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Topic: Another Fort Hood Shooting
Lpdon's photo
Wed 04/02/14 07:20 PM
Edited by Lpdon on Wed 04/02/14 07:21 PM
A shooting at Ft. Hood that left at least four dead -- including the shooter -- and 14 injured Wednesday was a "soldier on soldier" incident without any apparent terrorism link, a senior Department of Homeland Security source told FoxNews.com.

A senior law enforcement official tells Fox News that at least four people, including the gunman, died in the shooting and 14 were injured.

The Homeland Security source, who stressed the information was preliminary, added that there was "currently no [counter terrorism] nexus" and said it appears the shooter killed himself.

Senior U.S. officials confirmed the shooter's identity as Spc. Ivan Lopez, who was based at Ft. Hood, which was also the scene of a deadly shooting in 2009 that left 13 dead.

Rep. John Carter, R-Texas, told Fox News' Megyn Kelly on "The Kelly File" the "knowledge I have is he was a truck driver."

Carter also said the shooter was reported to be in full uniform and "it was reported to me most of, if not all, the victims were in uniform."

He also said he had been told the shooter died of self-inflicted wounds.

President Obama said the U.S. government will get to the bottom of what happened in the shooting, and said officials are doing everything they can to make sure everyone is secure.

"We're heartbroken that something like this might've happened again," Obama said.

Officials at Scott & White Temple Hospital in Temple, Texas, said in a press conference Wednesday evening the facility had received four patients from the shooting and another two were en route. The victims' conditions ranged from stable to critical, and included injuries to the abdomen, chest, neck and extremities.

It was not immediately clear where the other eight surviving victims were being treated.

A worker at Carl R. Darnall Army Medical Center, which is located at Ft. Hood, told Fox News they were treating two patients who were wounded in the shooting. The worker says doctors have been told to expect more, although it’s unclear how many more they might be expecting.

“It’s chaos,” a source outside the hospital told FoxNews.com. “I see lots of ambulances coming in. There are helicopters everywhere.”

The sheriff's office dispatched deputies and troopers from the Texas Department of Public Safety to the nearby Texas Army base, Bell County Sheriff's Office Lt. Donnie Adams said.

Fort Hood ordered everyone at the base to "shelter in place." The order was sent on the base's Twitter feed and posted on its Facebook page.

The 1st Calvary Division, which is based at Fort Hood, sent a Twitter alert telling people on base to close doors and stay away from windows.

In 2009, U.S. Army Maj. Nidal Hasan, a psychiatrist who had become a radical Muslim while serving in the military, killed 13 people and injured dozens more inside the Army post in Killeen, Texas. Hasan, who represented himself at a military trial after clashing with his appointed attorneys, was sentenced to death in August.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/04/02/ft-hood-shooting-that-left-four-dead-was-reportedly-soldier-on-soldier-incident/

This crap didn't happen under President Bush's watch.........

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Wed 04/02/14 08:26 PM
i don't think you can blame o'bama for this one...sounds like somebody fooled around with someone else's wife OR "significant other".




Lpdon's photo
Thu 04/03/14 11:52 AM

i don't think you can blame o'bama for this one...sounds like somebody fooled around with someone else's wife OR "significant other".






I can when his administration took firearms away from soldiers on base.

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Thu 04/03/14 12:15 PM
Edited by alnewman on Thu 04/03/14 12:18 PM


i don't think you can blame o'bama for this one...sounds like somebody fooled around with someone else's wife OR "significant other".






I can when his administration took firearms away from soldiers on base.


Yes you can and often do even if it was Bush's fault.

But here is an interesting comment:


Lopez arrived at Fort Hood in February from another base in Texas. He was taking medication and receiving psychiatric help for depression and anxiety, officials said. The gunman's weapon had been recently purchased in the local area and was not registered to be on the base, Milley said.


Now what medications would that be? What does that have in common with a lot of other mass shootings?

And for the less than bright, a controversial source to read the whole story: Iraq veteran kills 3 and self in Fort Hood shooting



Oh look, the Kremlin answered:


Milley also confirmed that he was being treated with anti-depressant medication, though it is unclear if that was responsible for any violent or suicidal thoughts. As RT noted on Wednesday, there were reports of the man complaining about a traumatic brain injury that occurred while he was in Iraq. According to a recent tweet by the AP, however, the Army secretary said the shooter "saw no combat in Iraq, was not wounded."


So I guess it would be Bush's fault as evidenced by his Medicare Part D legislation which demonstrates his support of big pharma.

Fort Hood shooter was on anti-depression medication

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Thu 04/03/14 12:44 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 04/03/14 12:48 PM
Screw the Kremlin!

http://toprightnews.com/?p=2305

Outrageous. Reckless. Senseless. That is what many military families are calling the continuing ban on concealed carry for servicemembers on U.S. military bases. Bases like Ft. Hood, where 3 brave members of our military were gunned down by an apparently mentally-compromised Spc. Ivan Lopez.

And the outrage will only grow in light of a new shocking report that Lopez was able to remain free for 15 to 20 minutes more than enough time for him to kill 3 and wound 16 before finally being confronted by a military policewoman, and took his own life.

For contrast, the wholesale slaughter of 26 children and teachers at Sandy Hook Elementary took just 11 minutes.

And this psycho had 15-20 minutes. On a MILITARY BASE. Let the insanity of that sink in for a minute. And this continues to be our shameful Federal policy 5 years after Muslim jihadist Nidal Hassan gunned down 13 defenseless service members on the same base in 2009.

The shooting began just after 4:00 p.m. local time, and went on for 15 to 20 minutes before Lopez killed himself. Lopez only took his own life after he was confronted by a military policewoman. As Ft. Hood commanding officer Lt. Gen. Mark Milley described it, He was approaching her at about 20 feet. He reached into his jacket. She pulled out her weapon. He put his weapon to his head and shot himself in the head. Milley added that the MP's actions were clearly heroic, what she did at that moment in time�She did exactly what we expect of a United States soldier.

Members of the military have been prevented from carrying weapons on base since at least 1992, George H.W. Bush's Department of Defense implemented a directive stating that it was DoD policy to limit and control the carrying of firearms by DoD military and civilian personnel. This policy was codified by Army Regulation 190-14, under Bill Clinton in 1993.

Incredibly, even after Nidal Hassan's massacre in 2009, this disgraceful DoD Directive 5210.56 was reissued in April 2011 by Obama's Deputy Secretary of Defense William J. Lynn III.


Military families are outraged at yet another slaughter that could have been prevented.

Bases are like schools now, gun-free zones where it is so easy for scum bags to come in and kill people. They're essentially sitting ducks.sick


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Thu 04/03/14 01:18 PM


i don't think you can blame o'bama for this one...sounds like somebody fooled around with someone else's wife OR "significant other".

I can when his administration took firearms away from soldiers on base.

Took guns away from our soldiers? I was stationed at Ft. Hood back during the first Bush Administration, and we weren't allowed to carry loaded guns back then, either. Unless President Clinton or the junior Bush changed the gun carrying laws for soldiers on base (not likely), President Obama certainly took no guns away.

However, it's somewhat comical to see what lengths you'll go to blame Obama, so thanks for the laugh. :)

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Thu 04/03/14 01:39 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 04/03/14 01:42 PM



i don't think you can blame o'bama for this one...sounds like somebody fooled around with someone else's wife OR "significant other".

I can when his administration took firearms away from soldiers on base.

Took guns away from our soldiers? I was stationed at Ft. Hood back during the first Bush Administration, and we weren't allowed to carry loaded guns back then, either. Unless President Clinton or the junior Bush changed the gun carrying laws for soldiers on base (not likely), President Obama certainly took no guns away.

However, it's somewhat comical to see what lengths you'll go to blame Obama, so thanks for the laugh. :)


This may be true, but it was Napalitano who declared returning soldiers and vets a threat to national security under the NDAA that Obozo reauthorized.

Train them to kill then throw them under the bus once they are finished using them..... the liberal way!

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Thu 04/03/14 02:06 PM

Screw the Kremlin!

http://toprightnews.com/?p=2305

Outrageous. Reckless. Senseless. That is what many military families are calling the continuing ban on concealed carry for servicemembers on U.S. military bases. Bases like Ft. Hood, where 3 brave members of our military were gunned down by an apparently mentally-compromised Spc. Ivan Lopez.

And the outrage will only grow in light of a new shocking report that Lopez was able to remain free for 15 to 20 minutes more than enough time for him to kill 3 and wound 16 before finally being confronted by a military policewoman, and took his own life.

For contrast, the wholesale slaughter of 26 children and teachers at Sandy Hook Elementary took just 11 minutes.

And this psycho had 15-20 minutes. On a MILITARY BASE. Let the insanity of that sink in for a minute. And this continues to be our shameful Federal policy 5 years after Muslim jihadist Nidal Hassan gunned down 13 defenseless service members on the same base in 2009.

The shooting began just after 4:00 p.m. local time, and went on for 15 to 20 minutes before Lopez killed himself. Lopez only took his own life after he was confronted by a military policewoman. As Ft. Hood commanding officer Lt. Gen. Mark Milley described it, He was approaching her at about 20 feet. He reached into his jacket. She pulled out her weapon. He put his weapon to his head and shot himself in the head. Milley added that the MP's actions were clearly heroic, what she did at that moment in time�She did exactly what we expect of a United States soldier.

Members of the military have been prevented from carrying weapons on base since at least 1992, George H.W. Bush's Department of Defense implemented a directive stating that it was DoD policy to limit and control the carrying of firearms by DoD military and civilian personnel. This policy was codified by Army Regulation 190-14, under Bill Clinton in 1993.

Incredibly, even after Nidal Hassan's massacre in 2009, this disgraceful DoD Directive 5210.56 was reissued in April 2011 by Obama's Deputy Secretary of Defense William J. Lynn III.


Military families are outraged at yet another slaughter that could have been prevented.

Bases are like schools now, gun-free zones where it is so easy for scum bags to come in and kill people. They're essentially sitting ducks.sick




Oh yeah, let's use a knee jerk response to address every issue except the real one and then wonder why things happen.

Even if soldier's had been armed, maybe there would have been one in the crowd that could have curtailed the incident a little earlier and that is the purpose of the right of defense.

But that is not what is causing the incidents in the first place. In every incident, there has been the involvement of strong anti-depressant drugs. Drugs know to cause severe aggression if the user stops taking them quickly.

But does anyone declare the relief where relief is warranted, no it becomes a gun control or non-control issue.

Doctors found 'no problem' with Navy Yard shooter weeks before rampage


In another doctor appointment on August 28, Alexis repeated his trouble with insomnia, but denied having any feelings of hopelessness or depression. He was once again given antidepressants as treatment.


No Surprise: Psych Drugs Found in Apartment of Aurora Theater Shooter James Holmes


Two psychiatric drugs with known links to violence, homicidal thoughts, and homicide were found during a police search of the apartment of James Holmes, charged with killing 12 people and injuring 58 others in a shooting spree at an Aurora, Colorado movie theater on July 20.


But I would guess that most will just bark up the tree closest to the things that excite them and facts be damned. And sorry about the last quote, the Kremlin didn't have anything at hand that I could use.

Lpdon's photo
Thu 04/03/14 02:09 PM



i don't think you can blame o'bama for this one...sounds like somebody fooled around with someone else's wife OR "significant other".






I can when his administration took firearms away from soldiers on base.


Yes you can and often do even if it was Bush's fault.

But here is an interesting comment:


Lopez arrived at Fort Hood in February from another base in Texas. He was taking medication and receiving psychiatric help for depression and anxiety, officials said. The gunman's weapon had been recently purchased in the local area and was not registered to be on the base, Milley said.


Now what medications would that be? What does that have in common with a lot of other mass shootings?

And for the less than bright, a controversial source to read the whole story: Iraq veteran kills 3 and self in Fort Hood shooting



Oh look, the Kremlin answered:


Milley also confirmed that he was being treated with anti-depressant medication, though it is unclear if that was responsible for any violent or suicidal thoughts. As RT noted on Wednesday, there were reports of the man complaining about a traumatic brain injury that occurred while he was in Iraq. According to a recent tweet by the AP, however, the Army secretary said the shooter "saw no combat in Iraq, was not wounded."


So I guess it would be Bush's fault as evidenced by his Medicare Part D legislation which demonstrates his support of big pharma.

Fort Hood shooter was on anti-depression medication


You make no sense. Anti Depressants don't make you go nuts. BTW the medication they said he was taking is Ambien, which btw I take every night for sleep.

If soldiers were allowed to carry that idiot would have been dead after the first shot was fired, maybe even before.

Obama gets off on seeing this kind of incidents at our military bases, if he didn't he would allow our soldiers who are trained to carry weapons.

Lpdon's photo
Thu 04/03/14 02:15 PM



i don't think you can blame o'bama for this one...sounds like somebody fooled around with someone else's wife OR "significant other".

I can when his administration took firearms away from soldiers on base.

Took guns away from our soldiers? I was stationed at Ft. Hood back during the first Bush Administration, and we weren't allowed to carry loaded guns back then, either. Unless President Clinton or the junior Bush changed the gun carrying laws for soldiers on base (not likely), President Obama certainly took no guns away.

However, it's somewhat comical to see what lengths you'll go to blame Obama, so thanks for the laugh. :)


If that's the case, Obama still hasn't approved it even after several incidents like this, instead he wants MORE gun control.

I was at Nellis AFB in 2002 and there were a lot of military members there wearing side arms and they were not MP's.

The guy is a first rate idiot.

Lpdon's photo
Thu 04/03/14 02:18 PM




i don't think you can blame o'bama for this one...sounds like somebody fooled around with someone else's wife OR "significant other".

I can when his administration took firearms away from soldiers on base.

Took guns away from our soldiers? I was stationed at Ft. Hood back during the first Bush Administration, and we weren't allowed to carry loaded guns back then, either. Unless President Clinton or the junior Bush changed the gun carrying laws for soldiers on base (not likely), President Obama certainly took no guns away.

However, it's somewhat comical to see what lengths you'll go to blame Obama, so thanks for the laugh. :)


This may be true, but it was Napalitano who declared returning soldiers and vets a threat to national security under the NDAA that Obozo reauthorized.

Train them to kill then throw them under the bus once they are finished using them..... the liberal way!


He was probably one of the idiots throwing rocks and attacking a former Vietnam Vets in the late 70's and early 80's.

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Thu 04/03/14 02:23 PM




i don't think you can blame o'bama for this one...sounds like somebody fooled around with someone else's wife OR "significant other".

I can when his administration took firearms away from soldiers on base.

Took guns away from our soldiers? I was stationed at Ft. Hood back during the first Bush Administration, and we weren't allowed to carry loaded guns back then, either. Unless President Clinton or the junior Bush changed the gun carrying laws for soldiers on base (not likely), President Obama certainly took no guns away.

However, it's somewhat comical to see what lengths you'll go to blame Obama, so thanks for the laugh. :)


This may be true, but it was Napalitano who declared returning soldiers and vets a threat to national security under the NDAA that Obozo reauthorized.

Train them to kill then throw them under the bus once they are finished using them..... the liberal way!


Oh worse than that, they have been classified as possible terrorist.

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Thu 04/03/14 02:53 PM

You make no sense. Anti Depressants don't make you go nuts. BTW the medication they said he was taking is Ambien, which btw I take every night for sleep.

If soldiers were allowed to carry that idiot would have been dead after the first shot was fired, maybe even before.

Obama gets off on seeing this kind of incidents at our military bases, if he didn't he would allow our soldiers who are trained to carry weapons.


You should check your premises, they are in error.


Lopez was undergoing a variety of treatments for conditions including depression, anxiety and sleep disturbances, McHugh said. He was prescribed drugs that included Ambien, a sleep aid. Lopez was fully examined last month by a psychiatrist.


And what part of including seems to cause a mental block?


Earlier Thursday, Secretary of the Army John McHugh said records show Lopez, who was a military truck driver in Iraq, suffered no wounds during his deployment there. McHugh testified Thursday at a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing, during which he said Lopez was undergoing a variety of treatment for psychiatric issues, ranging from depression to anxiety to sleep disturbances. He said Lopez was taking "a number of drugs," including Ambien, for these conditions, and that he had seen a psychiatrist just last month. McHugh said there were no indications during that examination that Lopez showed any "sign of likely violence."


Wow, a number of drugs and for psychiatric issues.


Several other atypical antipsychotics have been developed since clozapine was introduced, they are risperidone (Risperdal), aripiprazole (Abilify), olanzapine (Zyprexa), quetiapine (Seroquel), and ziprasidone (Geodon). Each has a unique side effect profile, but in general, these medications are better tolerated than the earlier drugs. Click on the links above to each drug for more information about side effects.


Risperidone, side effects:


Withdrawing:
Do not stop taking Risperdal abruptly; see your doctor before reducing or discontinuing this medication. You can reduce Risperdal withdrawal symptoms by slowly tapering off of this medication.


Isn't it amazing at how all the withdrawal information has disappeared and this is about all that remains. Nothing to do with ammo for lawyers would it.

But you go ahead and drink the kool-aid, nothing going on here.

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Thu 04/03/14 04:32 PM


You make no sense. Anti Depressants don't make you go nuts. BTW the medication they said he was taking is Ambien, which btw I take every night for sleep.

If soldiers were allowed to carry that idiot would have been dead after the first shot was fired, maybe even before.

Obama gets off on seeing this kind of incidents at our military bases, if he didn't he would allow our soldiers who are trained to carry weapons.


You should check your premises, they are in error.


Lopez was undergoing a variety of treatments for conditions including depression, anxiety and sleep disturbances, McHugh said. He was prescribed drugs that included Ambien, a sleep aid. Lopez was fully examined last month by a psychiatrist.


And what part of including seems to cause a mental block?


Earlier Thursday, Secretary of the Army John McHugh said records show Lopez, who was a military truck driver in Iraq, suffered no wounds during his deployment there. McHugh testified Thursday at a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing, during which he said Lopez was undergoing a variety of treatment for psychiatric issues, ranging from depression to anxiety to sleep disturbances. He said Lopez was taking "a number of drugs," including Ambien, for these conditions, and that he had seen a psychiatrist just last month. McHugh said there were no indications during that examination that Lopez showed any "sign of likely violence."


Wow, a number of drugs and for psychiatric issues.


Several other atypical antipsychotics have been developed since clozapine was introduced, they are risperidone (Risperdal), aripiprazole (Abilify), olanzapine (Zyprexa), quetiapine (Seroquel), and ziprasidone (Geodon). Each has a unique side effect profile, but in general, these medications are better tolerated than the earlier drugs. Click on the links above to each drug for more information about side effects.


Risperidone, side effects:


Withdrawing:
Do not stop taking Risperdal abruptly; see your doctor before reducing or discontinuing this medication. You can reduce Risperdal withdrawal symptoms by slowly tapering off of this medication.


Isn't it amazing at how all the withdrawal information has disappeared and this is about all that remains. Nothing to do with ammo for lawyers would it.

But you go ahead and drink the kool-aid, nothing going on here.


I am very aware of the side effects of that medication, I was on it. I have been on several anti depressants and if it wasn't for them I probably wouldn't be here today since back in December I tried end my life. You attack big Pharma, but they do more good then bad.

BTW, I have never had a psychotic break and like I said I've been on many types of these medications and I do high risk work.

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Thu 04/03/14 04:59 PM

I am very aware of the side effects of that medication, I was on it. I have been on several anti depressants and if it wasn't for them I probably wouldn't be here today since back in December I tried end my life. You attack big Pharma, but they do more good then bad.

BTW, I have never had a psychotic break and like I said I've been on many types of these medications and I do high risk work.


And really, where do they do more good than bad? Answer, they don't. Big pharma is about nothing but profits no matter the cost to the user.

Let's start with something easy, statins, my favorite topic on big pharma poison. What does it do, destroys the liver and causes heart disease. What does it cure, absolutely nothing. So why is it so important, largest money making drug in history, worth billions in revenue and profits to big pharma per year.

Want to go for chemotherapy, another favorite topic. Do you know the body contains absolutely no chemo naturally. The body has absolutely no use for it, chemo is a poison. So why is it so important, worth anywhere from $30,000 to $50,000 annually per cancer patient. Worth so much money that there are laws making it mandatory treatment for cancer. You can be arrested and forced to take chemotherapy.

So what good is the drug companies, absolutely nothing, they are the scourge of the medical industry and is one of the main beneficiaries of medicare Part D and Odumbocare.

So go ahead, keep drinking the kool-aid and use the fluorinated water to mix and remember to brush and swallow the toothpaste.

And yes, this OP is nothing more than another big pharma disaster.

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Thu 04/03/14 11:45 PM


I am very aware of the side effects of that medication, I was on it. I have been on several anti depressants and if it wasn't for them I probably wouldn't be here today since back in December I tried end my life. You attack big Pharma, but they do more good then bad.

BTW, I have never had a psychotic break and like I said I've been on many types of these medications and I do high risk work.


And really, where do they do more good than bad? Answer, they don't. Big pharma is about nothing but profits no matter the cost to the user.

Let's start with something easy, statins, my favorite topic on big pharma poison. What does it do, destroys the liver and causes heart disease. What does it cure, absolutely nothing. So why is it so important, largest money making drug in history, worth billions in revenue and profits to big pharma per year.

Want to go for chemotherapy, another favorite topic. Do you know the body contains absolutely no chemo naturally. The body has absolutely no use for it, chemo is a poison. So why is it so important, worth anywhere from $30,000 to $50,000 annually per cancer patient. Worth so much money that there are laws making it mandatory treatment for cancer. You can be arrested and forced to take chemotherapy.

So what good is the drug companies, absolutely nothing, they are the scourge of the medical industry and is one of the main beneficiaries of medicare Part D and Odumbocare.

So go ahead, keep drinking the kool-aid and use the fluorinated water to mix and remember to brush and swallow the toothpaste.

And yes, this OP is nothing more than another big pharma disaster.



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Fri 04/04/14 08:17 AM




That is one way to ignore what is going on all around us. Usually practiced by....


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Fri 04/04/14 11:36 PM





That is one way to ignore what is going on all around us. Usually practiced by....




I am guessing your a member of the Church of Scientology right?

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Sat 04/05/14 12:49 PM
0bama's latest staged event has already been exposed as a drill which the JMSM has falsely reported as being a shooting.

It seems there is a man named Michael Boyd whose headquarters is in the US Southern Command in Lauderdale Florida; and who has been recruiting crisis actors for drills on military bases all across America.

His latest venture was at Fort Hood.


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Sat 04/05/14 01:52 PM

0bama's latest staged event has already been exposed as a drill which the JMSM has falsely reported as being a shooting.

It seems there is a man named Michael Boyd whose headquarters is in the US Southern Command in Lauderdale Florida; and who has been recruiting crisis actors for drills on military bases all across America.

His latest venture was at Fort Hood.




A link to a site exposing this would help.

In the meantime tell the families it was a 'drill'.

Fort Hood Reveals Identities of 3 Soldiers Killed

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