By Janorama and Backpack, March, 2016, San Diego, CA

President Barak Hussein Obama by-passed several Mosques in the Washington D.C. Metro area to bestow the power of the presidency and the bully pulpit at a publicized round table at the Islamic Center of Baltimore with Muslim clerics. This mosque is notorious for providing a known safe haven and Podium for Al Qaeda terrorists and aggressively promotes Jihad.

Perhaps it’s because he was making faces in Qur’an class instead of paying attention to his teacher. Or maybe he just has a selective memory about what he was taught as a young Muslim student in Indonesia.

Whatever the reason, President Barack Obama got a lot of things factually wrong in his 3 February 2016 speech at the Islamic Center of Baltimore. Things that are basic to doctrinal Islam are not only knowable because they are readily available in English but, it might be argued, obligatory that an American commander-in-chief should know in fulfillment of his oath to defend the Constitution against “all enemies foreign and domestic.”

First, Mr. President, a mosque is not simply the Muslim version of a church, synagogue or temple. Because of the example of Muhammad, who is called the perfect man in the Qur’an (believed by Muslims to be the exact words of Allah), we know that mosques are established not only as places of prayer and worship, Islam Will Dominatebut also as centers for indoctrination, the dispensing of shariah justice, the stockpiling of weapons, and the launching of jihad. If in doubt about any of this, please check with the French police, who recently have been conducting raids on mosques and Islamic Centers in the wake of horrific jihadist attacks in Paris.

The president must have missed more than one lesson on Arabic grammar, too. When he claims that “the word itself, Islam, comes from salam—peace,” he is mistaken. While the words “Islam” and “salam” share the same three root letters—s, l, m—they are, in fact, very different words with completely different meanings. While “salam” indeed means “peace” in Arabic, “Islam” means “submission.” Submission to what? To Allah and Islamic Law. A “Muslim” is a person who submits. Surely the president knows this. Or maybe the White House Arabic language translator needs to be replaced.

Unfortunately, in pursuit of that submission, Islamic doctrine obligates Muslim conquest of the Dar al-Harb (places not yet subjugated to shariah). We know this Obama Bows Before His Kingnot only from the example of Muhammad’s own life as taught to Muslim students from the 1st grade, but also from the Qur’an and hadiths. For example, Qur’an verse 9:29 says: “Fight those who believe not… until they pay the jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.” The Qur’an is quite clear in verse 3:85 as well: ‘Whoever seeks a religion other than Islam will never have it accepted of him…’ Islamic Law defines jihad quite simply: “Jihad means to war against non-Muslims.”

This is not cherry-picking Qur’anic verses. This is Islamic doctrine as uniformly presented in the Qur’an, hadiths, biography of Muhammad, and Islamic Law. It is the agreed consensus of all authoritative Islamic scholars throughout the centuries. We may wish that more Muslim scholars would teach the prohibition of terror (jihad). But of course, they cannot teach what is contrary to Islamic doctrine. For the Qur’an itself commands Muslims to “make ready your strength to the utmost of your power… to strike terror into the hearts of the enemy.” (Q 8:60)

And when the President purports to quote the Qur’an about killing an innocent, he either willfully or out of ignorance is misquoting Islamic scripture. In fact, Qur’an verse 5:32 cites fBehead Those Who Insult Islamrom a Jewish commentary on the Talmud: “On that account, We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone slew a person—unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land—it would be as if he slew the whole people…” This is the definition of killing without right in Islam. The takeaway here is that a Muslim may not kill except those who themselves have killed without right or perpetrated “mischief in the land”—which may include failing to accept Islam. What the President and others too often leave out is the next verse, Q 5:33, which lays out the punishments for those who disobey 5:32. They are: “death, crucifixion, amputation of the hand and foot on opposite sides or exile from the land.” The President might be asked why he left those out, when they are precisely the punishments the Islamic State (IS) is applying to those under its control in faithful obedience to what they believe is the word of Allah. This isn’t an IS version or interpretation of the Qur’an. It is what the Qur’an actually says.

These are just a few of the things the President might have said, were his intention to be accurate about the enemy we fight. He might have added that we are not actually fighting terrorism: we are fighting to defend the Constitution from attack by forces of jihad seeking to impose shariah. This does not mean we must be at war with all Muslims. But all those who fight or support the Global Jihad Movement are on the wrong side of our Declaration of Independence, Constitution, and the way of life Americans treasure because, unlike Islamic doctrine, they enshrine principles of individual liberty, equality before man-made law, government by consent of the governed, and the right to freedoms of belief and speech.

Those, Mr. President, are the “first things” principles we Americans are willing to fight and die for. American Muslims who accept and defend them are patriots, too—but unfortunately, these are not principles to be found anywhere in the authoritative Islamic canon—and Americans need to know that.

Clare M. Lopez is a 22 year CIA veteran currently Vice President for Research and Analysis at the Center for Security Policy.

I believe it was you Moe, who posted once..

That Obama will publicly declare himself, before he leaves office, so that he can be remembered in history as 'The first Muslim President'

It sure looks that way.

i don't think it was me, i've always wondered why a muslim was voted in while all of our war efforts are aimed at muslims...

kind of like France voting in a German during WW2, would make no sense whatsoever...

Or a dog biting your hand so you offer him your other one.
*I will never understand, the two terms in office*

so he is muslim when he acknowledges and speaks with muslim americans as he does Christian americans



but he is also muslim because he allegedly DOESNT know muslim tradition,,,,and the author,, a US veteran,,,does



got it

Found it .. .

Best comment of the day..on Jihad Watch.

February 5, 2016 at 2:03 pm

"I think that it’s been proven that the American voter is very short in the memory department. Which is why Obama is visiting this mosque now. Voters will forget come election time. Shortly after the election, I predict that he will make a “conversion” to Islam so that he can be the first moslem in the White House (officially). He simply won’t be able to resist as his regime draws to a close. It will be his “crowing achievement”. Just watch."

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/02/obama-we-cant-suggest-that-islam-itself-is-at-the-root-of-the-problem-that-betrays-our-values/

I strongly suggest you read the rest of the Qur'an, instead of picking out a few lines which are out of context. FYI the definition of the word "jihad" is "to struggle and strive"
. Stop spreading hate. How many countries have been illegally occupied by America? .. Its not a coincidence that so many muslims are committing these acts against America ( in the name of Jihad) As we speak, air strikes are being dropped on innocent children and women in Syria. Your logic must be that they're justified killings in the name of defence, right? Wrong. Its systematic genocide. The Qur'an states that in a war; women, children, animals & crops must be kept safe. (For the record, i along with 99% of muslims don't agree in the taking of an innocent life)

Islam is the fastest growing religion! Why do you think that is? I think the fear of its continual growth is what scares most anti-muslims. The words remain the same after 1400 years, on the other hand, there is a new testament of the bible released every year. Therefore, making it a "man-made" religion. I don't have one christian friend that goes to the church.

In my opinion, the western countries inflict more terror on muslims in the east instead of the other way around.

I suggest you learn the facts, before talking complete BS.

The definition for "islam" is peace. Muslims greet each other with the words "islam-u alaykum" which means, " peace be upon you"

I do however condemn ISIS, they do NOT represent muslims. An example is, blaming the whole of christianity for the KKK. Its unjust.

How convenient to condemn ISIS & wash hands.
How convenient to overlook cancer spreading in Islam across the world
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Islam is great within Islamic countries. Been there & seen it's play.
Keeps the migrant workers in check also.
I read the Koran & have a copy.

Islam means peace: peace for Islam-ists.
As you rightly pointed out rest are xxxxxd up world anyway.
If you can't see this the one singular problem in Islam
you are what Americans call: into Denial.
your mind is still in 17th century or earlier.
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Case study of recent centuries of history:
Islamic and Brit conquest of India
(both for economic reasons initially)

the Brits ruled large parts of India for 400 years
towards last 200 years, all of India.
they may have ripped the economy; introduced Christianity but for most part did not intrude into Islam or Hindu traditions.

Before the Brits, Islamic conquerors ruled most of India
for 500 years
destroyed temples; built mosques over them.

for instance Kashmir was an extension of Tibetan culture
all Buddhists.
All male unarmed Buddhists were killed.
a Muslim dairy reads: 'it was like slaughtering cows'
But the world was different place 400 - 900 years ago!
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in India, 30% Muslims; extremely few in our defense forces.
Fact is for a Muslim; Islam comes before country.
Except in countries like Bangladesh, Indonesia and so on.

This excludes the modern generation of educated Muslims;
principally Emirates: Qatar - headquarters of Al Zahira

recently, Muslim women in Mumbai, India raised protest against
male dominant Mosques. But a long way to go.

The solution is obvious. You want to stay in Rome? Then be a Roman.
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But I would give Mr. Obama a high five on this initiative.
Encouraging American Muslims to embrace a new way of life.
Else: risk isolation.

Pragmatic too:
After all, Pakistan & Saudi Arabia are staunch American allies.

May be American Muslims would bring a change within
like a UK Muslim 'Salman Rushdie' tried.
Finally making sense why he received the Nobel

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Why Islam never accepted Christianity as a brother religion
is a puzzle to me.
After all both refer to the Old Testament of Judaism.

And now with Christian nations opening to Syrians
a glimmer of changes to come??

there is a possibility that you might have to read the Koran again,in the light of Abrogation!
Everything Mohamed added to the Koran in Medina abrogates what was written earlier in Mecca!
In Medina Mohamed got the upper Hand,and acted accordingly,morphed to a Political Leader and Warlord from the "Preacher" and "Prophet" he pretended to be in Mecca!

http://www.renewamerica.com/analyses/060630hutchison.htm

The enigma of Islam: The two faces of Muhammad


American Muslims tell us that Islam is a religion of peace. Jihadist leaders abroad describe Islam as a religion of war against infidels. Who is correct? Both are correct.

If both are correct, does this mean that there are two Muhammads and two Qurans? Yes, in the sense that Muhammad was like two different persons at two different times and the Quran is like two contradictory books pasted together.

Now that you are thoroughly confused, let us turn to history and to the book Islam and the Bible: Why two faiths collide (2004), by David Goldmann, veteran missionary to Muslims in Morocco, for the solution to this riddle.

Muhammad (circa 570–632 A.D.) was born in Mecca and was a traveling merchant until age 40. From 610–622 he had a ministry in Mecca as a prophet of Allah. In 622, he fled from his enemies in Mecca and led his followers to Medina. Through tribal political alliances, Muhammad soon became the ruler of Medina. He ruled Medina until his death (622–632).

According to Mr. Goldmann, Muhammad as ruler of Medina had a strikingly different character than when he was the prophet of Mecca. The Quranic verses he penned in Mecca often contradict the verses he wrote in Medina. Let us compare the two Muhammads and the two Qurans. The following numbered examples are paraphrases of points in Goldmann's book. My commentaries on the numbered statements are in parentheses.

Mecca versus Medina

(1) In Mecca, Muhammad preached and exhorted people to submit to Islam. In Medina, he used the threat of the sword to compel people to convert to Islam.

(According to the Medina verses, Allah accepts converts who do not believe in him inwardly, but will kneel to him outwardly under threat of death. Muhammad did not have this view of Allah until he became a war lord and used force to compel people to accept his rule.)

(2) In Mecca, Muhammad led the life of a teacher and prophet and followed disciplines of prayer, fasting, and worship. In Medina, he was the political ruler and the military commander. During his ten years in Medina, he personally led 27 military attacks. Prior to his death, he conquered most of the Arabian peninsula.

(The Allah of Medina allowed his prophet to be a warlord seeking military conquest. In like manner, he encourages Muslim leaders to spread the religion of Islam by the sword--which they did on an epic scale after the death of Muhammad. The conquests continued until the Muslims met those with stronger armies, or they outran their supply lines. The Muslims eventually conquered about 50% of the Christian world--the eastern Mediterranean lands, the Middle East, and North Africa--and gradually extinguished most of the Christian testimony in those lands.)

(The Westward rush of conquest was halted exactly a century after Muhammad's death. The Muslim army in Spain attacked Gaul [France] and was defeated by Charles the Hammer at the battle of Tours [732 A.D.]. Muslims subsequently switched to expansion through proselytizing and mercantile colonies. However, when new Muslim nations arose with great armies [e.g., Seljuk Turks, Ottoman Turks, and Moguls], they reverted to the expansion of Islam through conquest. The Ottoman Turks conquered the remains of the Christian Byzantine Empire and took Constantinople in 1453. They attacked Europe from the east in 1529 and 1683, and both times were stopped at the gates of Vienna by European armies. Three times [732, 1529 & 1683], Christian civilization in Europe came close to extinction from invading Muslim armies.)

(The Article is quite long,and I posted only a small excerpt of it!)

and now they are on the march westward again,this time Conquest by Immigration,another one of Mohamed's Tenets!

Hello Jai,

Much respect to you & all my Hindi friends.

However... I have as much inclination & respect to post to an Islamic man & explain myself... ?
As an Islamic man has to a Jewish or Christian woman.
Or any woman.

Hhhaaa. What does that tell you? Simple. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
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Bye now

hahahaha
thanks Sassy.

the last were rhetorics.
more for the newbie to reflect on.

Yea right, tell that to Israel.

I typed that he would write a book after leaving office called "The First Muslim President of the United States and How I Duped the Useful Idiots into Defending my Transformation of America to Third World Status"

I knew my quest started out here.

I will need an autographed copy.

then i guess Israel will be peacefully wiped off the map?

You think like many others, i.e., "it's not my fight", "it's not my religion", "I don't have to take any of the blame for what is happening worldwide in my my religion."

However, the truth is ...

There are basic flaws in the teachings of Islam.
There are basic flaws in the practice of Islam.
There were basic flaws in the creation of Islam.
All the terrorists who "practice" Islam the wrong way were taught by their parents, teachers, peers, and comrades.

Religion begins at home.

Enlighten me on these so called "flaws" ... I haven't seen any solid facts as of yet.
Many of these so called "terrorists" were once innocent civilians, whose family members were killed. Bombs were dropped on theirMothers, sisters, children while they slept at night. They struggled and strived while this continued... All of a sudden, they have nothing to lose. They want justice at any cost. They are desperate. Nobody would voluntarily strap themselves to a scuicide vest for no reason? It is a natural human instinct, a code of survival to protect ourselves. ISIS and other militant groups are wrong theres no doubt about it... But they are desperate. Put yourself in their shoes? What would you do in this situation? I for one would fight and protect my loved ones from oppression.

The "terrorists" are not the problem. They are the symptom of a much larger problem. The problem being oppression from the west.

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
- Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."
-Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."
-Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."
-Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people."


Bridgette Gabriel: gives a fantastic answer to a Muslim woman who claims 'all Muslims are peaceful'

http://youtu.be/Ry3NzkAOo3s/


A Muslim tired of lying: Muslims mistreated & killed Muslims

http://youtu.be/epQ6u0zrMJE/
02:40