'We are in a police state right now'

Americans warned to 'push back' before it's too late

Americans are increasingly living in a police state, and the road looks very bleak unless citizens stop being complacent and take back their government, according to Rutherford Institute President John Whitehead.

Whitehead is the author of the new book, "Battlefield America: The War on the American People." It's his second book on this issue. In 2013, he published "A Government of Wolves: The Emerging American Police State."

The issue is taking on additional urgency this week after an online news article chronicled how police stormed into the homes of three supporters of Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker in the middle of the night, subjecting the citizens to intense harassment simply for backing Walker's collective bargaining reforms in the state. None of them were ever charged.

Whitehead said episodes like that are becoming less of an exception and more of a rule.

"The government is watching everything you're doing," Whitehead said. "We are in a police state right now. The question is, can we push it back?"

http://www.wnd.com/2015/04/we-are-in-a-police-state-right-now/

OK.... it's a WND posting but it doesn't change the source of the quote or info

Denial runs deep.
People love their boxes they created or that were created for them.
And truly want to believe that mommy & daddy know best & are looking out for their best interest & that they are safe & secure.

No further comment

Bye now

i still laugh when people talk about there rights
you have no rights
just all an illusion
same with privacy
that got tossed out the window a while back
now they want are guns
soon it will be are butter knifes
dont get me started on the stuff they call food : (

Some of us still like to believe there is hope.... and honor.... and morals.... and a love of liberty

Only a liberal would vote to take away their own rights.....

Rights have been slipping away for decades. A little here, a little there.

People can ***** about their rights being taken away. Or, they can do something about it.

A person unwilling to fight and die to preserve their rights, doesn't deserve them in the first place.

Don't have to stand tall.
Just stand up.

I listened to drudge on the alex jones show the other day..

I am not a fan of jones but when I heard drudge was on I wanted to hear what he had to say..

They were talking about the second amendment and drudge went off..

He called for Clinton and Obama to drop their secret service protection and for Obama to turn the white house into a gun free zone..

The best part was he said they wouldn't last a week...

It really doesn't help the battle for freedom and liberty, to post lies, fantasies, myths, and other false or misleading things about the problems.

And conflating and confusing issues as is happening here, makes it easier, not harder, for the bad guys to win.

There is no militarization of the police or warrantless wiretaps or meta data collection or indefinite detention or having a drone drop a bomb on your head...

All of these are lies myths and fabrications because the government says so..

And what about you toothpaste ? I've had my toothpaste confiscated by security at the airport.But then I'm Irish and a possible terrorist with a stick of dynamite hidden in my toothpaste.

Well new info about the Iran deal makes the U.S. maybe look like a banana republic?

Seems the deal with Iran has a section buried in it that says foreign subsidiaries of U.S. companies will now, under certain conditions, be allowed to do business with Iran.

Problem is that section is in direct violation of a law Obama signed in 2012 saying U.S. subsidiaries are to be treated like the parent company, and as such cannot do business with Iran.

The only way U.S. companies can do business is if a) The State Department says Iran doesn't sponsor terrorism anymore. (Yeah, ok.) OR b) The President declares Iran has abandoned all programs for a nuclear weapon. (Something he can't prove to any appreciable degree.)

So, does Obama repeal his own 2012 law, or does he tell people to simply ignore that law and trade with Iran anyway, because it's more politically useful at election time for the Dems?

Maybe he just says "Oh, we trust Iran. I say we can trade with them now." and waves the hand of an emperor to the unwashed hoards......

I know, if I were you, I would would stop reading them. Then you wouldn't be confused and contaflated.

Please enlighten us.

i'll have to re-read this tomorrow........when i'm sober...

No worry,'The Department Of Truth' will son do that!

"FIFA discussing delaying presidential election: sources" -

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0S31IY20151009/

I don't myself think that delaying the choice of a new President for the International Football (Soccer) Federation is a particularly worrisome concern. Of course, I've never been a huge fan of soccer.

As for the rest of this...


I have grown up hearing paranoid warnings and rants from leftists and rightists and UFO fanatics for my whole life.

What I have seen again and again, is that once a person has a mind to "see" bad guys pulling stunts, they will see every adverse situation, every dumb mistake by over-zealous police, every badly designed piece of legislation, and every poorly written "news" report as The Next Important Threat To Liberty Everywhere.

I am an Historian, who has studied enough to be well aware that SOME threats and plots and nasty activities really are the direct result of greedy, crafty, power-hungry people trying to pull a fast one. I was in my late teens early twenties when the Watergate mess began to be investigated, and I thought from the day after the arrest of the burglars that something important was going on. I followed everything closely from beginning to end.

Although I turned out to be right to be paranoid about Nixon and his people, it was really more chance than insight on my part. I also at that time, still thought that Kennedy had been assassinated by a vast array of evil conspirators as well, and so I was ready to see insidious plots at the drop of a fingerprint.

Ultimately, what I learned about watching for Evil Plots, is that the only way to be appropriately wary and not lose your life's time to nonsense, is to check with each claimed "plot" event, whether there is direct FACTUAL evidence connecting it MECHANICALLY to other ones which the alarmists point to.

In the case of Watergate, actual direct connections were found again and again, between the burglars and the President. In the case of the Kennedy assassination, no mechanical connections were ever found between all the creepy coincidental details, and Oswald.

Excerpt from IgorFrankensteen:

In the case of Watergate, actual direct connections were found again and again, between the burglars and the President. In the case of the Kennedy assassination, no mechanical connections were ever found between all the creepy coincidental details, and Oswald.

So having satisfactorily resolved the Kennedy and Watergate issues and consigned them to the annals of history can you please provide the less informed amongst the group where we can find the information which will enable us to continue the present day battle for freedom and liberty and avoid the lies,fantasies, myths, and other false or misleading things about the problems.We don't all have the skills resources and time to do this research.But before you spend too much time on your mission,how do we know that you are not a perpetrator of said lies,myths and fantasies.Perhaps you too are from the "Department of Truth" Conrad is referring too.

So having satisfactorily resolved the Kennedy and Watergate issues and consigned them to the annals of history can you please provide the less informed amongst the group where we can find the information which will enable us to continue the present day battle for freedom and liberty and avoid the lies,fantasies, myths, and other false or misleading things about the problems.We don't all have the skills resources and time to do this research.But before you spend too much time on your mission,how do we know that you are not a perpetrator of said lies,myths and fantasies.Perhaps you too are from the "Department of Truth" Conrad is referring too.


The fact that you DON'T know whether I am a disinformant or not, is a good first step lesson for you to teach yourself.

I would suggest that you start by assuming as little as possible. However, that includes most specifically, that you should not assume NEFARIOUSNESS any more than you should assume honesty.

It is the LACK of supporting factual and structural information that you should always look for, whenever someone comes to you and wants you to react to what they tell you is a threat to your well being.

In this case, the suggestion that we are "already living in a police state," you should begin by looking into and understanding for yourself, exactly what a Police State actually IS.

Then, I would suggest as an exercise, that you try to play the part of each of the possible kinds of people who would be involved in such a threat.

I have observed (and I would suggest you look for yourself) that people who want us to worry about things, aren't all alike.

* Some are selling things. They want us to worry that if we fail to blindly buy their products, that our lives and loves will suffer.

* Some are buying things. Votes, in particular. Many politicians want us to fear something enough to give them power or money. real Police States have been set up using this technique. To deal with these people, you must examine each power they call for you to award them, and decide whether or not it makes MECHANICAL sense to you, that giving them that power will indeed solve the problem. Or if the problem itself, actually is as they describe it.

* Some are trying to get us to let our guard DOWN, and to make us fear police, so that we will voluntarily disassemble our own protections against their criminality. This happens on all levels. Thieves want us to do away with police monitoring, and tell us it's an invasion of our privacy, so that they can then steal from us with impunity. Some corporate greedos want us to do away with regulations that limit their ability to ignore our health and safety, so that they can make a lot more money, and avoid legal responsibility for their actions.

You don't so much need to "find information," as you need to sit down and teach yourself to reason more directly. And then demand that those who want you to be afraid, prove to YOU that the threat they claim, actually exists.

Have them be specific. Most people who want you to worry in order to promote their own selfish ends, want you to fear something that is relatively vague, as far as it relates directly to you. This "police state" fantasy is a perfect example of that. Calling it a "police state" because some police HAVE been found exceeding their authority, is actually a contradiction. If it were a "police state," then the fact that these incident happened would not be newsworthy.

If you fear that accepting misbehavior by authorities can lead to a "police state," then follow the stories, and lobby for the authorities in question to be prosecuted.

Read more history. Most "police states" that have come into being, were the direct result of the citizens being brought to FEAR the loss of their liberty, by those who offered to "free" them.

i really don't think he was expecting a detailed, self righteous and arrogant answer... if you really think we are "free", then you're deluded by your self proclaimed brilliance...