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 http://www.wfaa.com/news/world/mandela-ceremony-interpreter-called-a-fake-sign-language-235401461.html JOHANNESBURG (AP) — A man who appeared to provide sign language interpretation on stage for Nelson Mandela's memorial service, attended by scores of heads of state, was a "fake," the national director of the Deaf Federation of South Africa said on Wednesday. The scandal over the interpreter is another indication of bad organization of the historic memorial service at a huge soccer stadium on Tuesday. Other difficulties included public transportation breakdowns which hindered mourners from getting to the event and a faulty audio system that prevented many of the tens of thousands in the stadium from hearing the leaders' speeches. In an apparent security failure, police did not search the first wave of crowds arriving at the stadium. The unidentified man seen around the world on television next to leaders including United States President Barack Obama "was moving his hands around but there was no meaning in what he used his hands for," Bruno Druchen, the federation's national director, told The Associated Press. Collins Chabane, one of South Africa's two presidency ministers, said the government is investigating the matter but has not finished yet because it has been overwhelmed with work preparing for Mandela's funeral Sunday in his hometown of Qunu. Four sign language experts, including Druchen, said the man was not signing in South African or American sign languages and could not have been signing in any other known sign language because there was no structure to his arm and hand movements. South African sign language covers all of the country's 11 official languages, according to the federation. Ingrid Parkin, principal of the St. Vincent School for the Deaf in Johannesburg, said she's received complaints from the deaf community from Canada to China about the man on stage and that his movements look "like he's signing gibberish." He also used no facial expression to convey the emotions of the leaders, a key element of sign language interpretation. "This man himself knows he cannot sign and he had the guts to stand on an international stage and do that," Parkin said. Nicole Du Toit, an official sign language interpreter who also watched the broadcast, said in a telephone interview that the man on stage purporting to sign was an embarrassment. "It was horrible, an absolute circus, really, really bad," she said. "Only he can understand those gestures." The man also did sign interpretation at an event last year that was attended by South African President Jacob Zuma, Druchen said. At that appearance, a deaf person in the audience videotaped the event and gave it to the federation for the deaf, which analyzed the video, prepared a report about it and a submitted a formal complaint to the ANC, Druchen said. In their complaint, the federation suggested that the man should take the five years of training needed to become a qualified sign language interpreter in South Africa. But the ANC never responded, Druchen said. Druchen said a fresh complaint will be filed to the ANC about the interpreter he called a "fake" with a demand for an urgent meeting. "We want to make a statement that this is a warning to other sign language interpreters who are fake and go about interpreting," Druchen said. "I am hoping the South African government will take notice of this." Bogus sign language interpreters are a problem in South Africa, because people who know a few signs try to pass themselves off as interpreters, said Parkin, the principal of the school for the deaf. And those hiring them usually don't sign, so they have no idea that the people they are hiring cannot do the job, she said. "They advertise themselves as interpreters because they know 10 signs and they can make some quick money," said Parkin. "It is plain and simple abuse of the deaf community, they are taking advantage of the deaf community to make money."  |
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 Dear Comrades, While presiding over the funeral of Comrade President Nelson Mandela, Comrade Party Chairman Barack Barackovich Obama introduced a new form of Sign Language, which will be used to unite all the Peoples of the World into a single communication system equally significant to all. The secret to learning the Progressive Sign Language System is in the realization that the viewer brings his own meaning to the gestures, and that each signer uses her own feelings to determine the meaning of her gestures. The truth of what is being sent and what is being received is entirely subjective, thus allowing for greater freedom from possible conflict and misunderstanding. What the other person is communicating or receiving is not as important as how one feels. Party official say this will also help State Security forces track down those with non-conformist and reactionary tendencies, since their communications will be subject to proper interpretation by Party members rather than some strained attempt at ‘objectivity.’ After being screened by South African security forces and our own Party’s Secret Socialist Security agents, Progressive Sign Language courageously translated through several hours of speeches from notable Socialist leaders from throughout the world. In a salute to the translator’s efforts, Comrade Obama also demonstrated his own sign language skills by bowing to and shaking the hand of Comrade President Raul Castro of the People’s Democratic Socialist Republic of Cuba. The new Progressive Sign Language System is revolutionary, because it a complete break with the tyranny of traditional signing systems and introduces new gestures organized in a completely new grammatical system, derived largely from the text of the Affordable Healthcare Act, which some are comparing to the ‘Rosetta Stone’ in terms of helping the world move into this new way of expressing truth. This new system transcends language barriers and will help usher in a new era of international equality for all hearing impaired world citizens. Workers and peasants of the USSA embrace the Progressive Sign Language System! Language is subjective, and our feelings are what is most important! Faithfully submitted to the Collective of the People’s Cube, Comrade Nomenklatura-climber Dialectical Progressivism Translator 
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Sojourning_Soul
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Thu 12/12/13 09:27 AM
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Even HuffPo has an article on it  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/12/mandela-ceremony-interpreter_n_4430973.html I was trying to find the Jimmy Kimmel bit I saw earlier where he brought in a "signer" to translate...... funny stuff. Like Obozo, this guy had no idea what he was saying.... he'll probably hire him if he's found
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Edited by
Lpdon
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Thu 12/12/13 04:22 PM
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http://www.wfaa.com/news/world/mandela-ceremony-interpreter-called-a-fake-sign-language-235401461.html JOHANNESBURG (AP) — A man who appeared to provide sign language interpretation on stage for Nelson Mandela's memorial service, attended by scores of heads of state, was a "fake," the national director of the Deaf Federation of South Africa said on Wednesday. The scandal over the interpreter is another indication of bad organization of the historic memorial service at a huge soccer stadium on Tuesday. Other difficulties included public transportation breakdowns which hindered mourners from getting to the event and a faulty audio system that prevented many of the tens of thousands in the stadium from hearing the leaders' speeches. In an apparent security failure, police did not search the first wave of crowds arriving at the stadium. The unidentified man seen around the world on television next to leaders including United States President Barack Obama "was moving his hands around but there was no meaning in what he used his hands for," Bruno Druchen, the federation's national director, told The Associated Press. Collins Chabane, one of South Africa's two presidency ministers, said the government is investigating the matter but has not finished yet because it has been overwhelmed with work preparing for Mandela's funeral Sunday in his hometown of Qunu. Four sign language experts, including Druchen, said the man was not signing in South African or American sign languages and could not have been signing in any other known sign language because there was no structure to his arm and hand movements. South African sign language covers all of the country's 11 official languages, according to the federation. Ingrid Parkin, principal of the St. Vincent School for the Deaf in Johannesburg, said she's received complaints from the deaf community from Canada to China about the man on stage and that his movements look "like he's signing gibberish." He also used no facial expression to convey the emotions of the leaders, a key element of sign language interpretation. "This man himself knows he cannot sign and he had the guts to stand on an international stage and do that," Parkin said. Nicole Du Toit, an official sign language interpreter who also watched the broadcast, said in a telephone interview that the man on stage purporting to sign was an embarrassment. "It was horrible, an absolute circus, really, really bad," she said. "Only he can understand those gestures." The man also did sign interpretation at an event last year that was attended by South African President Jacob Zuma, Druchen said. At that appearance, a deaf person in the audience videotaped the event and gave it to the federation for the deaf, which analyzed the video, prepared a report about it and a submitted a formal complaint to the ANC, Druchen said. In their complaint, the federation suggested that the man should take the five years of training needed to become a qualified sign language interpreter in South Africa. But the ANC never responded, Druchen said. Druchen said a fresh complaint will be filed to the ANC about the interpreter he called a "fake" with a demand for an urgent meeting. "We want to make a statement that this is a warning to other sign language interpreters who are fake and go about interpreting," Druchen said. "I am hoping the South African government will take notice of this." Bogus sign language interpreters are a problem in South Africa, because people who know a few signs try to pass themselves off as interpreters, said Parkin, the principal of the school for the deaf. And those hiring them usually don't sign, so they have no idea that the people they are hiring cannot do the job, she said. "They advertise themselves as interpreters because they know 10 signs and they can make some quick money," said Parkin. "It is plain and simple abuse of the deaf community, they are taking advantage of the deaf community to make money." Notice how this comes out right after Obama comes under fire for disgusting, selfish and tasteless actions at the same Funeral. Nice way to divert attention for a POS embarrassment of a President. |
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The really strange thing is, I understood him.
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alleoops
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Thu 12/12/13 05:10 PM
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Signer for Mandela memorial service: "I was hallucinating". The sign language interpreter who shared the stage with President Obama and others at Nelson Mandela's memorial is defending his abilities, after being accused of being a fake. Debora Patta reports from Pretoria. http://news.yahoo.com/video/signer-mandela-memorial-hallucinating-144745331-cbs.html |
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White House hires part-time schizophrenic Mandela sign interpreter to help sell Obamacare
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White House hires part-time schizophrenic Mandela sign interpreter to help sell Obamacare Could happen with this admin....and Obozo would probably commend him for a job well done as is his style..... until he throws them under the bus |
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msharmony
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http://www.wfaa.com/news/world/mandela-ceremony-interpreter-called-a-fake-sign-language-235401461.html JOHANNESBURG (AP) — A man who appeared to provide sign language interpretation on stage for Nelson Mandela's memorial service, attended by scores of heads of state, was a "fake," the national director of the Deaf Federation of South Africa said on Wednesday. The scandal over the interpreter is another indication of bad organization of the historic memorial service at a huge soccer stadium on Tuesday. Other difficulties included public transportation breakdowns which hindered mourners from getting to the event and a faulty audio system that prevented many of the tens of thousands in the stadium from hearing the leaders' speeches. In an apparent security failure, police did not search the first wave of crowds arriving at the stadium. The unidentified man seen around the world on television next to leaders including United States President Barack Obama "was moving his hands around but there was no meaning in what he used his hands for," Bruno Druchen, the federation's national director, told The Associated Press. Collins Chabane, one of South Africa's two presidency ministers, said the government is investigating the matter but has not finished yet because it has been overwhelmed with work preparing for Mandela's funeral Sunday in his hometown of Qunu. Four sign language experts, including Druchen, said the man was not signing in South African or American sign languages and could not have been signing in any other known sign language because there was no structure to his arm and hand movements. South African sign language covers all of the country's 11 official languages, according to the federation. Ingrid Parkin, principal of the St. Vincent School for the Deaf in Johannesburg, said she's received complaints from the deaf community from Canada to China about the man on stage and that his movements look "like he's signing gibberish." He also used no facial expression to convey the emotions of the leaders, a key element of sign language interpretation. "This man himself knows he cannot sign and he had the guts to stand on an international stage and do that," Parkin said. Nicole Du Toit, an official sign language interpreter who also watched the broadcast, said in a telephone interview that the man on stage purporting to sign was an embarrassment. "It was horrible, an absolute circus, really, really bad," she said. "Only he can understand those gestures." The man also did sign interpretation at an event last year that was attended by South African President Jacob Zuma, Druchen said. At that appearance, a deaf person in the audience videotaped the event and gave it to the federation for the deaf, which analyzed the video, prepared a report about it and a submitted a formal complaint to the ANC, Druchen said. In their complaint, the federation suggested that the man should take the five years of training needed to become a qualified sign language interpreter in South Africa. But the ANC never responded, Druchen said. Druchen said a fresh complaint will be filed to the ANC about the interpreter he called a "fake" with a demand for an urgent meeting. "We want to make a statement that this is a warning to other sign language interpreters who are fake and go about interpreting," Druchen said. "I am hoping the South African government will take notice of this." Bogus sign language interpreters are a problem in South Africa, because people who know a few signs try to pass themselves off as interpreters, said Parkin, the principal of the school for the deaf. And those hiring them usually don't sign, so they have no idea that the people they are hiring cannot do the job, she said. "They advertise themselves as interpreters because they know 10 signs and they can make some quick money," said Parkin. "It is plain and simple abuse of the deaf community, they are taking advantage of the deaf community to make money." Notice how this comes out right after Obama comes under fire for disgusting, selfish and tasteless actions at the same Funeral. Nice way to divert attention for a POS embarrassment of a President. THIS WAS NOT THE FUNERAL that being said, we watched the memorial here and he only made the same four or five gestures over and over,, he was not interpreting anything and IM not sure how he got where he was,, unless in fact this was an anomaly of his USUAL skills,, never having seen him before, I don't really know,, but there is also report of previous complaints so if there were other better qualified applicants for this type of event, they certainly should have been there instead of him |
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The guy is a violent schizophrenic according to his own words.
How did he make it through the screening of our secret service? EPIC FAIL |
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The guy is a violent schizophrenic according to his own words. How did he make it through the screening of our secret service? EPIC FAIL I don't know how much access they have to the planning of a south African event,, or records of south African nationals,, but if they did have the option to screen,, and access to those types of records, they failed if not,, those in the SA responsible for screening failed,, |
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Oh come on the poor guy didn't have a tele-promter to blame it on.
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unfortunately,, maybe he should have
in an event or speech that is of any length,, it helps having notes on paper or teleprompter or whatever medium to prevent (unprofessional) slip ups,,,,, always have a back up,,, |
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The guy is a violent schizophrenic according to his own words. How did he make it through the screening of our secret service? EPIC FAIL Large crowds were allowed to gather in front of where Obama sat, with no visible security nearby. When Obama made his way to the stage to deliver his speech, a South African sign-language interpreter stood an arm's length away. This man later described himself as schizophrenic with violent tendencies, and he reportedly was accused of murder 10 years ago, according to the national eNCA TV news station in South Africa. Secret Service officials say the South African government was responsible for the decision to place interpreter Thamsanqa Jantjie just inches from some of the most powerful people in the world during a four-hour memorial service. |
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unfortunately,, maybe he should have in an event or speech that is of any length,, it helps having notes on paper or teleprompter or whatever medium to prevent (unprofessional) slip ups,,,,, always have a back up,,, This is off topic but I seem to remember liberals slamming Sarah Palin for having notes on her hand during one of her speeches. |
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unfortunately,, maybe he should have in an event or speech that is of any length,, it helps having notes on paper or teleprompter or whatever medium to prevent (unprofessional) slip ups,,,,, always have a back up,,, This is off topic but I seem to remember liberals slamming Sarah Palin for having notes on her hand during one of her speeches. I don't think it was during a speech, but a debate,,where one is not speaking for long lengths or exclusively, but participating in a discussion and even then, writing on a hand is not back up as hands perspire and aren't really a reliable source of reviewing information due to the probability of the information being disturbed or unclear I really wouldn't care about her hand though, if it wasn't also backed up by her apparent lack of knowledge on so many pretty important things when she was on her own and unscripted,,, |
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unfortunately,, maybe he should have in an event or speech that is of any length,, it helps having notes on paper or teleprompter or whatever medium to prevent (unprofessional) slip ups,,,,, always have a back up,,, This is off topic but I seem to remember liberals slamming Sarah Palin for having notes on her hand during one of her speeches. I don't think it was during a speech, but a debate,,where one is not speaking for long lengths or exclusively, but participating in a discussion and even then, writing on a hand is not back up as hands perspire and aren't really a reliable source of reviewing information due to the probability of the information being disturbed or unclear I really wouldn't care about her hand though, if it wasn't also backed up by her apparent lack of knowledge on so many pretty important things when she was on her own and unscripted,,, I'm not a Palin "promoter" but what was her apparent lack of knowledge on? |
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I Remember her saying something in a debate about the vice president helping senate pass policy
remember her not knowing what Hamas is or the Bush Doctrine tbere were several, I don't have them all memorized, these are the first that come to mind,,, |
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I Remember her saying something in a debate about the vice president helping senate pass policy remember her not knowing what Hamas is or the Bush Doctrine tbere were several, I don't have them all memorized, these are the first that come to mind,,, I don't recall those. I guess at some point all candidates have memory lapses. It's only human. |
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