Topic: Jesus like Muslim?
TBRich's photo
Tue 08/19/14 09:08 AM


Messiah just means 'Anointed One'

Which would also serve as a coronation ritual with someone to be King.


Meriam dictionary Messiah - a : the expected king and deliverer of the Jews
b : jesus


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Have to step back from what we think of "words" first off hand. And think about the time frame and culture the verses were written to understand what they are saying and mean by what they say.


And this is why in modern terminology Epicurus, who taught moderation is seen as a hedonist; The Word again is a stoic reference to the "Artistic Fire"

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 08/19/14 09:56 AM



Messiah just means 'Anointed One'

Which would also serve as a coronation ritual with someone to be King.


Meriam dictionary Messiah - a : the expected king and deliverer of the Jews
b : jesus


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Have to step back from what we think of "words" first off hand. And think about the time frame and culture the verses were written to understand what they are saying and mean by what they say.


And this is why in modern terminology Epicurus, who taught moderation is seen as a hedonist; The Word again is a stoic reference to the "Artistic Fire"


And on top of my previous statement, Jesus is king. He is king of kings lord of lords.

Reemasah's photo
Tue 08/19/14 04:31 PM
Edited by Reemasah on Tue 08/19/14 04:34 PM




Messiah just means 'Anointed One'

Which would also serve as a coronation ritual with someone to be King.


Meriam dictionary Messiah - a : the expected king and deliverer of the Jews
b : jesus


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Have to step back from what we think of "words" first off hand. And think about the time frame and culture the verses were written to understand what they are saying and mean by what they say.


And this is why in modern terminology Epicurus, who taught moderation is seen as a hedonist; The Word again is a stoic reference to the "Artistic Fire"


And on top of my previous statement, Jesus is king. He is king of kings lord of lords.


Still we need prove , you just stated that and with all that am still waiting something to show that he is King of the kings and lord of the lords.

m3k4y's photo
Tue 08/19/14 04:35 PM



Messiah just means 'Anointed One'

Which would also serve as a coronation ritual with someone to be King.


Meriam dictionary Messiah - a : the expected king and deliverer of the Jews
b : jesus


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Have to step back from what we think of "words" first off hand. And think about the time frame and culture the verses were written to understand what they are saying and mean by what they say.


And this is why in modern terminology Epicurus, who taught moderation is seen as a hedonist; The Word again is a stoic reference to the "Artistic Fire"

In the book of daniel we have a passage that s particularlx impressive..the prophey of seventy sevens n daniel 9..as far as i can remember it states there about to atone the wickedness, to put an end to sin.
Anointed one means the ruler. the mesiah..who will put an end to sin..

m3k4y's photo
Tue 08/19/14 04:44 PM





Messiah just means 'Anointed One'

Which would also serve as a coronation ritual with someone to be King.


Meriam dictionary Messiah - a : the expected king and deliverer of the Jews
b : jesus


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Have to step back from what we think of "words" first off hand. And think about the time frame and culture the verses were written to understand what they are saying and mean by what they say.


And this is why in modern terminology Epicurus, who taught moderation is seen as a hedonist; The Word again is a stoic reference to the "Artistic Fire"


And on top of my previous statement, Jesus is king. He is king of kings lord of lords.


Still we need prove , you just stated that and with all that am still waiting something to show that he is King of the kings and lord of the lords.

Different people thinks different way.others beleive he s a king..hindus would highly recognise him as an avatar..muslims acknowledge him as one of the great prophets..and jesus remains the very heart and soul n christians..its the faith that make sense.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Tue 08/19/14 05:08 PM




Messiah just means 'Anointed One'

Which would also serve as a coronation ritual with someone to be King.


Meriam dictionary Messiah - a : the expected king and deliverer of the Jews
b : jesus


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Have to step back from what we think of "words" first off hand. And think about the time frame and culture the verses were written to understand what they are saying and mean by what they say.


And this is why in modern terminology Epicurus, who taught moderation is seen as a hedonist; The Word again is a stoic reference to the "Artistic Fire"

In the book of daniel we have a passage that s particularlx impressive..the prophey of seventy sevens n daniel 9..as far as i can remember it states there about to atone the wickedness, to put an end to sin.
Anointed one means the ruler. the mesiah..who will put an end to sin..


Yahshua also answered someone about how many times in a day do you forgive your brother and 70 x 7 was his answer.

makk21's photo
Tue 08/19/14 05:43 PM
agree with u..

Reemasah's photo
Tue 08/19/14 11:46 PM






Messiah just means 'Anointed One'

Which would also serve as a coronation ritual with someone to be King.


Meriam dictionary Messiah - a : the expected king and deliverer of the Jews
b : jesus


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Have to step back from what we think of "words" first off hand. And think about the time frame and culture the verses were written to understand what they are saying and mean by what they say.


That is why we are discussing that , every riligion

And this is why in modern terminology Epicurus, who taught moderation is seen as a hedonist; The Word again is a stoic reference to the "Artistic Fire"


And on top of my previous statement, Jesus is king. He is king of kings lord of lords.


Still we need prove , you just stated that and with all that am still waiting something to show that he is King of the kings and lord of the lords.

Different people thinks different way.others beleive he s a king..hindus would highly recognise him as an avatar..muslims acknowledge him as one of the great prophets..and jesus remains the very heart and soul n christians..its the faith that make sense.



That is why we are here to discuss , although we disagree with about how Jesus for people in diffrent religions but we agree all on loving him .

m3k4y's photo
Wed 08/20/14 12:16 AM







Messiah just means 'Anointed One'

Which would also serve as a coronation ritual with someone to be King.


Meriam dictionary Messiah - a : the expected king and deliverer of the Jews
b : jesus


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Have to step back from what we think of "words" first off hand. And think about the time frame and culture the verses were written to understand what they are saying and mean by what they say.


That is why we are discussing that , every riligion

And this is why in modern terminology Epicurus, who taught moderation is seen as a hedonist; The Word again is a stoic reference to the "Artistic Fire"


And on top of my previous statement, Jesus is king. He is king of kings lord of lords.


Still we need prove , you just stated that and with all that am still waiting something to show that he is King of the kings and lord of the lords.

Different people thinks different way.others beleive he s a king..hindus would highly recognise him as an avatar..muslims acknowledge him as one of the great prophets..and jesus remains the very heart and soul n christians..its the faith that make sense.



That is why we are here to discuss , although we disagree with about how Jesus for people in diffrent religions but we agree all on loving him .

Many of us love people who belongs to different religions, and we feel uncomfortable that we know the truth and others do not. This may lead some of us to seek a way to accept all religions are true..we are expressing an accepting attitude towards others.. however , it wont work..unfortunately, everone cannot b correct at the same time.

Reemasah's photo
Wed 08/20/14 04:48 AM








Messiah just means 'Anointed One'

Which would also serve as a coronation ritual with someone to be King.


Meriam dictionary Messiah - a : the expected king and deliverer of the Jews
b : jesus


-----------------

Have to step back from what we think of "words" first off hand. And think about the time frame and culture the verses were written to understand what they are saying and mean by what they say.


That is why we are discussing that , every riligion

And this is why in modern terminology Epicurus, who taught moderation is seen as a hedonist; The Word again is a stoic reference to the "Artistic Fire"


And on top of my previous statement, Jesus is king. He is king of kings lord of lords.


Still we need prove , you just stated that and with all that am still waiting something to show that he is King of the kings and lord of the lords.

Different people thinks different way.others beleive he s a king..hindus would highly recognise him as an avatar..muslims acknowledge him as one of the great prophets..and jesus remains the very heart and soul n christians..its the faith that make sense.



That is why we are here to discuss , although we disagree with about how Jesus for people in diffrent religions but we agree all on loving him .

Many of us love people who belongs to different religions, and we feel uncomfortable that we know the truth and others do not. This may lead some of us to seek a way to accept all religions are true..we are expressing an accepting attitude towards others.. however , it wont work..unfortunately, everone cannot b correct at the same time.


Hey you , we should love people for being human , they shouldn't be in our same religion , but you have to know , religion called
( religious laws ) , like Christianity , Islam , Judaism and other religious laws they all not so different because the core of all laws was the worship to one God only and the differences was in the details it self because what was forbidden in the law of Moses, peace be upon him , was permissible in the laws of Jesus and Muhammad God and prayers for them , every one of the messengers had his laws and what was good for him and what was forbidden but they all agreed on one something to worship one God.

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 08/20/14 05:04 AM





Messiah just means 'Anointed One'

Which would also serve as a coronation ritual with someone to be King.


Meriam dictionary Messiah - a : the expected king and deliverer of the Jews
b : jesus


-----------------

Have to step back from what we think of "words" first off hand. And think about the time frame and culture the verses were written to understand what they are saying and mean by what they say.


And this is why in modern terminology Epicurus, who taught moderation is seen as a hedonist; The Word again is a stoic reference to the "Artistic Fire"


And on top of my previous statement, Jesus is king. He is king of kings lord of lords.


Still we need prove , you just stated that and with all that am still waiting something to show that he is King of the kings and lord of the lords.


Revelation 19:16

16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 08/20/14 05:08 AM








Messiah just means 'Anointed One'

Which would also serve as a coronation ritual with someone to be King.


Meriam dictionary Messiah - a : the expected king and deliverer of the Jews
b : jesus


-----------------

Have to step back from what we think of "words" first off hand. And think about the time frame and culture the verses were written to understand what they are saying and mean by what they say.


That is why we are discussing that , every riligion

And this is why in modern terminology Epicurus, who taught moderation is seen as a hedonist; The Word again is a stoic reference to the "Artistic Fire"


And on top of my previous statement, Jesus is king. He is king of kings lord of lords.


Still we need prove , you just stated that and with all that am still waiting something to show that he is King of the kings and lord of the lords.

Different people thinks different way.others beleive he s a king..hindus would highly recognise him as an avatar..muslims acknowledge him as one of the great prophets..and jesus remains the very heart and soul n christians..its the faith that make sense.



That is why we are here to discuss , although we disagree with about how Jesus for people in diffrent religions but we agree all on loving him .

Many of us love people who belongs to different religions, and we feel uncomfortable that we know the truth and others do not. This may lead some of us to seek a way to accept all religions are true..we are expressing an accepting attitude towards others.. however , it wont work..unfortunately, everone cannot b correct at the same time.


Absolutely correct. We can't all be right or correct. But it doesn't have to be "uncomfortable". People aren't looked down on or frowned upon for having a different belief, that's their choice. It's what you choose and people make different choices for we are all different. That's why in previous statement, think might have been in a different thread. But we're here having a discussion, sharing, and expressing. Not debating or trying to prove anything. For anything that is held on faith can not be "proven" until one accepts it. Not much of anything in this world can actually be "proven" along these lines, especially when it involves yesterday so to speak.

Reemasah's photo
Wed 08/20/14 05:39 AM






Messiah just means 'Anointed One'

Which would also serve as a coronation ritual with someone to be King.


Meriam dictionary Messiah - a : the expected king and deliverer of the Jews
b : jesus


-----------------

Have to step back from what we think of "words" first off hand. And think about the time frame and culture the verses were written to understand what they are saying and mean by what they say.


hey cowboy , hope ur having a good day .

About that verse where is it mentioned that it is about Jesus , we have close to this verse but it refers to God not to a prophet .


Hey cowboy, hope u having a good day ,

Where did it mentioned that vesrs is about Jesus , because what i see is just a verse most likely about God not Jesus , we have close to the meaning of this verse

And this is why in modern terminology Epicurus, who taught moderation is seen as a hedonist; The Word again is a stoic reference to the "Artistic Fire"


And on top of my previous statement, Jesus is king. He is king of kings lord of lords.


Still we need prove , you just stated that and with all that am still waiting something to show that he is King of the kings and lord of the lords.


Revelation 19:16

16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.

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Wed 08/20/14 12:19 PM
To be sure Jesus is a King but while he walked the Earth as a mere man he didn't actually hold any office.

Yes, Jesus is a King and he sits at the right hand of Allah and by Allah's leave he (Jesus) will do his Creator's will as all 'good' Kings do.

Is this really an issue? whoa

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 08/20/14 12:21 PM

To be sure Jesus is a King but while he walked the Earth as a mere man he didn't actually hold any office.

Yes, Jesus is a King and he sits at the right hand of Allah and by Allah's leave he (Jesus) will do his Creator's will as all 'good' Kings do.

Is this really an issue? whoa



??? Jesus has no "creator". He has always been and always will be.

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Wed 08/20/14 12:59 PM
According to Colossians 1: 15 Jesus is the 'first born of creation' and while I agree the Almighty God always was and always will be, that would imply He (God Almighty) is the source of all creation.

We must not confuse the Creator with the creation. Paul spoke at length about what the problems that would arise about worshiping the creation rather than the Creator in the first chapter of Romans.

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 08/20/14 01:07 PM

According to Colossians 1: 15 Jesus is the 'first born of creation' and while I agree the Almighty God always was and always will be, that would imply He (God Almighty) is the source of all creation.

We must not confuse the Creator with the creation. Paul spoke at length about what the problems that would arise about worshiping the creation rather than the Creator in the first chapter of Romans.


read a little further.



15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

The firstborn as in he was before every creature, because he is the one that created every creature.

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 08/20/14 01:10 PM


According to Colossians 1: 15 Jesus is the 'first born of creation' and while I agree the Almighty God always was and always will be, that would imply He (God Almighty) is the source of all creation.

We must not confuse the Creator with the creation. Paul spoke at length about what the problems that would arise about worshiping the creation rather than the Creator in the first chapter of Romans.


read a little further.



15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

The firstborn as in he was before every creature, because he is the one that created every creature.


But Jesus wasn't "created".

John 1:1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:14

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

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Wed 08/20/14 01:19 PM



According to Colossians 1: 15 Jesus is the 'first born of creation' and while I agree the Almighty God always was and always will be, that would imply He (God Almighty) is the source of all creation.

We must not confuse the Creator with the creation. Paul spoke at length about what the problems that would arise about worshiping the creation rather than the Creator in the first chapter of Romans.


read a little further.



15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

The firstborn as in he was before every creature, because he is the one that created every creature.


But Jesus wasn't "created".

John 1:1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God's

John 1:14

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


As well Jesus said, "All the sons of God have his image."

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 08/20/14 01:33 PM




According to Colossians 1: 15 Jesus is the 'first born of creation' and while I agree the Almighty God always was and always will be, that would imply He (God Almighty) is the source of all creation.

We must not confuse the Creator with the creation. Paul spoke at length about what the problems that would arise about worshiping the creation rather than the Creator in the first chapter of Romans.


read a little further.



15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

The firstborn as in he was before every creature, because he is the one that created every creature.


But Jesus wasn't "created".

John 1:1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God's

John 1:14

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


As well Jesus said, "All the sons of God have his image."



John 1:12

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: