Topic: Mr. Trump, Don't Apologize
msharmony's photo
Wed 07/01/15 12:12 PM
his quote

"“They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”"

the issue here is in painting immigrants with the same broad brush,,,

especially singling out Mexican immigrants

according to ICE, in 2014, there were 315,943 removals

of those 137,983 had no criminal conviction

ice had no stats on how many were convicted of rape
ice didnt provide numbers on the nationality of immigrants
and only •2,802 were suspected or convicted of gang activity



mightymoe's photo
Wed 07/01/15 12:48 PM

his quote

"“They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”"

the issue here is in painting immigrants with the same broad brush,,,

especially singling out Mexican immigrants

according to ICE, in 2014, there were 315,943 removals

of those 137,983 had no criminal conviction

ice had no stats on how many were convicted of rape
ice didnt provide numbers on the nationality of immigrants
and only •2,802 were suspected or convicted of gang activity





still skimming over the point that they are coming here ILLEGALLY...doesn't that make them criminals?

Argo's photo
Wed 07/01/15 01:52 PM
depends on your point of view....i suppose, the NATIVE American Indian feels the same about the white people who invaded and stole their lands from them by force...

2OLD2MESSAROUND's photo
Wed 07/01/15 02:09 PM
argo stated >>>
depends on your point of view....i suppose, the NATIVE American Indian feels the same about the white people who invaded and stole their lands from them by force...


:banana: rofl SPOT ON~~~~

Now that's funny; my father used to tell us about his ole' man...when people would tell him to "go back to the REZ"---his rejoinder was --- "when all of you white folks get back on the ship & go back where you came from!!!"

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Wed 07/01/15 02:34 PM

depends on your point of view....i suppose, the NATIVE American Indian feels the same about the white people who invaded and stole their lands from them by force...


Who gave it to them?

Argo's photo
Wed 07/01/15 02:39 PM


depends on your point of view....i suppose, the NATIVE American Indian feels the same about the white people who invaded and stole their lands from them by force...


Who gave it to them?

nobody gave it to them, it belongs to them....look up the word indigenous...

mightymoe's photo
Wed 07/01/15 02:43 PM

depends on your point of view....i suppose, the NATIVE American Indian feels the same about the white people who invaded and stole their lands from them by force...


sure, and what happened then? they got to liberal and then who took what over... great point, thanks for bringing it up! drinker

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Wed 07/01/15 03:11 PM
WATCHDOG: ACCOUNTABILITY
Homeland Security let 166,000 criminal illegal immigrants stay in U.S.
BY: Sarah Westwood March 23, 2015 | 4:15 pm

WHITE HOUSE CRIME WATCHDOG IMMIGRATION HOMELAND SECURITY ACCOUNTABILITY SAN FRANCISCO DEPORTATION

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials have knowingly released nearly more than 165,000 criminally-convicted illegal immigrants during President Obama's tenure as chief executive, including many charged with violent crimes like robbery, kidnapping and sexual assault.

Documents obtained by the nonprofit transparency watchdog Judicial Watch show that federal immigration officials released 165,900 illegal immigrants with criminal convictions into the nation, as well as an additional 706,000 illegal immigrants who had not been convicted of crimes, as of April 26, 2014.

The documents also describe some of the difficulties presented to federal immigration officials in dealing with sanctuary cities — local jurisdictions like San Francisco that refuse to cooperate with efforts to return illegal immigrants to their home countries.

In Montgomery County, Md., for example, the documents describe how immigration enforcement officials were blocked from interviewing an illegal immigrant held in a local jail on rape charges due to the county's "prohibitions on immigration enforcement," according to Judicial Watch.

As the Washington Examiner previously reported, Immigration and Customs Enforcement deportations overall dropped 58 percent from 2009 to 2014, while deportations of criminally convicted illegal immigrants have fallen by 43 percent since 2012.

Judicial Watch obtained the documents after the department attempted to sidestep its May 2014 FOIA. The nonprofit sued the department in federal court.

"It's appalling that we've had to sue in federal court to get key information about the Obama administration's release of 165,950 convicted criminal aliens," said Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch.

"These documents show the Obama administration is lying when it says that its 'enforcement priorities' include deporting illegal aliens who have committed heinous crimes. And lawless localities that help protect illegal alien rapists and other criminals show that politicians at all levels put politics above the rule of law and the public safety."

http://m.washingtonexaminer.com/homeland-security-let-166000-criminal-illegal-immigrants-stay-in-u.s./article/2561916/


mightymoe's photo
Wed 07/01/15 03:15 PM



depends on your point of view....i suppose, the NATIVE American Indian feels the same about the white people who invaded and stole their lands from them by force...


Who gave it to them?

nobody gave it to them, it belongs to them....look up the word indigenous...


they didn't just magically appear here, they came from somewhere else as well... mongolia, from the land bridge during the last ice age... last i heard, ALL humans came from central Africa, meaning everyone moved about at one time or another...

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Wed 07/01/15 03:21 PM




depends on your point of view....i suppose, the NATIVE American Indian feels the same about the white people who invaded and stole their lands from them by force...


Who gave it to them?

nobody gave it to them, it belongs to them....look up the word indigenous...


they didn't just magically appear here, they came from somewhere else as well... mongolia, from the land bridge during the last ice age... last i heard, ALL humans came from central Africa, meaning everyone moved about at one time or another...


Yes, just means they were there at some point. Indians were migratory
tribes and had no permanent location.

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Wed 07/01/15 03:22 PM



depends on your point of view....i suppose, the NATIVE American Indian feels the same about the white people who invaded and stole their lands from them by force...


Who gave it to them?

nobody gave it to them, it belongs to them....look up the word indigenous...


Hhummm.... Mexicans (now over 26% illegals and at OUR BORDERS) & a few others groups, should be looking up the words "indigenous" & " illegal" & " criminal " & " resident " & "house guest/ visiting/freeloader " :wink: & then.... "deportation "

And some REAL Americans should be looking up " Natural Born " & "Naturalized " & " Legal" & " Law Bidding Citizen " smokin

mightymoe's photo
Wed 07/01/15 03:23 PM





depends on your point of view....i suppose, the NATIVE American Indian feels the same about the white people who invaded and stole their lands from them by force...


Who gave it to them?

nobody gave it to them, it belongs to them....look up the word indigenous...


they didn't just magically appear here, they came from somewhere else as well... mongolia, from the land bridge during the last ice age... last i heard, ALL humans came from central Africa, meaning everyone moved about at one time or another...


Yes, just means they were there at some point. Indians were migratory
tribes and had no permanent location.


and all the whiny libtards can't see facts... the winners of wars write the history, not the losers...

Argo's photo
Wed 07/01/15 05:13 PM






depends on your point of view....i suppose, the NATIVE American Indian feels the same about the white people who invaded and stole their lands from them by force...


Who gave it to them?

nobody gave it to them, it belongs to them....look up the word indigenous...


they didn't just magically appear here, they came from somewhere else as well... mongolia, from the land bridge during the last ice age... last i heard, ALL humans came from central Africa, meaning everyone moved about at one time or another...


Yes, just means they were there at some point. Indians were migratory
tribes and had no permanent location.


and all the whiny libtards can't see facts... the winners of wars write the history, not the losers...

even conceding (which i don't) that human life originated in cen. africa tens of thousands of years ago and there was movement from there outward, has little to do with where the different races settled and became indigenous to their various areas of earth...i don't remember any history lessons about the native american indian getting in their canoes and paddling across the ocean to invade those lands indigenous to the caucasian peoples...the real facts are the exact opposite...it was the whiteman who migrated to the americas to take for themselves whatever he wanted without regard to the people and culture that had been established here for thousands of years prior to him setting foot on this continent....due to superior weaponry, first the flintlock and cannon then later in the deployment westward, the repeating rifle, gatling gun and six-shooter pistol, the Native American, with bow & arrow, spear and tomahawk stood little chance to defend his homeland from the paleface invaders from across the seas.....you're absolutely right about the winners of war writing history, but it's also true that no matter how much lipstick you put on an ugly pig, it remains an ugly pig...

it is the height of hypocrisy for white anglo saxons to whine about immigration practices in a country where all 100% your ancestors were immigrants who
conquered this land through war against those who are native...

2OLD2MESSAROUND's photo
Wed 07/01/15 05:31 PM
Edited by 2OLD2MESSAROUND on Wed 07/01/15 05:35 PM

argo stated >>>
depends on your point of view....i suppose, the NATIVE American Indian feels the same about the white people who invaded and stole their lands from them by force...

alleoops replied >>>
Who gave it to them?

Argo stated >>>
nobody gave it to them, it belongs to them....look up the word indigenous...

mightymoe posted >>>
they didn't just magically appear here, they came from somewhere else as well... mongolia, from the land bridge during the last ice age... last i heard, ALL humans came from central Africa, meaning everyone moved about at one time or another...

alleoops replied >>>
Yes, just means they were there at some point. Indians were migratory
tribes and had no permanent location.

mightymoses posted >>>
and all the whiny libtards can't see facts... the winners of wars write the history, not the losers...

argo stated >>>
even conceding (which i don't) that human life originated in cen. africa tens of thousands of years ago and there was movement from there outward, has little to do with where the different races settled and became indigenous to their various areas of earth...i don't remember any history lessons about the native american indian getting in their canoes and paddling across the ocean to invade those lands indigenous to the caucasian peoples...the real facts are the exact opposite...it was the whiteman who migrated to the americas to take for themselves whatever he wanted without regard to the people and culture that had been established here for thousands of years prior to him setting foot on this continent....due to superior weaponry, first the flintlock and cannon then later in the deployment westward, the repeating rifle, gatling gun and six-shooter pistol, the Native American, with bow & arrow, spear and tomahawk stood little chance to defend his homeland from the paleface invaders from across the seas.....you're absolutely right about the winners of war writing history, but it's also true that no matter how much lipstick you put on an ugly pig, it remains an ugly pig...

it is the height of hypocrisy for white anglo saxons to whine about immigration practices in a country where all 100% your ancestors were immigrants who conquered this land through war against those who are native...



TY, Argo...the consistent diatribe about 'WHINY LIPTARDS' grows so old and redundant; we all could just start saying ---
Oh, look here comes another '___________' consistent post! :wink:


Discovery of oldest northern North American human remains provides new insights into Ice-Age culture
Date: February 24, 2011
Source: American Association for the Advancement of Science
Scientists have discovered the cremated skeleton of a Paleoindian child in the remains of an 11,500-year-old house in central Alaska. The findings reveal a slice of domestic life that has been missing from the record of the region's early people, who were among the first to colonize the Americas.
******edited for space >>>
Although many of the specifics are still under debate, researchers generally believe that the first people in North America came across the Bering Land Bridge from Siberia some time near the end of the last ice age, around 13,000 years ago or earlier. Archaeological evidence from this time period is scanty, however, especially in the northern regions adjacent to the Bering Sea, known as Beringia.

Scientists have discovered only a handful of known houses in North America from the continent's first 2,000 years of human occupation. And, except for the one at Upper Sun River, those houses are in the lower 48 states or at Ushki Lake in Siberia. Ushki Lake also includes the only known burial site from this time period in Beringia.

The stone tools from contemporaneous sites in central Alaska fit into a category known as microblade technology, which consists of small, stone, razor-blade-like pieces set into larger organic points. In contrast, the more well-known Clovis people of central North America did not make microblades. In fact, the stone artifacts, along with the house structure and the types of animal remains found at Upper Sun River appear more similar to those of Siberia's Ushki Lake than to anything from the lower 48 states.


Perhaps now with more 'Global Warming' and the warmest 2 winters in Alaska --- more areas will be thawed and exposed for further research! Maybe?

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Wed 07/01/15 05:36 PM

by your own account..........millions millions of illegals (of which a portion are mexican) are invading our borders....and according to ICE...87,000 of those illegals (of which a portion are mexican) have been captured commiting criminal acts...

the simple math is....87,000 is less than 10% of one (1) million....that percentage declines exponentially with the addition of the other millions and millions of invaders...

leave it to Mr. Trump to disparage the vast majority of any group or nationality, in its entirety, and judge them according to the actions of a small pct. of the total...

Donald Trump, presidential material ??....i hardly think so, more appropriately, he'd make a real good house painter...as he has a collection of the broadest of brushes to get the job completed....

this pompous buffoon has zero chance of becoming the next president of the united states...and if he, by some miracle, wins the GOP nomination, well then, all of you republican/conservatives can look forward to another four years of democrat/liberal administration....


Whilst I'm extremely opposed to allowing illegal immigration from any country...

I do feel, that Forrest Trump, should apologise the world in general.

Not for any of the dumbass comments he has made.

But, for that hair.

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Wed 07/01/15 05:48 PM
Edited by alleoops on Wed 07/01/15 05:56 PM







depends on your point of view....i suppose, the NATIVE American Indian feels the same about the white people who invaded and stole their lands from them by force...


Who gave it to them?

nobody gave it to them, it belongs to them....look up the word indigenous...


they didn't just magically appear here, they came from somewhere else as well... mongolia, from the land bridge during the last ice age... last i heard, ALL humans came from central Africa, meaning everyone moved about at one time or another...


Yes, just means they were there at some point. Indians were migratory
tribes and had no permanent location.


and all the whiny libtards can't see facts... the winners of wars write the history, not the losers...

even conceding (which i don't) that human life originated in cen. africa tens of thousands of years ago and there was movement from there outward, has little to do with where the different races settled and became indigenous to their various areas of earth...i don't remember any history lessons about the native american indian getting in their canoes and paddling across the ocean to invade those lands indigenous to the caucasian peoples...the real facts are the exact opposite...it was the whiteman who migrated to the americas to take for themselves whatever he wanted without regard to the people and culture that had been established here for thousands of years prior to him setting foot on this continent....due to superior weaponry, first the flintlock and cannon then later in the deployment westward, the repeating rifle, gatling gun and six-shooter pistol, the Native American, with bow & arrow, spear and tomahawk stood little chance to defend his homeland from the paleface invaders from across the seas.....you're absolutely right about the winners of war writing history, but it's also true that no matter how much lipstick you put on an ugly pig, it remains an ugly pig...

it is the height of hypocrisy for white anglo saxons to whine about immigration practices in a country where all 100% your ancestors were immigrants who
conquered this land through war against those who are native...


Have you ever read history?
Cabeza de Vaca, who had spent eight years in America from 1528 on, set the stage for Hernando de Soto and Vasquez de Coronado to lead armies deep into America in 1539: Coronado from Mexico City, DeSoto from Havana, Cuba, a main Spanish New World port. Vaca was the first European to describe the Gulf of Mexico's coastal areas, then through Texas, New Mexico and Arazona. DeSoto, at age 39, was rich from Incan gold and wanted to colonize part of today's America.

Don't they speak Portugese in Brazil?

it is the height of hypocrisy for brown Spaniards desendants to whine about White anglos conquering in a country where all 100% your ancestors were immigrants who did the same.

Conquered land through war against those who are native...

Goodluck polishing that turd...



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Wed 07/01/15 07:22 PM
Whilst I'm extremely opposed to allowing illegal immigration from any country...

I do feel, that Forrest Trump, should apologise the world in general.

Not for any of the dumbass comments he has made.

But, for that hair.



mightymoe's photo
Wed 07/01/15 09:06 PM







depends on your point of view....i suppose, the NATIVE American Indian feels the same about the white people who invaded and stole their lands from them by force...


Who gave it to them?

nobody gave it to them, it belongs to them....look up the word indigenous...


they didn't just magically appear here, they came from somewhere else as well... mongolia, from the land bridge during the last ice age... last i heard, ALL humans came from central Africa, meaning everyone moved about at one time or another...


Yes, just means they were there at some point. Indians were migratory
tribes and had no permanent location.


and all the whiny libtards can't see facts... the winners of wars write the history, not the losers...

even conceding (which i don't) that human life originated in cen. africa tens of thousands of years ago and there was movement from there outward, has little to do with where the different races settled and became indigenous to their various areas of earth...i don't remember any history lessons about the native american indian getting in their canoes and paddling across the ocean to invade those lands indigenous to the caucasian peoples...the real facts are the exact opposite...it was the whiteman who migrated to the americas to take for themselves whatever he wanted without regard to the people and culture that had been established here for thousands of years prior to him setting foot on this continent....due to superior weaponry, first the flintlock and cannon then later in the deployment westward, the repeating rifle, gatling gun and six-shooter pistol, the Native American, with bow & arrow, spear and tomahawk stood little chance to defend his homeland from the paleface invaders from across the seas.....you're absolutely right about the winners of war writing history, but it's also true that no matter how much lipstick you put on an ugly pig, it remains an ugly pig...

it is the height of hypocrisy for white anglo saxons to whine about immigration practices in a country where all 100% your ancestors were immigrants who
conquered this land through war against those who are native...


oh well, life happens... just as it happening now, as we speak... i take it you don't mind the "invasion" of central Americans, peoples who's governments didn't work there, so they come here, searching for a better life, but still want to change the US to the same thing they are running from in the first place that didn't work there...when you get off your libtard stance and realize the same thing can happen here again in the near future, because of the same democracy that made this country a place to sneak into in search of a better life, you might understand that we can just as easily be a poor, underdeveloped nation like most of the others in central America...

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Thu 07/02/15 10:34 AM
Edited by alleoops on Thu 07/02/15 10:45 AM


by your own account..........millions millions of illegals (of which a portion are mexican) are invading our borders....and according to ICE...87,000 of those illegals (of which a portion are mexican) have been captured commiting criminal acts...

the simple math is....87,000 is less than 10% of one (1) million....that percentage declines exponentially with the addition of the other millions and millions of invaders...

leave it to Mr. Trump to disparage the vast majority of any group or nationality, in its entirety, and judge them according to the actions of a small pct. of the total...

Donald Trump, presidential material ??....i hardly think so, more appropriately, he'd make a real good house painter...as he has a collection of the broadest of brushes to get the job completed....

this pompous buffoon has zero chance of becoming the next president of the united states...and if he, by some miracle, wins the GOP nomination, well then, all of you republican/conservatives can look forward to another four years of democrat/liberal administration....


Whilst I'm extremely opposed to allowing illegal immigration from any country...

I do feel, that Forrest Trump, should apologise the world in general.

Not for any of the dumbass comments he has made.

But, for that hair.


Trump as a young child.


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Thu 07/02/15 10:38 AM
Sooo.. if he is against illegal immigrants.. who's going to build his shiny big towers of... you know the monuments to himself.. who's going to build those if there are no immigrants...hmmm..... not that unions..ohh.noo.... I'm starting to think the price of a loaf of bread is going to skyrocket really soon...lol