Topic: Travellers/Gypsies
lu10nt's photo
Sun 07/12/15 04:35 PM
Wasn't sure where this was best going.

So I am lay in bed with all the usual problems going on in my life when all of sudden a mass horde of gypsy cars and caravans have parked on the field behind where we live. Now I have never really been one to question gypsies or their lifestyles not until recently. They live in caravans so what but we have caravan parks. They are "travelers" but we have caravan parks. Basically my biggest problems with these louts are that they don't contribute to society but society has to provide them all the hospitality they desire all catered for by the tax payer. These gypsy scum turn up, don't pay tax on anything and they are in the field behind me engulfing the place in their faeces and litter.

The worst part of these scum are what a group of them did last year. Whether they are the same group I can't tell. They would advertise their "local" company as landscapers. They would steal the materials to do the shoddy work, take the money from the innocent taxpayer and then the devastated tax payer has to ring my dad up to do the job properly.

They pretend to be "travelers" and yet all they do is move from one town to another and back again. All in aid of stealing everything they wear and everything they eat, living in a tax free, care free way. Everywhere they go they must be shunned and hated. What has angered me a little more is that a group of 4 gypsy kids came into the shop that I work in and stole a load of sweets. Half an hour later a policeman came in and I mentioned it to him and he was just like "yeah theirs nothing you can do about it". Makes me feel much safer to know that gypsies can just do as they f*cking please. Why can't the government give those who are meant to protect us and makes us feel safe the powers to cease the individuals who are pretending to be "travelers", have them interrogated and so on (for no real reason) and then just castrate the males and in a few decades the problem will automatically be resolved.

I have been very temporarily convinced that not all travelers are bad and that some are actually travelers and abide by the law. I do however believe that the law needs to be changed to be heavily biased in the tax payers favor and not the vermin

Thanks for reading my rant. Feel free to publish your own opinions and experiences. I just feel like going out their with a flame thrower and brightening up my day but since I have a fear of fire that won't be happening anytime soon. Maybe I could infect them with a disease or grenade them perhaps...

IgorFrankensteen's photo
Sun 07/12/15 04:59 PM
The functional question I have for you, is are you willing to pay to deal with the problem or not?

The reason why the police officer told you that there's nothing that can be done about the stolen candy isn't because he or the legal system supports theft. It's because in order to be able to act against what you're complaining about, requires both more police, and more restrictive laws, many of which would limit your freedom as well.

I completely sympathize with you, I don't want the people around me to be able to take advantage of the legal system to pull stunts either. But I realize that there's a real cost to taking action.

Most modern store owners and managers have a specific category of regular expense called "shrinkage," which is loss of assets due to theft by both employees and customers, as well as losses due to cheating vendors, and so on. the store owners know that they COULD prevent all those losses, by installing tons of monitoring cameras, and hiring a round the clock contingent of video police, as well as a large number of appropriately armed store guards. However, they choose not to, for simple economic reasons.

If you are willing to have your taxes jump in order to hire sufficient police to deal with these people, and you are willing to have additional laws passed to limit their freedom to act as they do, then you can work politically to get that done. Were this happening in my area, I might well sign your petitions.


no photo
Sun 07/12/15 05:03 PM
They have some gypsy wedding reality show on tv here and I cant tell the difference between gypsies and plain 'ol white trash.....sorry, thats all I got.


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xcsiJcZrzXc

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Sun 07/12/15 06:23 PM

I cant tell the difference between gypsies and plain 'ol white trash.....



Trailer park for sure

lu10nt's photo
Mon 07/13/15 05:28 AM

The functional question I have for you, is are you willing to pay to deal with the problem or not?

The reason why the police officer told you that there's nothing that can be done about the stolen candy isn't because he or the legal system supports theft. It's because in order to be able to act against what you're complaining about, requires both more police, and more restrictive laws, many of which would limit your freedom as well.

I completely sympathize with you, I don't want the people around me to be able to take advantage of the legal system to pull stunts either. But I realize that there's a real cost to taking action.

Most modern store owners and managers have a specific category of regular expense called "shrinkage," which is loss of assets due to theft by both employees and customers, as well as losses due to cheating vendors, and so on. the store owners know that they COULD prevent all those losses, by installing tons of monitoring cameras, and hiring a round the clock contingent of video police, as well as a large number of appropriately armed store guards. However, they choose not to, for simple economic reasons.

If you are willing to have your taxes jump in order to hire sufficient police to deal with these people, and you are willing to have additional laws passed to limit their freedom to act as they do, then you can work politically to get that done. Were this happening in my area, I might well sign your petitions.




I just don't see what I am paying taxes for. I don't see anything for it. Nothing I want dealing with. Yeah it sorts the NHS out which I've not needed for well over 10 years. Can I get a refund on my tax please. The police have not helped me out ever, maybe behind the scenes with other crims doing other crimes but not me personally. The taxes may go to improve roads perhaps as I think about the giant pothole I have to swerve to avoid on the way to work everyday. The only time I saw a roads potholes being seen to was conveniently during an election campaign. Maybe if we had elections every week somethings might actually f*cking change. Its seems that I predominately pay taxes for the benefit cheats that come into my shop along with the gypsies and rob us blind. Welcome to the topsy turvy world we live in. Forget going to school, college and uni for a well paid job, just live off everyone elses taxes and steal anything you need. There is no point putting up pretend barriers of paying more tax etc when the thieving governments to distracted with lining their own pockets couldn't give two damn sh*ts with whats going on in the real world. The time to act is more than a decade ago and we are likely delaying the inevitable. This being more frequent rioting and revolting and perhaps an uprising. Life is unfair because those in charge are corrupt to the eyeballs and the hair follicles on top of their heads, heads full of crap that run amok in the house of commons in a unified effort to make britains politics look like a preschool war over who has the red crayon.

TawtStrat's photo
Mon 07/27/15 07:17 AM
I'm not necessarily defending these people but many of them opt for that hobo lifestyle because they don't want any part of precisely the system that you are complaining about. A lot of so-called "travelers" are just middle classed hippy drop outs that think that they are anarchists because they don't claim dole money, while they'll quite happly sponge off their parents and accept handouts from people that they meet on their travels. They are opting out of mainstream society and simply don't recognise your right of ownership or control over the land.

It's true that many of them want it both ways and exploit the system and claim dole money but some of them contribute to society and there's a long history of gypsies making their livings by running fairgrounds. I saw a story on the news recently about a Gypsy girl that just got a place at Oxford university. She went to school when they weren't moving about and just did a lot of studying while traveling.