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F2f is the only way I would attempt considering a ltr. Then, that can't be a certain test of who they really are. Like it's said. You don't really know a person till ya live together for a while. This is so true... and sometimes it doesn't even take a while...  I've been called the nicest guy she ever met. Six months living together, she calls me a bossy harass, impossible to live with. That I'd make a great Drill Sargent.  Yes, I can see you have that look...  but some girls like to be told what to do from what I hear...
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that was very interesting food for thought.. there's plenty of fodder to feed on so welcome to Mingle AJ, enjoy the boards... 
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Edited by
Leigh2154
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My questions then becomes... From sociopaths and psychopaths to sycophants and autocrats... from introverts and extroverts to narcissists and trolling perverts... from the cream of the crop at the ivy league top to the very bottom of the socially acceptable pile of poor taste and lack of style... How do we really know what kind of people we are dealing with while interacting online with others we spend time with becoming acquaintances and friends? And in the grand scheme of developing relationships does personality types matter as much as appearance and substance does? Based on my personal experience "interacting online with others", I don't see how you or anyone would be able to know (identify) sociopaths and/or psychopaths, so lets rule that chit out right now...Introverts and extroverts are harmless and the extroverts are often the life of the party, so no problems there either...."Cream of the crop ivy league to the bottom of the socially acceptable pile"  !!! that sounds extremely judgmental to me Athena, so that chit needs to go too!.....What are we left with?...Narcissists and trolls.....In a previous thread started by you, we covered internet trolls...Every site has them and they are easy to identify, easier to avoid...Because this site has moderators that actually moderate and savvy forum participants, trolls are a minor problem, therefore, I think it's safe to rule them out too ....THAT LEAVES THE NARCISSISTS...Perhaps it's time to identify those pesky posters Athena?..... Narcissistic personality disorder, or NPD, is a personality disorder in which a person is excessively preoccupied with personal adequacy, power, prestige, and vanity and is unable to see the destructive damage they are causing to themselves and to others in the process...It is estimated that this condition affects one percent (1%) of the population...First formulated in 1968, NPD was historically called megalomania and is a form of severe egocentrism... Symptoms include the following... 1. Expects to be recognized as superior and special, without having superior accomplishments... 2. Expects constant attention, admiration, and positive reinforcement from others... 3. Envies others and believe others envy him/her... 4. Is preoccupied with thoughts and fantasies of great success, enormous attractiveness, power, intelligence... 5. Lacks the ability to empathize with the feelings or desires of others... 6. Is arrogant in attitudes and behavior... 7. Has expectations of special treatment that are unrealistic... Athena, does this sounds like anyone you know or are referring to in so many of your recent opening posts?...Remember your own words, "We don't always see ourselves the way others see us.".... Actually, no it doesn't indicate to me that you are referring to any one person over anyone else that posts here on Mingle, because I think we each get the usual amount of air time on the boards by those who like to follow our posts with their own replies or spin offs into their own threads. I don't think any one individual stands out over or above the rest as we are all unique in our thoughts and beliefs. As always though, even if I don't personally identify with the point you're trying to make I do admire the in depth approach that you take to proffer an opinion and explain it with fascinating detail. As for what about my first post that stands out in your mind, well... this is just a bit of chit chat we're having in a pretend coffee house or bar over drinks of a stimulating nature, so nothing is taken very seriously by any of us who decided to join in on the conversations. Oh, my apologies Athena  ...I thought all these threads you've been posting lately were serious and sincere on your part...I actually thought you had a problem with the way the boards are being moderated and with the manner in which some of us post....My bad! In fact I do try to make it a practice that once an issue has been discussed and put to bed there's no need to keep drudging it up again. Don't you agree? As for my sincerity... I'm not quite sure what you mean... but I'm sure it's all good... No, I can't say as I do agree and this is why...Once you post a thread, its conclusion is only yours to decide for you, others might not see it the same way ...Some people may still wish to discuss those issues which, in your mind, have been "put to bed"....Also, in my mind, this thread ties directly into several other threads you recently started so your oblique response to my questioning your sincerity only makes me doubt it more...  ....
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Not enough coffee to read all this...
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My questions then becomes... From sociopaths and psychopaths to sycophants and autocrats... from introverts and extroverts to narcissists and trolling perverts... from the cream of the crop at the ivy league top to the very bottom of the socially acceptable pile of poor taste and lack of style... How do we really know what kind of people we are dealing with while interacting online with others we spend time with becoming acquaintances and friends? And in the grand scheme of developing relationships does personality types matter as much as appearance and substance does? Based on my personal experience "interacting online with others", I don't see how you or anyone would be able to know (identify) sociopaths and/or psychopaths, so lets rule that chit out right now...Introverts and extroverts are harmless and the extroverts are often the life of the party, so no problems there either...."Cream of the crop ivy league to the bottom of the socially acceptable pile" !!! that sounds extremely judgmental to me Athena, so that chit needs to go too!.....What are we left with?...Narcissists and trolls.....In a previous thread started by you, we covered internet trolls...Every site has them and they are easy to identify, easier to avoid...Because this site has moderators that actually moderate and savvy forum participants, trolls are a minor problem, therefore, I think it's safe to rule them out too ....THAT LEAVES THE NARCISSISTS...Perhaps it's time to identify those pesky posters Athena?..... Narcissistic personality disorder, or NPD, is a personality disorder in which a person is excessively preoccupied with personal adequacy, power, prestige, and vanity and is unable to see the destructive damage they are causing to themselves and to others in the process...It is estimated that this condition affects one percent (1%) of the population...First formulated in 1968, NPD was historically called megalomania and is a form of severe egocentrism... Symptoms include the following... 1. Expects to be recognized as superior and special, without having superior accomplishments... 2. Expects constant attention, admiration, and positive reinforcement from others... 3. Envies others and believe others envy him/her... 4. Is preoccupied with thoughts and fantasies of great success, enormous attractiveness, power, intelligence... 5. Lacks the ability to empathize with the feelings or desires of others... 6. Is arrogant in attitudes and behavior... 7. Has expectations of special treatment that are unrealistic... Athena, does this sounds like anyone you know or are referring to in so many of your recent opening posts?...Remember your own words, "We don't always see ourselves the way others see us.".... Actually, no it doesn't indicate to me that you are referring to any one person over anyone else that posts here on Mingle, because I think we each get the usual amount of air time on the boards by those who like to follow our posts with their own replies or spin offs into their own threads. I don't think any one individual stands out over or above the rest as we are all unique in our thoughts and beliefs. As always though, even if I don't personally identify with the point you're trying to make I do admire the in depth approach that you take to proffer an opinion and explain it with fascinating detail. As for what about my first post that stands out in your mind, well... this is just a bit of chit chat we're having in a pretend coffee house or bar over drinks of a stimulating nature, so nothing is taken very seriously by any of us who decided to join in on the conversations. Oh, my apologies Athena ...I thought all these threads you've been posting lately were serious and sincere on your part...I actually thought you had a problem with the way the boards are being moderated and with the manner in which some of us post....My bad! In fact I do try to make it a practice that once an issue has been discussed and put to bed there's no need to keep drudging it up again. Don't you agree? As for my sincerity... I'm not quite sure what you mean... but I'm sure it's all good... No, I can't say as I do agree and this is why... Once you post a thread, its conclusion is only yours to decide for you, others might not see it the same way ... Some people may still wish to discuss those issues which, in your mind, have been "put to bed".... Also, in my mind, this thread ties directly into several other threads you recently started so your oblique response to my questioning your sincerity only makes me doubt it more... .... And I respect your right to view things the way that you do for yourself personally. I also respect others rights to view things the way they do personally too. But when I started this thread's topic I was in no way relating it to any other topics having been discussed here recently and any similarities you see weren't meant to even be implied by me. As for others continuing to discuss and post on topics I no longer follow, well, I've never told anyone they had to stop talking about something just because I did. And if you go back and look at a few of the threads I started you'll see that too. So again, I'm unsure of your meaning on this issue. But I do enjoy exchanging ideas with you...
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Not enough coffee to read all this... No problems Stan... it's always better late then never as they say... your welcome to join in or just listen in... whatever you like... I will take this opportunity to welcome you to Mingle though because I don't think I've met you yet, and according to your profile you haven't been here that long. So, welcome to the boards...
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Edited by
Leigh2154
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My questions then becomes... From sociopaths and psychopaths to sycophants and autocrats... from introverts and extroverts to narcissists and trolling perverts... from the cream of the crop at the ivy league top to the very bottom of the socially acceptable pile of poor taste and lack of style... How do we really know what kind of people we are dealing with while interacting online with others we spend time with becoming acquaintances and friends? And in the grand scheme of developing relationships does personality types matter as much as appearance and substance does? Based on my personal experience "interacting online with others", I don't see how you or anyone would be able to know (identify) sociopaths and/or psychopaths, so lets rule that chit out right now...Introverts and extroverts are harmless and the extroverts are often the life of the party, so no problems there either...."Cream of the crop ivy league to the bottom of the socially acceptable pile" !!! that sounds extremely judgmental to me Athena, so that chit needs to go too!.....What are we left with?...Narcissists and trolls.....In a previous thread started by you, we covered internet trolls...Every site has them and they are easy to identify, easier to avoid...Because this site has moderators that actually moderate and savvy forum participants, trolls are a minor problem, therefore, I think it's safe to rule them out too ....THAT LEAVES THE NARCISSISTS...Perhaps it's time to identify those pesky posters Athena?..... Narcissistic personality disorder, or NPD, is a personality disorder in which a person is excessively preoccupied with personal adequacy, power, prestige, and vanity and is unable to see the destructive damage they are causing to themselves and to others in the process...It is estimated that this condition affects one percent (1%) of the population...First formulated in 1968, NPD was historically called megalomania and is a form of severe egocentrism... Symptoms include the following... 1. Expects to be recognized as superior and special, without having superior accomplishments... 2. Expects constant attention, admiration, and positive reinforcement from others... 3. Envies others and believe others envy him/her... 4. Is preoccupied with thoughts and fantasies of great success, enormous attractiveness, power, intelligence... 5. Lacks the ability to empathize with the feelings or desires of others... 6. Is arrogant in attitudes and behavior... 7. Has expectations of special treatment that are unrealistic... Athena, does this sounds like anyone you know or are referring to in so many of your recent opening posts?...Remember your own words, "We don't always see ourselves the way others see us.".... Actually, no it doesn't indicate to me that you are referring to any one person over anyone else that posts here on Mingle, because I think we each get the usual amount of air time on the boards by those who like to follow our posts with their own replies or spin offs into their own threads. I don't think any one individual stands out over or above the rest as we are all unique in our thoughts and beliefs. As always though, even if I don't personally identify with the point you're trying to make I do admire the in depth approach that you take to proffer an opinion and explain it with fascinating detail. As for what about my first post that stands out in your mind, well... this is just a bit of chit chat we're having in a pretend coffee house or bar over drinks of a stimulating nature, so nothing is taken very seriously by any of us who decided to join in on the conversations. Oh, my apologies Athena ...I thought all these threads you've been posting lately were serious and sincere on your part...I actually thought you had a problem with the way the boards are being moderated and with the manner in which some of us post....My bad! In fact I do try to make it a practice that once an issue has been discussed and put to bed there's no need to keep drudging it up again. Don't you agree? As for my sincerity... I'm not quite sure what you mean... but I'm sure it's all good... No, I can't say as I do agree and this is why... Once you post a thread, its conclusion is only yours to decide for you, others might not see it the same way ... Some people may still wish to discuss those issues which, in your mind, have been "put to bed".... Also, in my mind, this thread ties directly into several other threads you recently started so your oblique response to my questioning your sincerity only makes me doubt it more... .... And I respect your right to view things the way that you do for yourself personally. I also respect others rights to view things the way they do personally too. But when I started this thread's topic I was in no way relating it to any other topics having been discussed here recently and any similarities you see weren't meant to even be implied by me. As for others continuing to discuss and post on topics I no longer follow, well, I've never told anyone they had to stop talking about something just because I did. And if you go back and look at a few of the threads I started you'll see that too. So again, I'm unsure of your meaning on this issue. But I do enjoy exchanging ideas with you... Thanks, hopefully some of the other readers and posters will understand my meaning because I feel I've been pretty clear throughout the course of your various rants (threads) about inappropriate posting and dissatisfaction or lack of understanding and acceptance of forum rules...Please forgive me if I sound archaic, but I throughly enjoy Mingle, greatly appreciate the free membership that allows me to participate in almost every service offered here, and am in awe of the incredible job our moderators do, especially since they are volunteering their time to help make everyone's forum experience positive...I guess we are just at different ends of the spectrum Athena...Rather than complain, criticize, and question how management runs Mingle and why posters post the way they do, I am more inclined to thank Mingle for providing such an awesome site free of charge and thank forum participators for their input...Maybe, in time, you will come to appreciate the forums as much as I do....
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Thanks. I'm new to M2, but a dinosaur as far a forums go... anyone remember Usenet?
 I scanned the thread, it's the same everywhere. Though, there was an eye opening thread, on another similar site, that dealt with the Myers-Briggs personality type test. It had forum contributors taking the test and posting their results. Granted that it is a much more active forum, the results were rather interesting and not what one would surmise from what is witnessed on open fora. I find that online social experiments are a microcosm of society at large, though it does seem that extreme viewpoints tend to be more 'vocal' about their particular slant. It's almost like the electronic equivalent to "liquid courage". See what happens when the caffeine starts kicking in... I need a refill, be back in a bit... |
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Thanks. I'm new to M2, but a dinosaur as far a forums go... anyone remember Usenet? I scanned the thread, it's the same everywhere. Though, there was an eye opening thread, on another similar site, that dealt with the Myers-Briggs personality type test. It had forum contributors taking the test and posting their results. Granted that it is a much more active forum, the results were rather interesting and not what one would surmise from what is witnessed on open fora. I find that online social experiments are a microcosm of society at large, though it does seem that extreme viewpoints tend to be more 'vocal' about their particular slant. It's almost like the electronic equivalent to "liquid courage". See what happens when the caffeine starts kicking in... I need a refill, be back in a bit...  Great post...And I totally agree!!
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My questions then becomes... From sociopaths and psychopaths to sycophants and autocrats... from introverts and extroverts to narcissists and trolling perverts... from the cream of the crop at the ivy league top to the very bottom of the socially acceptable pile of poor taste and lack of style... How do we really know what kind of people we are dealing with while interacting online with others we spend time with becoming acquaintances and friends? And in the grand scheme of developing relationships does personality types matter as much as appearance and substance does? Based on my personal experience "interacting online with others", I don't see how you or anyone would be able to know (identify) sociopaths and/or psychopaths, so lets rule that chit out right now...Introverts and extroverts are harmless and the extroverts are often the life of the party, so no problems there either...."Cream of the crop ivy league to the bottom of the socially acceptable pile" !!! that sounds extremely judgmental to me Athena, so that chit needs to go too!.....What are we left with?...Narcissists and trolls.....In a previous thread started by you, we covered internet trolls...Every site has them and they are easy to identify, easier to avoid...Because this site has moderators that actually moderate and savvy forum participants, trolls are a minor problem, therefore, I think it's safe to rule them out too ....THAT LEAVES THE NARCISSISTS...Perhaps it's time to identify those pesky posters Athena?..... Narcissistic personality disorder, or NPD, is a personality disorder in which a person is excessively preoccupied with personal adequacy, power, prestige, and vanity and is unable to see the destructive damage they are causing to themselves and to others in the process...It is estimated that this condition affects one percent (1%) of the population...First formulated in 1968, NPD was historically called megalomania and is a form of severe egocentrism... Symptoms include the following... 1. Expects to be recognized as superior and special, without having superior accomplishments... 2. Expects constant attention, admiration, and positive reinforcement from others... 3. Envies others and believe others envy him/her... 4. Is preoccupied with thoughts and fantasies of great success, enormous attractiveness, power, intelligence... 5. Lacks the ability to empathize with the feelings or desires of others... 6. Is arrogant in attitudes and behavior... 7. Has expectations of special treatment that are unrealistic... Athena, does this sounds like anyone you know or are referring to in so many of your recent opening posts?...Remember your own words, "We don't always see ourselves the way others see us.".... Actually, no it doesn't indicate to me that you are referring to any one person over anyone else that posts here on Mingle, because I think we each get the usual amount of air time on the boards by those who like to follow our posts with their own replies or spin offs into their own threads. I don't think any one individual stands out over or above the rest as we are all unique in our thoughts and beliefs. As always though, even if I don't personally identify with the point you're trying to make I do admire the in depth approach that you take to proffer an opinion and explain it with fascinating detail. As for what about my first post that stands out in your mind, well... this is just a bit of chit chat we're having in a pretend coffee house or bar over drinks of a stimulating nature, so nothing is taken very seriously by any of us who decided to join in on the conversations. Oh, my apologies Athena ...I thought all these threads you've been posting lately were serious and sincere on your part...I actually thought you had a problem with the way the boards are being moderated and with the manner in which some of us post....My bad! In fact I do try to make it a practice that once an issue has been discussed and put to bed there's no need to keep drudging it up again. Don't you agree? As for my sincerity... I'm not quite sure what you mean... but I'm sure it's all good... No, I can't say as I do agree and this is why... Once you post a thread, its conclusion is only yours to decide for you, others might not see it the same way ... Some people may still wish to discuss those issues which, in your mind, have been "put to bed".... Also, in my mind, this thread ties directly into several other threads you recently started so your oblique response to my questioning your sincerity only makes me doubt it more... .... And I respect your right to view things the way that you do for yourself personally. I also respect others rights to view things the way they do personally too. But when I started this thread's topic I was in no way relating it to any other topics having been discussed here recently and any similarities you see weren't meant to even be implied by me. As for others continuing to discuss and post on topics I no longer follow, well, I've never told anyone they had to stop talking about something just because I did. And if you go back and look at a few of the threads I started you'll see that too. So again, I'm unsure of your meaning on this issue. But I do enjoy exchanging ideas with you... Thanks, hopefully some of the other readers and posters will understand my meaning because I feel I've been pretty clear throughout the course of your various rants (threads) about inappropriate posting and dissatisfaction or lack of understanding and acceptance of forum rules... Please forgive me if I sound archaic, but I throughly enjoy Mingle, greatly appreciate the free membership that allows me to participate in almost every service offered here, and am in awe of the incredible job our moderators do, especially since they are volunteering their time to help make everyone's forum experience positive... I guess we are just at different ends of the spectrum Athena... Rather than complain, criticize, and question how management runs Mingle and why posters post the way they do, I am more inclined to thank Mingle for providing such an awesome site free of charge and thank forum participators for their input... Maybe, in time, you will come to appreciate the forums as much as I do.... Now that you are trying so intently to refresh my memory, although I don't remember any rants on my part, I do recall one thread wherein I voiced my concerns and asked for clarification. And the moderators were very kind in providing it. I also in no way even intimated that I was unhappy about the way any moderators do their work. Although now that you explain it more clearly its great to know they are so generous with their time. So, I hope you feel better now that you've yet again aired this grievance you seem to hold against me, but I can assure you that I too enjoy the forums and will continue to do so as long as I am welcome too also. |
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Edited by
AthenaRose2
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Thanks. I'm new to M2, but a dinosaur as far a forums go... anyone remember Usenet? I scanned the thread, it's the same everywhere. Though, there was an eye opening thread, on another similar site, that dealt with the Myers-Briggs personality type test. It had forum contributors taking the test and posting their results. Granted that it is a much more active forum, the results were rather interesting and not what one would surmise from what is witnessed on open fora. I find that online social experiments are a microcosm of society at large, though it does seem that extreme viewpoints tend to be more 'vocal' about their particular slant. It's almost like the electronic equivalent to "liquid courage". See what happens when the caffeine starts kicking in... I need a refill, be back in a bit... A fresh brew... I think I like the intensity of the aromatic flavoring I can perceive from your thoughts percolating. A Myers-Briggs personality test? Sounds very interesting indeed and maybe even a tad titillating too. It sure would make it easier to see which psychological profile we all fit in too. Personally, I've already had so many tests through the decades I know mine by heart. They say my disorder is... ... borderline ... www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSaC-YbSDpo
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I crossed over years ago... now, I wander the Badlands.
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Athena, I don't think that there's any problem if you just go on a site looking to make friends. However, people are entitled to their opinion and you can't expect everybody to like you or agree with you. I just tried to give you my own take on it based on my own experience. Some people would call me an argumentitive person and I've never been one to just agree with people and go with the flow just to fit in or suck up to them. From the first day that I went on chat on that gaming site I had people accusing me of trolling. They like talking about food there in the same way that posters on this forum are always going on about coffee. They were all talking about chocolate and I told them that I didn't eat it because of ethical reasons. I explained to them that they use palm oil in cheap brands of chocolate and that they are destroying the environment and specifically the habitat where orangutans live and breed to produce that stuff and wiping out the species. At other times I had people calling me retarded because I said things about science, mathematics, religion and morality that they didn't like and thought were stupid because despite priding themselves as being open minded people that enjoy open minded discussions they can be quite pompous on that site about certain things and I tend to find it quite tedious when everyone is agreeing and nobody is putting forward an opposing view and I will sometimes do so, even if it is just to play devil's advocate.
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Edited by
AthenaRose2
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Fri 05/23/14 05:29 AM
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Athena, I don't think that there's any problem if you just go on a site looking to make friends. However, people are entitled to their opinion and you can't expect everybody to like you or agree with you. I just tried to give you my own take on it based on my own experience. Some people would call me an argumentitive person and I've never been one to just agree with people and go with the flow just to fit in or suck up to them. From the first day that I went on chat on that gaming site I had people accusing me of trolling. They like talking about food there in the same way that posters on this forum are always going on about coffee. They were all talking about chocolate and I told them that I didn't eat it because of ethical reasons. I explained to them that they use palm oil in cheap brands of chocolate and that they are destroying the environment and specifically the habitat where orangutans live and breed to produce that stuff and wiping out the species. At other times I had people calling me retarded because I said things about science, mathematics, religion and morality that they didn't like and thought were stupid because despite priding themselves as being open minded people that enjoy open minded discussions they can be quite pompous on that site about certain things and I tend to find it quite tedious when everyone is agreeing and nobody is putting forward an opposing view and I will sometimes do so, even if it is just to play devil's advocate. Tawt... I have never objected to others having and expressing their own opinions on topics even when they are contrary to mine. As I am not now nor have I ever been an argumentative female that likes to show my azz while demanding my way be the only one approved of. And if anyone can point me to the threads on any site I am a member of where I have conducted myself in this manner then I will humbly submit to whatever kind of public flogging I may deserve for behaving like such an arrogant and self centered biiiotch! What I do find reprehensible behavior is when others with differing opinions think they have the right to pounce on and rebuke me personally and simply because they agree with each other and find some kind of pleasure in slamming me and/or my adverse opinions publicly. Dating sites are NOT gaming sites to me, and therefore competitive spirits that lead people to directly, not inadvertently, attack others just to be on the perceived winning or group think side of a discussion is in extremely poor taste. IMO. After all, even if we become emotionally invested and lose ourselves in the topic of conversations we are NOT alone but are in a public forum where we are and can be judged by silent onlookers according to our own codes of personal conduct, so I think twice about my own, and I would assume most others do too. While I too have NEVER been a suck up, or brown nosing aZZ kisser for love nor money, so I am quite accustomed to being challenged for being the lone one standing on controversial issues of political and/or social relevance and importance. As for people liking me or not... I've always been a nomad and loner in spirit and to a great deal in reality, so others rejection doesn't have a lasting impression on me. Besides, chances are that if people don't like me the feeling is mutual and we aren't missing anything by not keeping each others company. Speaking of others referring to you as being retarded for expressing your level of intelligence... So often lately I've also noticed that certain individuals are promoting unreasonable allegations and slinging unfounded accusations unceremoniously at my face as if I'm expected to cower down to their self indulgent superiority, and that's just NOT going to happen. Not in reality, and certainly NOT in cyber space. Your proffering on the boards have always been appreciated by me because even if we didn't see exactly eye to eye on all things you still appear to be more open minded and genuine when discussing your life and beliefs and I respect that personal quality. 
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