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Topic: WHAT DO YOU OWN OH (WO)MAN?
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Sat 09/06/14 11:48 PM
Yea, permit me to ask this question to you, as also myself, and reflect on the truth, to find the true answer.
Body, the body in which we exist, is it our own? I don't think so. The father gave the seed, the mother gave her everything, for us, today to be breathing in this body. So, this body is a gift to us, by our patents. And, even if compensated them with love & affection, with being caring about them, are we always there, when they needed us? I don't think, any one of us have really done justice, in this regard. Even if we had, can we say that we own our body? Because if we do own it, are we in possession of full rights, to do as we wish to do, and indulge in acts we want to? The answer is a NO, a firm no. As such we are the custodians of this body, to use it in a way that makes it possible for other bodies live in a healthy, peaceful co-existence.

Next, the worldly possessions. Land, house, the things we use etc. Are these our own entirely? Please, pause and spare a thought. We have just paid for them , to use them, in our life time,for a comfortable life style. The day we pass away into eternity, our TV's will be watched by others, isn't it? Whether we like it or not.

Coming to other human beings, when we don't own our own body, how can we say that we own others, and expect them to comply with our biddings?
The only aspects of the whole life one lives, hence, is the net result of his or her actions, good or bad.

Let me await the response of the readers who saw this peace.

dreamerana's photo
Sun 09/07/14 12:57 AM
what

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Sun 09/07/14 01:28 AM
Ownership of one's own body is the basis for private property rights. That's true. Your first proposition seems falacious to me. How can they give it as a gift when it can't be theirs either.

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Sun 09/07/14 05:27 AM
May I say that the life, and the body in which it exists, is bestowed upon a person by the parents. Its not a gift, it's a creation, probably planned, desired, by accident or even by violent act. Can we evaluate a life, to pay back for it? I am just airing some thoughts......

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Sun 09/07/14 06:51 AM
Seems like our English is different.

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Sun 09/07/14 07:07 AM
My strong view, not just perception, is that a rape is the most despicable act, and "humans" don't indulge in that. For that matter any voilent act against any person must be condemned, by any right thinking person. Probably the comment was made by seeing the title of the topic and not going through the content.

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Sun 09/07/14 07:19 AM
Permit to also say a rape just not violates a body, but total humane feelings are not considered, and animals are better than the persons indulging in such barbaric acts.

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Sun 09/07/14 07:26 AM
Ok. Kindly see the content again and and , suggest a better title, or tell me not try to write at all, and try to better this world with some thoughts driving towards less selfishness, and ego(s).

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Sun 09/07/14 07:30 AM
To each his/ her own. Nobody is perfect. There is saying in Urdu. " Hamam me in sub mange hain. " Meening everybody is nude in the bath(room).

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Sun 09/07/14 07:33 AM
Sorry, I am not defending myself for the sake of argument sake. But, friend, I try every day, every time, to better myself. Believe me if u can. Thnx. Have a nice life.

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Sun 09/07/14 07:59 AM
Edited by DarCWQ on Sun 09/07/14 07:57 AM
sounds like your floundering about with your need to maintain a rape culture to me. Good luck with that.


I must have missed something in this thread.
Do you mind explaining why you believe the OP is trying to justify rape?

Edited to fix typo.

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Sun 09/07/14 08:56 AM
Dodo.. Dave....

.. yep popcorn time..
.. I'll get the drinks..
and set up the chairs..
. somebody else bring the candy..ok..:banana: :banana: :angel: :thumbsup:

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Sun 09/07/14 09:15 AM
Edited by i_am_trustworthy on Sun 09/07/14 09:21 AM
Beg the readers' indulgence for penning the following, so that it may help in understanding my need to say the above at all.
Robert Lynd, a reputed essayist of yore, in one of his pieces, " On Argument," said an argument will usually not help in convincing another person and obtaining concurrance of your point. But people still argue. In the long run these arguments will help, in that they will be ringing in the air, and at some point may make people think.
Also, let me stretch another point a little. Late President Kennedy averred " Ask not what the nation
does for you, but tell what you can do for the country. " Extending this concept, born as a human being, I would like to do my bit for the cause of humanity, and it's wellbeing.

Lastly, in the Winter of my life, enduring the " donkey's years," as many old-aged people, like the grand parents do, I would very much endeavor to do my little bit. So help me God. Thanks.

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Sun 09/07/14 09:18 AM
oh!! and David.. bring blankets, it's going to be a long ,,show...lol:banana: :thumbsup: winking

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Sun 09/07/14 09:24 AM
No, Sir No, I rest my case, and await the verdict. "Guilty as charged," am I ?

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Sun 09/07/14 09:37 AM
sure...
If my body is not mine, I could not possibly have a problem with someone raping me. I am not entitled to consent because it is not my body. does that make sense yet? The Title of the thread addresses that concept toward women.


Thanks.

Yes what you say there makes sense, though I got a different impression from the words the OP used.
I don't see anything in the thread title, to me that just seems like "What do you own oh woman/man".
As if both genders are being asked the same thing.

Because if we do own it, are we in possession of full rights, to do as we wish to do, and indulge in acts we want to? The answer is a NO, a firm no.


When I read it I get the impression that "The answer is a NO, a firm no." is an answer to the last part of the question.
Interesting how different people can read the same words but get a different perception of their meaning.



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Sun 09/07/14 10:12 AM
I've got a lawn chair. Anyone bringing a cooler of beer?

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Sun 09/07/14 10:23 AM

Yea, permit me to ask this question to you, as also myself, and reflect on the truth, to find the true answer.
Body, the body in which we exist, is it our own? I don't think so. The father gave the seed, the mother gave her everything, for us, today to be breathing in this body. So, this body is a gift to us, by our patents. And, even if compensated them with love & affection, with being caring about them, are we always there, when they needed us? I don't think, any one of us have really done justice, in this regard. Even if we had, can we say that we own our body? Because if we do own it, are we in possession of full rights, to do as we wish to do, and indulge in acts we want to? The answer is a NO, a firm no. As such we are the custodians of this body, to use it in a way that makes it possible for other bodies live in a healthy, peaceful co-existence.

Next, the worldly possessions. Land, house, the things we use etc. Are these our own entirely? Please, pause and spare a thought. We have just paid for them , to use them, in our life time,for a comfortable life style. The day we pass away into eternity, our TV's will be watched by others, isn't it? Whether we like it or not.

Coming to other human beings, when we don't own our own body, how can we say that we own others, and expect them to comply with our biddings?
The only aspects of the whole life one lives, hence, is the net result of his or her actions, good or bad.

Let me await the response of the readers who saw this peace.


Drugs are bad! Mkay?

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Sun 09/07/14 10:30 AM
Edited by Unknow on Sun 09/07/14 10:34 AM

Dodo.. Dave....

.. yep popcorn time..
.. I'll get the drinks..
and set up the chairs..
. somebody else bring the candy..ok..:banana: :banana: :angel: :thumbsup:



lol. Ima going to go sharpen up my nails..............I have a feeling this is going to turn into one big ol cat fight

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Sun 09/07/14 04:12 PM
Drugs are bad! Mkay?

I was going to say he smoked too many bowls today also.


When I read it I get the impression that "The answer is a NO, a firm no." is an answer to the last part of the question.
Interesting how different people can read the same words but get a different perception of their meaning.


My impression is that he is glad his ma and dad didn't have a vasectomy or an abortion.

I am pro rights.

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