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Topic: Cultural/racial/religious conflicts
Ladywind7's photo
Tue 09/08/15 05:32 AM
Exactly how many cultural/racial/religious conflicts are going on in the USA today?
Coming from peaceful New Zealand I detect thus far...

Black/white
Christian/Muslim
Anybody not Muslim/Muslim
Anti Semitism
Anti Chinese

Have I forgot any?
There must be the gangs, the Mexican illegal immigrants too.
How is America to deal with all this conflict?
Are there any answers?
Do we need another Martin Luther King or many variants of him at this time for this building unrest?

What do you personally suggest that is a positive step forward.
Is unity ever going to be possible?


SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Tue 09/08/15 05:38 AM
Edited by SparklingCrystal 💖💎 on Tue 09/08/15 05:40 AM
Interesting question! I've often wondered the same thing.
Especially the gang stuff that's going on there.

And as far as I can work out, the black & white situation in the US is unique in the world. I don't think there is any other country where both black & white are not native to the country. In every other country either black or white is.

I think the rest can be found in any western country (religious, racial conflicts, immigrants etc)
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TMommy's photo
Tue 09/08/15 05:45 AM
our country is kind of unique I suppose and at times difficult to understand
on one hand we have freedom of religion
but on other hand we have freedom of speech


what this means is
all races, cultures have the same rights as a US citizen
we are indeed the melting pot
the only Natives to this country being the Native Americans
all of us have ancestors that originated somewhere else
mine are from England and Ireland

however, because we have the freedom to voice whatever opinion we want
we also have our share of bigots, stereotyping, slander and hatred

I would like to say that gangs are only found in big cities like New York or Las Angeles but that is not true anymore

we have them in Detroit
gangs are sometimes based on race and there may be one that is mostly African American and another one that is Mexican and another that is Neo Nazis but I live in a part of state where you do not usually hear about this going on

Ladywind7's photo
Tue 09/08/15 05:52 AM

Interesting question! I've often wondered the same thing.
Especially the gang stuff that's going on there.

And as far as I can work out, the black & white situation in the US is unique in the world. I don't think there is any other country where both black & white are not native to the country. In every other country either black or white is.

I think the rest can be found in any western country (religious, racial conflicts, immigrants etc)
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Hmmm, we are so very lucky here.
Before us European settlers, there were the Maori, before them were the MAORIORIS. We are are really young country at present.

Ladywind7's photo
Tue 09/08/15 05:57 AM

our country is kind of unique I suppose and at times difficult to understand
on one hand we have freedom of religion
but on other hand we have freedom of speech


what this means is
all races, cultures have the same rights as a US citizen
we are indeed the melting pot
the only Natives to this country being the Native Americans
all of us have ancestors that originated somewhere else
mine are from England and Ireland

however, because we have the freedom to voice whatever opinion we want
we also have our share of bigots, stereotyping, slander and hatred

I would like to say that gangs are only found in big cities like New York or Las Angeles but that is not true anymore

we have them in Detroit
gangs are sometimes based on race and there may be one that is mostly African American and another one that is Mexican and another that is Neo Nazis but I live in a part of state where you do not usually hear about this going on

I like your new pic :)
Any suggestions/ideas for peace. Is it education, or do you think there is no solution?

no photo
Tue 09/08/15 06:06 AM

our country is kind of unique I suppose and at times difficult to understand
on one hand we have freedom of religion
but on other hand we have freedom of speech


what this means is
all races, cultures have the same rights as a US citizen
we are indeed the melting pot
the only Natives to this country being the Native Americans
all of us have ancestors that originated somewhere else
mine are from England and Ireland

however, because we have the freedom to voice whatever opinion we want
we also have our share of bigots, stereotyping, slander and hatred

I would like to say that gangs are only found in big cities like New York or Las Angeles but that is not true anymore

we have them in Detroit
gangs are sometimes based on race and there may be one that is mostly African American and another one that is Mexican and another that is Neo Nazis but I live in a part of state where you do not usually hear about this going on


And we have more and more on the news about gang violence in Portland, OR.

tulip2633's photo
Tue 09/08/15 07:39 AM
The state of conflict is ingrained witin our human nature. Scientists and philosophers alike try to dissect the origin of conflict, but to no avail. There are innumerous competing theories and factors involved. The only solution would be to simply wipe the slate clean and begin again as simple nomadic foragers, hoping for a different outcome; although, it may very well be inevitable.

Simply put, humankind is incapable of just getting along with each other. We are left no realistic solution at this point, only war; proved time after time. We have taken the wrong path and lost our way back.

prashant01's photo
Tue 09/08/15 07:56 AM
Edited by prashant01 on Tue 09/08/15 07:57 AM
Good question!

Yes there is A solution....simple but hard for US to implement.

Just stop encouraging other nation's conflicts & leave the desire to be super power.

Let the peace (Not US) rule the whole world & mankind........the peace will flow from those countries & communities to you slowly & silently.

tulip2633's photo
Tue 09/08/15 08:16 AM

Good question!

Yes there is A solution....simple but hard for US to implement.

Just stop encouraging other nation's conflicts & leave the desire to be super power.

Let the peace (Not US) rule the whole world & mankind........the peace will flow from those countries & communities to you slowly & silently.


The U.S. was not around in 3,000 BC when apparent conflicts already existed. Your statement is laughable. But go ahead and attribute all the woes of humankind onto the U.S.; how predictable.

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 09/08/15 08:54 AM
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Conrad_73's photo
Tue 09/08/15 08:58 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Tue 09/08/15 08:59 AM

Good question!

Yes there is A solution....simple but hard for US to implement.

Just stop encouraging other nation's conflicts & leave the desire to be super power.

Let the peace (Not US) rule the whole world & mankind........the peace will flow from those countries & communities to you slowly & silently.

really love when People try to blame the Ills that have plagued Humanity over the last ten-thousand years on one of the youngest Nations,that's not even three-hundred years old!laugh

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/08/15 11:04 AM

Exactly how many cultural/racial/religious conflicts are going on in the USA today?
Coming from peaceful New Zealand I detect thus far...

Black/white
Christian/Muslim
Anybody not Muslim/Muslim
Anti Semitism
Anti Chinese

Have I forgot any?
There must be the gangs, the Mexican illegal immigrants too.
How is America to deal with all this conflict?
Are there any answers?
Do we need another Martin Luther King or many variants of him at this time for this building unrest?

What do you personally suggest that is a positive step forward.
Is unity ever going to be possible?





its usual human stuff, really

we all have to evolve to a place where 'different' doesnt have to mean 'less than'

where we can be different nationalities, sexes, races, etc,, but primarily be human (as opposed to being 'just' human)


moving toward the goldenrule of treating others as we wish to be treated and loving our neighbor as ourself

but its very contrary to a culture that promotes individuilist egoism




I fear we are moving more towards a movement of discarding any aknowledgement of differences so everyone can appear to be 'same' and 'just human'



no photo
Tue 09/08/15 11:09 AM
Exactly how many cultural/racial/religious conflicts are going on in the USA today?

All of them?

Have I forgot any?

Sure!
You've forgotten conservative vs. "liberal," republican vs. democrat, "teaparty" vs republicans sometimes vs. democrats sometimes. Political conflicts, anti obama and government, anti police movements.

There's also Luddites vs. technophiles, apple fanboys vs. android, antimormonism.
Secessionists vs. patriotism.
Constitutionalists vs. constitution as a living and malleable document on an etch a sketch.

Fat vs. skinny, women vs. men.
Legals vs. illegals vs. natural born citizens.
Main st. vs. wall street.
environmentalism vs corporatism.
corporations vs. community (e.g. wal-mart business practices)
Pro live vs. pro choice.
Isolationism vs. protectionism vs. globalism.

There are just tons and tons and tons and tons if you're going to include "cultural" to racial and religious.

How is America to deal with all this conflict?

Generally poorly and slowly, with war and technology being the biggest proponents of actual change.

Are there any answers?

People figure out practical solutions for their sphere of influence.
Otherwise they start fighting or run away to somewhere safer.
Fight, flight, or ignore until it becomes a problem where fight or flight are necessary.
That's pretty much how everything is answered.

Do we need another Martin Luther King or many variants of him at this time for this building unrest?

Thanks to the power of hindsight and current problems I think the only thing he really achieved was giving a nice speech.
Ultimately, he didn't really accomplish all that much.
The threat of violence and application of force did more than he did.

What do you personally suggest that is a positive step forward.

No real such thing as a step forward. Just keeping on stepping.
Progress is a myth. Change is a constant.
There is no Xanadu or paradise.

At best one group can acquire a bunch of resources to create an oasis for themselves for a time, with said resources dwindling as they try to control change until it just can't be controlled.

Is unity ever going to be possible?

Peace, probably. Mutually assured destruction kept it for a little while among certain countries.
Unity, never.





prashant01's photo
Tue 09/08/15 11:30 AM
Edited by prashant01 on Tue 09/08/15 11:42 AM

Good question!

Yes there is A solution....simple but hard for US to implement.

Just stop encouraging other nation's conflicts & leave the desire to be super power.

Let the peace (Not US) rule the whole world & mankind........the peace will flow from those countries & communities to you slowly & silently.

The U.S. was not around in 3,000 BC when apparent conflicts already existed. Your statement is laughable. But go ahead and attribute all the woes of humankind onto the U.S.; how predictable.



really love when People try to blame the Ills that have plagued Humanity over the last ten-thousand years on one of the youngest Nations,that's not even three-hundred years old!laugh


Well guys....I said and you proved it without any delay!!!

It's really very HARD for you to implement JUST BECAUSE....you are not ready to ACCEPT,ADMIT,REALIZE your MISTAKES.

The solution is really that simple...you really don't have to do anything....you have to just keep quiet....stop doing the things..!!!

The cat drinks the milk by shutting it's eyes...but others are watching....aren't they??

Ignoring the solution by saying it laughable wouldn't really take you to peace!!

One must learn to accept the mistake first to correct it....if really wants to..

Anyways....See, a country is not just a piece of land or some corporation formed!! It's about the tendencies of people who formed it and ruled it.

Though US is formed quite latter, the communities which formed it existed since long back....they acquired the prosperous land, exploited native americans & resources, they formed their colonies & latter denied to accept the command of their masters....they formed their own nation on the acquired land and declared that NOW THEY ARE INDEPENDENT!!!!.............................
....so how can one escape by saying that they are too young to do the blunder??? The corporation formed may be new but the people who formed it are not new ,their tendencies are not new, the communities are not new....they must consider themselves fully responsible for what & where they are now.....

Well...I'm not saying this to blame the nation, this is just for explaining how you can't escape by saying that you were not existed when others were fighting...rather accept the truth that you were always leading the fights ALL OVER THE PLANET.

No need to repeat I guess...Accept & correct your mistakes if you really want peace....!! We are human beings, we can be peaceful for ever only if we all are peaceful.

It wouldn't be possible for anyone, however powerful he may be to sleep with peace by leaving other's restless.

All the best!

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 09/08/15 01:26 PM


Good question!

Yes there is A solution....simple but hard for US to implement.

Just stop encouraging other nation's conflicts & leave the desire to be super power.

Let the peace (Not US) rule the whole world & mankind........the peace will flow from those countries & communities to you slowly & silently.

The U.S. was not around in 3,000 BC when apparent conflicts already existed. Your statement is laughable. But go ahead and attribute all the woes of humankind onto the U.S.; how predictable.



really love when People try to blame the Ills that have plagued Humanity over the last ten-thousand years on one of the youngest Nations,that's not even three-hundred years old!laugh


Well guys....I said and you proved it without any delay!!!

It's really very HARD for you to implement JUST BECAUSE....you are not ready to ACCEPT,ADMIT,REALIZE your MISTAKES.

The solution is really that simple...you really don't have to do anything....you have to just keep quiet....stop doing the things..!!!

The cat drinks the milk by shutting it's eyes...but others are watching....aren't they??

Ignoring the solution by saying it laughable wouldn't really take you to peace!!

One must learn to accept the mistake first to correct it....if really wants to..

Anyways....See, a country is not just a piece of land or some corporation formed!! It's about the tendencies of people who formed it and ruled it.

Though US is formed quite latter, the communities which formed it existed since long back....they acquired the prosperous land, exploited native americans & resources, they formed their colonies & latter denied to accept the command of their masters....they formed their own nation on the acquired land and declared that NOW THEY ARE INDEPENDENT!!!!.............................
....so how can one escape by saying that they are too young to do the blunder??? The corporation formed may be new but the people who formed it are not new ,their tendencies are not new, the communities are not new....they must consider themselves fully responsible for what & where they are now.....

Well...I'm not saying this to blame the nation, this is just for explaining how you can't escape by saying that you were not existed when others were fighting...rather accept the truth that you were always leading the fights ALL OVER THE PLANET.

No need to repeat I guess...Accept & correct your mistakes if you really want peace....!! We are human beings, we can be peaceful for ever only if we all are peaceful.

It wouldn't be possible for anyone, however powerful he may be to sleep with peace by leaving other's restless.

All the best!


well,Old Son,maybe it's time that your Country starts to rake the Chestnuts out of the Fire for the UN,and see how they will like to get vilified for it!

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 09/08/15 01:41 PM



Good question!

Yes there is A solution....simple but hard for US to implement.

Just stop encouraging other nation's conflicts & leave the desire to be super power.

Let the peace (Not US) rule the whole world & mankind........the peace will flow from those countries & communities to you slowly & silently.

The U.S. was not around in 3,000 BC when apparent conflicts already existed. Your statement is laughable. But go ahead and attribute all the woes of humankind onto the U.S.; how predictable.



really love when People try to blame the Ills that have plagued Humanity over the last ten-thousand years on one of the youngest Nations,that's not even three-hundred years old!laugh


Well guys....I said and you proved it without any delay!!!

It's really very HARD for you to implement JUST BECAUSE....you are not ready to ACCEPT,ADMIT,REALIZE your MISTAKES.

The solution is really that simple...you really don't have to do anything....you have to just keep quiet....stop doing the things..!!!

The cat drinks the milk by shutting it's eyes...but others are watching....aren't they??

Ignoring the solution by saying it laughable wouldn't really take you to peace!!

One must learn to accept the mistake first to correct it....if really wants to..

Anyways....See, a country is not just a piece of land or some corporation formed!! It's about the tendencies of people who formed it and ruled it.

Though US is formed quite latter, the communities which formed it existed since long back....they acquired the prosperous land, exploited native americans & resources, they formed their colonies & latter denied to accept the command of their masters....they formed their own nation on the acquired land and declared that NOW THEY ARE INDEPENDENT!!!!.............................
....so how can one escape by saying that they are too young to do the blunder??? The corporation formed may be new but the people who formed it are not new ,their tendencies are not new, the communities are not new....they must consider themselves fully responsible for what & where they are now.....

Well...I'm not saying this to blame the nation, this is just for explaining how you can't escape by saying that you were not existed when others were fighting...rather accept the truth that you were always leading the fights ALL OVER THE PLANET.

No need to repeat I guess...Accept & correct your mistakes if you really want peace....!! We are human beings, we can be peaceful for ever only if we all are peaceful.

It wouldn't be possible for anyone, however powerful he may be to sleep with peace by leaving other's restless.

All the best!


well,Old Son,maybe it's time that your Country starts to rake the Chestnuts out of the Fire for the UN,and see how they will like to get vilified for it!


Seems to me others don't want us to do anything unless THEY want it but they don't turn away our help.

Ireland has been fighting for a very long time. Europe did the ethnic cleansing but the US is so Hollywood, we are in the news everywhere. Fighting in the Middle East has been going on forever

mightymoe's photo
Tue 09/08/15 01:47 PM


Good question!

Yes there is A solution....simple but hard for US to implement.

Just stop encouraging other nation's conflicts & leave the desire to be super power.

Let the peace (Not US) rule the whole world & mankind........the peace will flow from those countries & communities to you slowly & silently.

The U.S. was not around in 3,000 BC when apparent conflicts already existed. Your statement is laughable. But go ahead and attribute all the woes of humankind onto the U.S.; how predictable.



really love when People try to blame the Ills that have plagued Humanity over the last ten-thousand years on one of the youngest Nations,that's not even three-hundred years old!laugh


Well guys....I said and you proved it without any delay!!!

It's really very HARD for you to implement JUST BECAUSE....you are not ready to ACCEPT,ADMIT,REALIZE your MISTAKES.

The solution is really that simple...you really don't have to do anything....you have to just keep quiet....stop doing the things..!!!

The cat drinks the milk by shutting it's eyes...but others are watching....aren't they??

Ignoring the solution by saying it laughable wouldn't really take you to peace!!

One must learn to accept the mistake first to correct it....if really wants to..

Anyways....See, a country is not just a piece of land or some corporation formed!! It's about the tendencies of people who formed it and ruled it.

Though US is formed quite latter, the communities which formed it existed since long back....they acquired the prosperous land, exploited native americans & resources, they formed their colonies & latter denied to accept the command of their masters....they formed their own nation on the acquired land and declared that NOW THEY ARE INDEPENDENT!!!!.............................
....so how can one escape by saying that they are too young to do the blunder??? The corporation formed may be new but the people who formed it are not new ,their tendencies are not new, the communities are not new....they must consider themselves fully responsible for what & where they are now.....

Well...I'm not saying this to blame the nation, this is just for explaining how you can't escape by saying that you were not existed when others were fighting...rather accept the truth that you were always leading the fights ALL OVER THE PLANET.

No need to repeat I guess...Accept & correct your mistakes if you really want peace....!! We are human beings, we can be peaceful for ever only if we all are peaceful.

It wouldn't be possible for anyone, however powerful he may be to sleep with peace by leaving other's restless.

All the best!



it also has to do with who thinks they're right and everyone else is wrong... the word "your" was used a lot in your reply...

no photo
Tue 09/08/15 02:09 PM




Good question!

Yes there is A solution....simple but hard for US to implement.

Just stop encouraging other nation's conflicts & leave the desire to be super power.

Let the peace (Not US) rule the whole world & mankind........the peace will flow from those countries & communities to you slowly & silently.

The U.S. was not around in 3,000 BC when apparent conflicts already existed. Your statement is laughable. But go ahead and attribute all the woes of humankind onto the U.S.; how predictable.



really love when People try to blame the Ills that have plagued Humanity over the last ten-thousand years on one of the youngest Nations,that's not even three-hundred years old!laugh


Well guys....I said and you proved it without any delay!!!

It's really very HARD for you to implement JUST BECAUSE....you are not ready to ACCEPT,ADMIT,REALIZE your MISTAKES.

The solution is really that simple...you really don't have to do anything....you have to just keep quiet....stop doing the things..!!!

The cat drinks the milk by shutting it's eyes...but others are watching....aren't they??

Ignoring the solution by saying it laughable wouldn't really take you to peace!!

One must learn to accept the mistake first to correct it....if really wants to..

Anyways....See, a country is not just a piece of land or some corporation formed!! It's about the tendencies of people who formed it and ruled it.

Though US is formed quite latter, the communities which formed it existed since long back....they acquired the prosperous land, exploited native americans & resources, they formed their colonies & latter denied to accept the command of their masters....they formed their own nation on the acquired land and declared that NOW THEY ARE INDEPENDENT!!!!.............................
....so how can one escape by saying that they are too young to do the blunder??? The corporation formed may be new but the people who formed it are not new ,their tendencies are not new, the communities are not new....they must consider themselves fully responsible for what & where they are now.....

Well...I'm not saying this to blame the nation, this is just for explaining how you can't escape by saying that you were not existed when others were fighting...rather accept the truth that you were always leading the fights ALL OVER THE PLANET.

No need to repeat I guess...Accept & correct your mistakes if you really want peace....!! We are human beings, we can be peaceful for ever only if we all are peaceful.

It wouldn't be possible for anyone, however powerful he may be to sleep with peace by leaving other's restless.

All the best!


well,Old Son,maybe it's time that your Country starts to rake the Chestnuts out of the Fire for the UN,and see how they will like to get vilified for it!


Seems to me others don't want us to do anything unless THEY want it but they don't turn away our help.



Yep, maybe they haven't heard the song

Hitler has only got one ball
Goring has two but very small
Himmler has something sim'lar
But poor old Goebbels has no balls at all ohwell

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 09/08/15 02:09 PM

New Zealand is not so pristine ..just come into ED on a Saturday night .. You will see it all . We have racial cultural and domestic violence .. Poor socioeconomic groups and inequality . Sure not to the scale of the usa but we are a much smaller , younger country .. It is all relative . We may way the banner of peace and conservation but we have many skeletons in our closet pitchfork


You are right. No country is sinshine and lollipops. I think most know about the US because of damn Hollywood

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 09/08/15 02:10 PM





Good question!

Yes there is A solution....simple but hard for US to implement.

Just stop encouraging other nation's conflicts & leave the desire to be super power.

Let the peace (Not US) rule the whole world & mankind........the peace will flow from those countries & communities to you slowly & silently.

The U.S. was not around in 3,000 BC when apparent conflicts already existed. Your statement is laughable. But go ahead and attribute all the woes of humankind onto the U.S.; how predictable.



really love when People try to blame the Ills that have plagued Humanity over the last ten-thousand years on one of the youngest Nations,that's not even three-hundred years old!laugh


Well guys....I said and you proved it without any delay!!!

It's really very HARD for you to implement JUST BECAUSE....you are not ready to ACCEPT,ADMIT,REALIZE your MISTAKES.

The solution is really that simple...you really don't have to do anything....you have to just keep quiet....stop doing the things..!!!

The cat drinks the milk by shutting it's eyes...but others are watching....aren't they??

Ignoring the solution by saying it laughable wouldn't really take you to peace!!

One must learn to accept the mistake first to correct it....if really wants to..

Anyways....See, a country is not just a piece of land or some corporation formed!! It's about the tendencies of people who formed it and ruled it.

Though US is formed quite latter, the communities which formed it existed since long back....they acquired the prosperous land, exploited native americans & resources, they formed their colonies & latter denied to accept the command of their masters....they formed their own nation on the acquired land and declared that NOW THEY ARE INDEPENDENT!!!!.............................
....so how can one escape by saying that they are too young to do the blunder??? The corporation formed may be new but the people who formed it are not new ,their tendencies are not new, the communities are not new....they must consider themselves fully responsible for what & where they are now.....

Well...I'm not saying this to blame the nation, this is just for explaining how you can't escape by saying that you were not existed when others were fighting...rather accept the truth that you were always leading the fights ALL OVER THE PLANET.

No need to repeat I guess...Accept & correct your mistakes if you really want peace....!! We are human beings, we can be peaceful for ever only if we all are peaceful.

It wouldn't be possible for anyone, however powerful he may be to sleep with peace by leaving other's restless.

All the best!


well,Old Son,maybe it's time that your Country starts to rake the Chestnuts out of the Fire for the UN,and see how they will like to get vilified for it!


Seems to me others don't want us to do anything unless THEY want it but they don't turn away our help.



Yep, maybe they haven't heard the song

Hitler has only got one ball
Goring has two but very small
Himmler has something sim'lar
But poor old Goebbels has no balls at all ohwell


Seriously? I would love if we focused on us instead of everyone else.

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