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Alas, more liberal excuses for remaining in the slave zone. Yea it is pretty much that simplistic. I didn't have a job so I got one in moved. I ended up not liking that job so I found a new one and moved. Then I ended up getting married but there were no jobs for my wife so I suggested she look in Dallas where I knew there were jobs for both of us. She found one and moved. I found one a few months later and moved. But there is a huge difference, you are willing to claim responsibility and do what is necessary to fulfill your life to the level of your desires. The other is the world of entitlement, the world of excuses, the world of those with no ambitions to fulfill outside of some perverse right to lay claim on the fruits of others. |
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maybe the day man will DIE without being able to rape that analogy will make more sense,,, Not really, just more of the same. Stealing is stealing no matter how it is packaged. |
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Absolutely not, just as irrelevant as before, actually now more so. Just what does producing for someone have to do with anything, they're unemployed, you know, not working much less producing. And just what does "volunteering" have to do with unemployment? Is this a new entitlement scam? Productive, no, theft! This whole problem could be solved with employee contributed unemployment insurance, you pay, you play. For those choosing not to pay, I guess they would be motivated to find a job, any job. so if someone does the EXACT same work for 'free' that someone else gets a paycheck for they aren't just as 'productive' yeah, ok more of the classist , you are only worth what society/employers/slaveowners will pay for you nonsense,, Still more of the same BS. Just because you desire to become a slave and offer your services for free does not instill a right for you to reach into my pocket and pretend that I desire to be a slave alongside you, I don't. You want compensation, get a job that pays. And actually, the largest majority of people aren't worth half of what they are paid, especially if they work for government. If you don't like that prospect then start your own business and get paid exactly what you are worth. Five Reasons 8 Out Of 10 Businesses Fail Imagine, Forbes is stating that 8 out of 10 get nothing but huge pile of debt. And I would say that reasons 4 and 5 would be of considerable interest should you actually consider an honest endeavor. But I would say it would be more like the government and the Bunny Ranch and the government still thinks they can run something. |
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and neither of you would be on the 'welfare' stigma because your time and efforts are TOTALLY Free and not tied to anyone elses needs,, LILKE CHILDREN yeah, childless adults should be able to rent a room for just themselves and work two separate jobs, if they are able,,, but those with children don't have the same 'freedom' to only think of what they need and achieve it on their own schedule and terms Children were your choice but somehow that translates to the responsibility of others to provide for them. It is the mantra of the entitlement class that runs around with a mattress strapped to their backs but then refuses the responsibility of a parent when the children show up, it is others that must pay. Not to be mistaken from a mother that is down on their luck and needs some temporary assistance to help them regain control of their lives and move on. For them there are no excuses, just a desire to return to a normal and nurturing life for them and their children. For them I would give the shirt off my back. For the others, I wouldn't piss on them if they were in the gutter on fire. For those others, the children should be rescued from a reckless and irresponsible person that refuses to be the adult the child needs in their life. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Fri 05/16/14 04:13 PM
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haaa, children ere actually the choice of ME AND A FATHER
but I know the sexist crowd just refuse to aknowledge that cause the blame game is so much more desirable to them in a clich�,, **** HAPPENS and when people 'decide' to have children, it is at minimum an 18 year journey during which time all types of unforeseeable **** CAN HAPPEN and when that **** HAPPENS, and people fall upon unexpected hard times,, it is only BUTTS who complain about society having a safety net for them to turn to so yeah, I could gripe all day about people fake injuries to get disability whenever disability is mentioned and people can continue to gripe all day about the 'lazy' poor who were just plain irresponsible and have a preference to live off of the scraps welfare provides rather than work but I will continue to believe that its a choice which part to focus on ,and I will choose to believe the majority that receive help NEED and should have it instead of implying constantly that welfare and lazy moocher/thief are somehow synonymous indstead of having condescending attitudes towards women trying their best to raise kids , regardless of where they may need to turn for the financial side or that women alone decide to create a life,,, nature doesn't allow any of us to do that by ourselves,, and usually its MEN who complain about those moms once they need help,, much more often than they dare complain about the men who take sex and procreation lightly enough to bounce around without a care to the lives they produce,,, want to diminish welfare? make it less desirable for MEN to abandon the kids they create, lock their ***** up and see how much more responsible they would be with their seed but no, that obstructs their 'rights' for sure much more humane to allow the children to keep suffering instead, so we can scapegoat more women and continue to feel superior in responsibility and morality,,,, and back to unemployment,, people have choice, whether they are employers or employees,,, its just as insane to tell an employee they are wrong not to be willing to just take 'any job' as it would be to tell employers they are wrong to just not hire 'any employee' we choose what fits our individual and unique needs, when we select a job or an employee , there is no shame in that,,, |
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because its much SIMPLER to move when there is only yourself to have to be concerned with than when there are dependents who cant do for themselves, and who have needs that will be ONGONG While you move and 'start over',,,,
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There was a time in American history when people were willing and able to pack their belongings and move to wherever the jobs were. Nowadays, unemployed Americans - as a rule - expect to obtain employment without having to relocate. I really don't think its that simplistic people weren't nearly as likely to be living only paycheck to paycheck as they are now, and employers had more allegiance to their employees in term of family assistance programs and resources 'picking up and moving' requires breaking a lease or mortgage, it requires first and last rent for the new place, it requires the gas or airfare or whatever to make the transportation, the money to keep up ongoing auto insurance or family groceries,, etc doing all that for a job that may last a day or a year, is not nearly as feasible as it was for jobs that had more security once upon a time,,, Yea it is pretty much that simplistic. I didn't have a job so I got one in moved. I ended up not liking that job so I found a new one and moved. Then I ended up getting married but there were no jobs for my wife so I suggested she look in Dallas where I knew there were jobs for both of us. She found one and moved. I found one a few months later and moved. and neither of you would be on the 'welfare' stigma because your time and efforts are TOTALLY Free and not tied to anyone elses needs,, LILKE CHILDREN yeah, childless adults should be able to rent a room for just themselves and work two separate jobs, if they are able,,, but those with children don't have the same 'freedom' to only think of what they need and achieve it on their own schedule and terms Because children cant move? Really now. Funny how I was born in one state and after 4 years old I was in a different state. Must have been sorcery. |
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Let's see how quickly folks would take that Walmart or MacDonald job if thier gravy train derailed.
Time for politicians to start taking care of the ones paying thier salaries. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Fri 05/16/14 05:42 PM
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why stop there, why not make everyone slave to the employers and 'job creators', eliminate the pesky minimum wage and see how quickly those with no other options would be desperate enough to settle for a slave wage,, or just basic room and board?
heck , why dont we just eliminate the social nets altogether and make it legal to only offer a place to stay and food staples in return for work to keep lining the pockets of the job creators'? and how exactly would 'government' take care of only working people earning enough to pay taxes? would there be a role somewhere and a special budget office which made sure only those in the right class would be 'taken care' of? |
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How did the human race survive this long without a history of entitlement programs I wonder. The majority of humans history people made it on their own. If they didnt there wouldnt be 7 billion of us.
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haaa, children ere actually the choice of ME AND A FATHER but I know the sexist crowd just refuse to aknowledge that cause the blame game is so much more desirable to them in a clich�,, **** HAPPENS and when people 'decide' to have children, it is at minimum an 18 year journey during which time all types of unforeseeable **** CAN HAPPEN and when that **** HAPPENS, and people fall upon unexpected hard times,, it is only BUTTS who complain about society having a safety net for them to turn to so yeah, I could gripe all day about people fake injuries to get disability whenever disability is mentioned and people can continue to gripe all day about the 'lazy' poor who were just plain irresponsible and have a preference to live off of the scraps welfare provides rather than work but I will continue to believe that its a choice which part to focus on ,and I will choose to believe the majority that receive help NEED and should have it instead of implying constantly that welfare and lazy moocher/thief are somehow synonymous indstead of having condescending attitudes towards women trying their best to raise kids , regardless of where they may need to turn for the financial side or that women alone decide to create a life,,, nature doesn't allow any of us to do that by ourselves,, and usually its MEN who complain about those moms once they need help,, much more often than they dare complain about the men who take sex and procreation lightly enough to bounce around without a care to the lives they produce,,, want to diminish welfare? make it less desirable for MEN to abandon the kids they create, lock their ***** up and see how much more responsible they would be with their seed but no, that obstructs their 'rights' for sure much more humane to allow the children to keep suffering instead, so we can scapegoat more women and continue to feel superior in responsibility and morality,,,, and back to unemployment,, people have choice, whether they are employers or employees,,, its just as insane to tell an employee they are wrong not to be willing to just take 'any job' as it would be to tell employers they are wrong to just not hire 'any employee' we choose what fits our individual and unique needs, when we select a job or an employee , there is no shame in that,,, And the list of excuses get longer and longer and longer. Stuff happens, but it's always someone else. Unemployed because someone wont give one a job. No money because there aren't enough social programs. Good jobs aren't available because no one gave one a good education. No skills because training doesn't meet ones schedule. But to condone stealing from another at the barrel of the governments gun, depriving one willing to be responsible for their family but having to make do so they can support someone that wont support themselves is a travesty. But to declare that there should be no shame, that is just pure evil. |
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because its much SIMPLER to move when there is only yourself to have to be concerned with than when there are dependents who cant do for themselves, and who have needs that will be ONGONG While you move and 'start over',,,, And the list gets longer and longer. But gee it must be a miracle for those that accomplish it on a daily basis, you know that other entitlement crowd that believes they are entitled to get up off their butts and take care of themselves. |
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why stop there, why not make everyone slave to the employers and 'job creators', eliminate the pesky minimum wage and see how quickly those with no other options would be desperate enough to settle for a slave wage,, or just basic room and board? heck , why dont we just eliminate the social nets altogether and make it legal to only offer a place to stay and food staples in return for work to keep lining the pockets of the job creators'? and how exactly would 'government' take care of only working people earning enough to pay taxes? would there be a role somewhere and a special budget office which made sure only those in the right class would be 'taken care' of? So what you are stating and have always been stating is that it is ok to be a slave for freebies stolen from someone that earned them so long as you don't have to earn them yourself. But the real mystifying part is the being a slave while earning your keep except for the money stolen to pay for those like what the now worker used to be. And if you think that you are working for slave wages, then you need to examine your premises. You seem to have made a choice to take the best job available within the confines of your skill set. So either upgrade your skill set or be prepared to go to another area where better jobs are available. But I do agree, just eliminate the entitlements altogether. Matters would improve for the better very quickly even if just for the improved employment in the funeral business. And government and taxes need to go first, entitlements would then die a natural death. Government and taxes are nothing more than a slave network. Slaves used to work without any compensation for their labor outside food clothing and shelter. After all the slave owner had to take care of their property. But the government, they claim some right to a substantial part of your labor, more than 50% all total but can even claim and take your food and shelter barely leaving the clothes on your back. Go figure where real slavery exists. |
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Let's see how quickly folks would take that Walmart or MacDonald job if thier gravy train derailed. Time for politicians to start taking care of the ones paying thier salaries. Political salaries, I believe we should compensate each politician that thinks they are a ruler with one automatic pistol with one round in the chamber and let them examine that hole in the end very closely while engaging the lever with their thumb. Then if they have a misfire, it must have been divine intervention and are truly a ruler. |
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How did the human race survive this long without a history of entitlement programs I wonder. The majority of humans history people made it on their own. If they didnt there wouldnt be 7 billion of us. well, as the human race multiplied, there was obviously less to go around for everyone, and more people competing for less so, 'entitlements',, also known as 'assistance' was bon, and has been around much longer than what we call 'welfare' in America,,,, that's how people survived, and (gasp and awe) some of them even strived while others lived and live in miserable conditions but I suppose there is something to just appreciating one has life, no matter if it must exist with a corrupt government, or abject poverty, or wars,,,, people manage to survive , in spite of these things, and that is a testament to humanity and very often to the ability for humans to unite and support each other during adverse times,,, |
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Absolutely not, just as irrelevant as before, actually now more so. Just what does producing for someone have to do with anything, they're unemployed, you know, not working much less producing. And just what does "volunteering" have to do with unemployment? Is this a new entitlement scam? Productive, no, theft! This whole problem could be solved with employee contributed unemployment insurance, you pay, you play. For those choosing not to pay, I guess they would be motivated to find a job, any job. lol at the pot ,,,,,never mind not relevant,,,,  the question was asked about a time frame, an answer was given describing a time frame,, if one cant fathom how the answer is RELEVANT to the question I guess that would be THEIR problem,,, To the entitlement crowd, everything is always some one else's problem so why should this be different. The same old story, "let me take form someone else at the point of the governments gun while one does something not related to getting a job." It has nothing to do with "production", it has to do with ethics and morality, something lacking in those "entitled". |
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How did the human race survive this long without a history of entitlement programs I wonder. The majority of humans history people made it on their own. If they didnt there wouldnt be 7 billion of us. Actually, the size of the Human population has something to do with the deterioration of the quality of life. If I am not mistaken, after the Black Death greatly reduced the Human population of Europe, the surviving commoners (as opposed to the surviving aristocrats) were able to thrive better than before because there were far fewer people competing for food and other natural resources. In the USA, poverty is made worse by the fact that much agricultural land has been turned into concrete jungles. Way too many people either don't have their own land to live off of, or they don't know how to live off the land. |
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How did the human race survive this long without a history of entitlement programs I wonder. The majority of humans history people made it on their own. If they didnt there wouldnt be 7 billion of us. Actually, the size of the Human population has something to do with the deterioration of the quality of life. If I am not mistaken, after the Black Death greatly reduced the Human population of Europe, the surviving commoners (as opposed to the surviving aristocrats) were able to thrive better than before because there were far fewer people competing for food and other natural resources. In the USA, poverty is made worse by the fact that much agricultural land has been turned into concrete jungles. Way too many people either don't have their own land to live off of, or they don't know how to live off the land. Yet how many of those people in poverty have cell phones, computers, cable, internet, etc. How much junk food do they buy? Anyone who has ever worked at a grocery store knows what I mean. |
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a cell phone is a means of staying connected as is the internet and computer,,, the computer being a ONE TIME purchase, usually made for the purpose of having the service of internet,,,,
also, the dollar one spends on a candy bar or even the 10 dollars was hardly going to change their poverty status its really interesting to me this idea in the west that poor people must somehow not have ANYTHING for themselves if they haven't met all their basic needs first I remember a business class that taught us you have to 'dress the part' you wish to attain so why do poor people have to 'dress the part' of the pitiful and out of touch if they are trying to elevate their 'part'? |
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a cell phone is a means of staying connected as is the internet and computer,,, the computer being a ONE TIME purchase, usually made for the purpose of having the service of internet,,,, also, the dollar one spends on a candy bar or even the 10 dollars was hardly going to change their poverty status its really interesting to me this idea in the west that poor people must somehow not have ANYTHING for themselves if they haven't met all their basic needs first I remember a business class that taught us you have to 'dress the part' you wish to attain so why do poor people have to 'dress the part' of the pitiful and out of touch if they are trying to elevate their 'part'? Its interesting to me that people in the west feel so entitled that they think they should get luxury items when they haven't met their basic needs first. |
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