But let's consider this in the context of short-sighted men avoiding spats with women they supposedly admire.

First off, one of the ethical 'dilemmas' men face in long-term relationships is choosing whether or not to admit to their partners that they're not beautiful anymore at some point when either youth fades or life takes its toll and the supermodel bod begins to vanish.

This has to be one of the easiest problems to deal with regarding honesty with your partner. Because for one, beauty is a personal thing. People are attracted to different people for different reasons, and pop magazines have nothing to do with it. And while there are general rules of attraction that do govern what a person is attracted to to some extent (like symmetry), a woman that a man loves and cares for and shares intimacy with over time will become beautiful to their man in a deeply personal way that transcends their girl's looks so that no matter how they look- the feeling that 'this is the most beautiful person on earth' remains the same, provided that man is not destroying the relationship by wasting away their lives on porn and cheating with other people or otherwise being a conceited douchebag to the person they supposedly loved.

So even if a lover becomes old and haggard, or loses some of that supermodel flair, a man who loves that person in sincerity without deviation will find with the passage of time not a diminishing, but a flourishing and growth in the beauty of the woman he loves. He can sincerely say under any circumstance that,"You are beautiful." Because to him she is just that. Societal standards be damned, they change with the breeze anyway.

The harder part of honesty is being open about *who* you are, and what kind of life you lead. Because smart girls, the ones who are honest with themselves, will not worship at the altars of neanderthals, cheats, and scum no matter how much they're packing on their biceps or their abdominal area, or even their wallets. The trick here is to then is to wiz-en up, and rather than focusing on being the next Apollos, the thing is to become a good man, full of and becoming better in the characteristics that guide actions to a destination that is rich in love and affection, in giving oneself and not thinking of what you'll get back. Then relationships grow unabated, then honesty flows like a river whose damn just broke, because what's there to fear?

So be good, be your best self, and then honesty will flow as naturally as the inevitable affection you've secured for each other by your wise actions. =)

Of course, I could be wrong. But I seriously doubt it.

@ Izzy, That's exactly the problem. Murderer's, scumbag's, rapist's, paedo's, all still get women because they're *cough* "Hot". . Yuck. Those type of "I'd shag any guy with a pulse" women, obviously look past all the warning sign's. And I still feel sick just thinking about it.

This Mark dude, has a wise head on him. He's fully aware of how REAL love develops.

But let's consider this in the context of short-sighted men avoiding spats with women they supposedly admire.

First off, one of the ethical 'dilemmas' men face in long-term relationships is choosing whether or not to admit to their partners that they're not beautiful anymore at some point when either youth fades or life takes its toll and the supermodel bod begins to vanish.

This has to be one of the easiest problems to deal with regarding honesty with your partner. Because for one, beauty is a personal thing. People are attracted to different people for different reasons, and pop magazines have nothing to do with it. And while there are general rules of attraction that do govern what a person is attracted to to some extent (like symmetry), a woman that a man loves and cares for and shares intimacy with over time will become beautiful to their man in a deeply personal way that transcends their girl's looks so that no matter how they look- the feeling that 'this is the most beautiful person on earth' remains the same, provided that man is not destroying the relationship by wasting away their lives on porn and cheating with other people or otherwise being a conceited douchebag to the person they supposedly loved.

So even if a lover becomes old and haggard, or loses some of that supermodel flair, a man who loves that person in sincerity without deviation will find with the passage of time not a diminishing, but a flourishing and growth in the beauty of the woman he loves. He can sincerely say under any circumstance that,"You are beautiful." Because to him she is just that. Societal standards be damned, they change with the breeze anyway.

The harder part of honesty is being open about *who* you are, and what kind of life you lead. Because smart girls, the ones who are honest with themselves, will not worship at the altars of neanderthals, cheats, and scum no matter how much they're packing on their biceps or their abdominal area, or even their wallets. The trick here is to then is to wiz-en up, and rather than focusing on being the next Apollos, the thing is to become a good man, full of and becoming better in the characteristics that guide actions to a destination that is rich in love and affection, in giving oneself and not thinking of what you'll get back. Then relationships grow unabated, then honesty flows like a river whose damn just broke, because what's there to fear?

So be good, be your best self, and then honesty will flow as naturally as the inevitable affection you've secured for each other by your wise actions. =)

Of course, I could be wrong. But I seriously doubt it.

Are you really 26?....I do believe this is the first time every poster agrees with the OP :-)..

And why shouldn't they Leigh? He's a man of incredible insight into women despite his youth! Very wise indeed!

Hi ((((Missy)))) ...You're right, Mark is a very special young man ....How are you feeling and are you getting settled in?...Moving is (can be) stressful!!

What about the predatory women that take advantage of "honest guys"? That's the problem that I see with your argument. There's no guarantee that anything will "flow naturally" and you just seem to be assuming that all women are good women.

What about the predatory women that take advantage of "honest guys"? That's the problem that I see with your argument. There's no guarantee that anything will "flow naturally" and you just seem to be assuming that all women are good women.

What about the predatory women that take advantage of "honest guys"? That's the problem that I see with your argument. There's no guarantee that anything will "flow naturally" and you just seem to be assuming that all women are good women.