000&employer-coverage=0&people=2&adult-count=2&adults%5B0%5D%5Bage%5D=45&adults%5B0%5D%5Btobacco%5D=1&adults%5B1%5D%5Bage%5D=44&adults%5B1%5D%5Btobacco%5D=0&child-count=3&child-tobacco=0 No, you just feel its your duty to defend the jackass in chief and blow smoke up everyone's butt. |
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