misunderstanding? more snow and ice = global warming? by all means, explain, please...

It's colder in Western Australia than normal.I wonder if it's because I didn't put a fire down last night or is this the start of global cooling ? I'll wait another day or two before jumping to conclusions.
I see Tom who is in the Northern hemisphere is experiencing similar discrepancies in weather patterns.There has to be something going on.

You guys are conflating two separate things.

1) Global Climate Change

2) Man Made Climate Change.

mightyjoe:

If you haven't understood the MANY times this has been explained in the media and online, you aren't going to listen to me either. You are a grown up person, who is capable of looking up the answer to your question if it is genuine, but since I can tell it isn't (you are obviously one of those who refuse to recognize that the world can get warm in one place and get cold in another), I'm not going to play into your game.

It used to be believed that there was no way that human activity could possible change something as big as a river or an ocean. But at least MOST people recognize that pollution can and will poison rivers and oceans, and that we CAN kill ecosystems.

It used to be believed that there was no way that human activity could possible change something as big as a river or an ocean. But at least MOST people recognize that pollution can and will poison rivers and oceans, and that we CAN kill ecosystems.

i still call weather changes weather patterns... man made destruction of eco systems isn't weather related... still not sure just what you're talking about here... the sun/ earths positioning controls 80-90% of the weather on earth, the rest would be earth related problems, like volcanoes throwing to much dust in the air at once... there's lots of animal dies offs in the past, all happening before man was around... to say man is causing it would be inconclusive at best..

The Great Oxygenation Event suggests that free oxygen was first produced by prokaryotic and then later eukaryotic organisms that carried out oxygenic photosynthesis, producing oxygen as a waste product. These organisms lived long before the GOE, perhaps as early as 3,500 million years ago.(3.5 Billion)

The oxygen they produced would have quickly been removed from the atmosphere by the weathering of reduced minerals, most notably iron. This 'mass rusting' led to the deposition of iron oxide to form banded-iron formations such as those sediments in Minnesota and Pilbara, Western Australia.

Oxygen only began to persist in the atmosphere in small quantities shortly (~50 million years) before the start of the GOE. Without a draw-down, oxygen could accumulate very rapidly.

Either way, the oxygen did eventually accumulate in the atmosphere, with two major consequences. First, it oxidized atmospheric methane (a strong greenhouse gas) to carbon dioxide (a weaker one) and water, triggering the Huronian glaciation.

The latter may have been a full-blown, and possibly the longest ever, snowball Earth episode, lasting 300–400 million years.

i still call weather changes weather patterns... man made destruction of eco systems isn't weather related... still not sure just what you're talking about here... the sun/ earths positioning controls 80-90% of the weather on earth, the rest would be earth related problems, like volcanoes throwing to much dust in the air at once... there's lots of animal dies offs in the past, all happening before man was around... to say man is causing it would be inconclusive at best..

Global Warming means the average temperature of the entire globe is warming. And the alarmists claim that that's what's happening and that it's due to humans' barely increasing the tiny amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, when CO2 is one of the weakest greenhouse gases.

By diverting people's attention away from all of the other types of real pollution that the 1% is responsible for, which is actually harming humanity and the biosphere, they can keep that up without the rest of us waking up and trying to put a stop to their ill-gotten gains, i.e. profit = greed.

There is barely any change, if at all, in the average temperature and precipitation swings. The slight CO2 increase has actually increased the global biomass significantly. If anyone wants to sequester CO2, the way to do it sanely is to use Allan Savory's and Gabe Brown's methods of increasing organic matter in the soil, which greatly improves soil and food crops and livestock production. These are promising means of ending desertification.

What alarmists don't want to consider is that conventional thinking about the age of the Earth could be wrong, when objective science is finding that it very likely is, at least regarding the surface features. By surface features I mean the sedimentary rock strata, which are mainly on the continents.

Geologists jumped to the conclusion in the 1800s I think that strata were deposited gradually over millions of years. But it's becoming increasingly obvious that that is wrong. The strata were much more likely deposited all at once over a short period of time. Creationists have been the main supporters of such findings, but we need not believe in creation or any kind of religion in order to see the plausibility of these findings.

It appears that the Moon or some other body came close to Earth at an unknown time in the past and lost part or all of its mass to the Earth, which formed the Supercontinent, consisting of precambrian granite mostly. Life and humans developed there. Then about 4,400 years ago asteroid impacts occurred, causing all of the craters found on Earth. One of the impacts was large enough to break apart the Supercontinent and cause rapid continental drift. See the "Shock Dynamics" video on Youtube for details http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IIE8UnvPUg. The video shows how the continents were pushed apart and how mountains formed, but it doesn't show what happened to the ocean waters.

Of course the oceans would have produced huge tsunamis. Before the mountains built up, the tsunamis would have washed over all of the land masses. The tsunamis deposited sediments over several weeks or months about a mile thick in all. And fossils formed as animals and plants were buried in the sediments. This paper http://www.socalsem.edu/2015/08/09/noahs-flood-the-key-to-correct-interpretation-of-earth-history/ gives a persuasive account of how the strata were deposited etc.

So, if the rock strata were deposited that recently (and likewise regarding glaciation, as ancient maps show Greenland and Antarctica without any ice etc), then all of the climate data thought to be from before the cataclysm is wrong. The ice age appears to have occurred immediately after the cataclysm and the Earth has been on a slow warming trend ever since.

lol, you should be a comedian...

Velikovsky got nothing on him!

i don't think there are any impact craters younger than 50,000 years old on earth... maybe wolf crater, in AZ... but i don't think i've read any bigger babble than this in a while...

More frequent and longer lasting droughts, more frequent and more intense wild fires, higher sea temperatures, more frequent coral bleaching, disappearing Pacific islands, coastal storms breaching levvys and flood mitigation works more often.
It's not global warming, but mentally retarded over breeding greedy humans being everywhere, and getting in the way of natural climate processes, and complaining about it. But do you learn - obviously not. Coastal canal suburbs, filling in low lying swamp and marshland for housing, building on coastal sand dunes. Killing off sea grass fields and biodiversity with suburban stormwater runoff pollution. Massive land clearances for broadacre farming changing inland environmental conditions and rain patterns. Deforestation to build crappy houses that blow away in tornadoes, so you build another one the same way. Trillions spent on paranoia in defence spending when all of the protagonists are in the same club, where war is just theatre, and only serves to put tax payers money in the hands of arms manufacturer owners, the instigators of the conflicts.
Just like stupid ants in the pathway, getting stepped on all the time, the ants - like us, don't learn, but clear the dead, bite you, and continue the same as always.
Religion is the biggest Hoax ever perpetrated on Humanity!
God will save us; god will fix it; it's god's will, god will return one day; a man of god can be trusted; in god we trust. The proof is in the complete lack of the pudding. Save me Jeebers.

Nuc power is a false economy. Who is going to pay for a 25,000 year management plan for the waste. Or 80,000 years, or 250,000 years half life. The suits, and 'Doctor Strangeloves' get their money for their stupid deadly ideas, have a good life of maybe 100 years or so, die, and leave the rest of the world with their problem of the waste they created for tens of thousands, and hundreds of thousands of years. Thousands of generations living with the still dangerous waste.
We need to be kinder to the planet, and demand less of it, and then it will cope better with global warming, no matter what the cause. Traditional cultures don't destroy the biodiversity that renews the life on the lands. And no I'm not a liberal or green or other party following fool. All politics is distraction and theatre for the masses - it's not real, they are all puppets following orders not from us.