Topic: Marine Corps: Female Leaders In Infantry
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Sat 03/26/16 03:07 PM
Marine Corps Begins Moving Female Leaders into Infantry Units.

http://m.military.com/daily-news/2016/03/17/marine-corps-begins-moving-female-leaders-into-infantry-units.html/


Military.com

As Marine Corps officials plan to move newly minted female riflemen into infantry units by early 2017, they're working to create a system that they believe will make the historic move successful.

Support jobs, ranging from logistics to administration, are now available to female Marines within infantry units, officials told reporters Thursday. The goal, they said, was to install female leaders at the units in keeping with a mandate from Defense Secretary Ashton Carter before the junior women arrived.

"Throughout the Marine Corps, everyone is now assignable to certain billets," said Col. Ann Weinberg, deputy director of the Marine Corps Force Innovation Office and one of the architects of the Corps' plan to incorporate women into previously closed ground combat units.

While a few billets will stay female-only and male-only, such as those for drill instructors overseeing recruits of the same gender, the exceptions are rare, Weinberg said.

The 233 female Marines who have already completed infantry training and received a secondary infantry military occupational specialty during previous research can request to make a lateral move into a ground combat unit at any time. But female recruits who want to enter a "loadbearing" ground combat specialty, such as rifleman or mortarman, will not be able to ship to boot camp until Oct. 1. Female recruits in non-loadbearing combat-arms fields, such as artillery or tanks, can begin boot camp June 1 at the earliest.
Setting conditions

This delay will give Marine officials the opportunity to ensure that senior female officers and enlisted Marines are in place before the junior Marines arrive. The goal is to have a female staff noncommissioned officer and an officer in support MOSs at each infantry battalion who will unofficially support the unit and new female members throughout the transition period.

"As soon as we get demand signals from junior female Marines matriculating into entry training pipeline to become 03XXs [the Marines' infantry designator], we'll start assigning senior female leadership to those infantry battalions as well," Weinberg said. "We've just got to manage the population and the inventory of that particular population. Setting the conditions is really where we are."

When the first female Marines enter the fleet as infantrymen, a process expected to start early next year, Weinberg said they will be assigned in pairs. Either two female Marines with the same MOS will go to the same unit, or if there isn't a second Marine available, a male and female Marine who have trained together in the same MOS will be assigned together.

"We found with previous experience especially with pilot pipeline that it doesn't matter if you're the same sex. What matters is that you've trained together, you know each other, and you trust each other," Weinberg said. "So you have that task cohesion ... I trust that you can do your job, you trust that I can do my job, we go into a unit together, we get assigned to the same unit, we all vouch for each other."

Once women have been installed in previously closed ground combat units, their progress and success will be measured with a longitudinal assessment plan designed to allow officials to make adjustments as needed. Lessons learned by the first generation of female infantrymen may help those that come after.

"The longitudinal assessment is going to take a look at propensity, performance, injury rates, career progression rates, command rates and take a look at that not just for women, but really throughout the Marine Corps," Weinberg said. "Because we haven't, to be perfectly honest, done a really good job of understanding what is it that keeps a Marine in, what is it that encourages a Marine to leave the Marine Corps, male or female, so we wanted to be able to capture those in terms of surveys at the end of the career, in the middle of the career, when you decide to get out, what are some of the factors going into that."
Waiting for recruits

One unknown could delay all these plans: the length of time it takes to see the first female Marines express interest in going infantry.

To date, none of the previously qualified 233 female Marines have requested a lateral move, though some have expressed interest in doing so in the future.

Brig. Gen. James Glynn, head of the Marine Corps' office of communication, noted that some of the qualified women had career concerns as well as circumstantial delays such as light duty status that made them temporarily ineligible for a move.

To date, no female recruits have requested to go infantry. Steve Wittle, a deputy assistant chief of staff, G3, at Marine Corps Recruiting Command, said the recruiting offices would keep a count of the women who requested newly available specialties. Meanwhile, MCRC is pushing information out to all the female poolees in the Corps' delayed entry program, he said, to inform them that they have the opportunity to change their desired field if they wish.

Perhaps one of the greatest unknowns is when a woman will make it through the Corps' grueling infantry officer course. To date, 29 female officers have attempted the course, but none have completed it. Officials said Thursday that one woman, whose name has not been released, is now preparing to attempt the course in coming months in hopes of becoming an infantry officer.

Still, Glynn said, the Marine Corps will be able to execute its integration plan even if IOC continues to stymie female Marines.

"I'm not going to sit here and hide behind it; it's definitely a challenge. Would we prefer to have it that way? Certainly we would. And I think if I were that young PFC reporting, I'd prefer to have it that way," Glynn said. "But where we sit right now, part of that experiential learning piece is going to be, we're quite likely going to learn that particular dimension without that in place."

With all units and jobs open to women, it is possible that a female Marine could end up involuntarily assigned an infantry MOS in the future. But Glynn said current demand for infantry jobs makes the chance of that happening slim.

"We haven't had to involuntarily assign someone to the infantry for decades," he said. "We fill that early in the year and it's actually quite competitive."

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Sat 03/26/16 03:27 PM
This delay will give Marine officials the
opportunity to ensure that senior female
officers and enlisted Marines are in place before
the junior Marines arrive. The goal is to have a
female staff noncommissioned officer and an
officer in support MOSs at each infantry
battalion who will unofficially support the unit
and new female members throughout the
transition period.

Translation:

"The delay with allow time for Obama to get the frick out of office amd we'll take our chances with the next president who's hopefully devoid of this PC feminist bull$hit."

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Sat 03/26/16 03:48 PM

This delay will give Marine officials the
opportunity to ensure that senior female
officers and enlisted Marines are in place before
the junior Marines arrive. The goal is to have a
female staff noncommissioned officer and an
officer in support MOSs at each infantry
battalion who will unofficially support the unit
and new female members throughout the
transition period.

Translation:

"The delay with allow time for Obama to get the frick out of office amd we'll take our chances with the next president who's hopefully devoid of this PC feminist bull$hit."
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Sat 03/26/16 04:05 PM


This delay will give Marine officials the
opportunity to ensure that senior female
officers and enlisted Marines are in place before
the junior Marines arrive. The goal is to have a
female staff noncommissioned officer and an
officer in support MOSs at each infantry
battalion who will unofficially support the unit
and new female members throughout the
transition period.

Translation:

"The delay with allow time for Obama to get the frick out of office amd we'll take our chances with the next president who's hopefully devoid of this PC feminist bull$hit."
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Got dangit Conrad....this subject irks me so bad! laugh
There is NO reason to do this other than political agenda....none. And its sad that Americans let it happen.
Theres a youtube vid out there of a respected former Marine Corps Commandant, Robert Barrow, testifying as to why this crap shouldnt happen.....and is he listened to? Helllllll no....

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Sat 03/26/16 04:13 PM



This delay will give Marine officials the
opportunity to ensure that senior female
officers and enlisted Marines are in place before
the junior Marines arrive. The goal is to have a
female staff noncommissioned officer and an
officer in support MOSs at each infantry
battalion who will unofficially support the unit
and new female members throughout the
transition period.

Translation:

"The delay with allow time for Obama to get the frick out of office amd we'll take our chances with the next president who's hopefully devoid of this PC feminist bull$hit."
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Got dangit Conrad....this subject irks me so bad! laugh
There is NO reason to do this other than political agenda....none. And its sad that Americans let it happen.
Theres a youtube vid out there of a respected former Marine Corps Commandant, Robert Barrow, testifying as to why this crap shouldnt happen.....and is he listened to? Helllllll no....
well,the Kenyan Lord of Chaos wants it,isn't that sufficient?bigsmile

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Sat 04/09/16 03:12 AM
armytimes.com

Army enlists first female infantry recruit

Grace Barnett takes the oath of enlistment Thursday in Shreveport, Louisiana.

Grace Barnett takes the oath of enlistment Thursday in Shreveport, Louisiana. less
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Grace Barnett poses with her report date to Fort Benning, Georgia, after enlisting in the infantry Thursday at Shreveport, Louisiana.



The Army's first female infantry recruit, a 25-year-old police officer from Louisiana, will report to basic training next year.

Tammy Grace Barnett took the oath of enlistment Thursday at Military Entrance Processing Station Shreveport. She plans to serve in military occupational specialty 11X, one of a series of MOSs that opened to women April 1.

Barnett initially visited Army recruiters in November, she said in an Army news release. She told TV station KSLA that she'd planned to enter the military police ranks, "but infantry is similar, and they are more on the front lines, like law enforcement here, and I said that's what I want to do."

She'll head to Fort Benning, Georgia, in June 2017 for basic training. The 14-month delay "is to allow the Army to properly prepare for new trainees by having trained female officers and [noncommissioned officers] in position," Army Recruiting Battalion Baton Rouge public affairs chief Roger Harmon said via email. "This allows female soldiers the opportunity to attend training and serve in a MOS previously only available to male soldiers."

Another MOS gender barrier fell recently at a recruiting station in Horseheads, a central New York town about 15 miles from the Pennsylvania border. There, Kaitlyn Stanton enlisted as a fire support specialist (MOS 13F), which opened to women April 1 along with 11-series specialties and other combat-related jobs.

Another female 13F recruit is set to enlist early next week in the Seattle area, a Recruiting Command spokesman said.

Barnett plans to celebrate her gender-equity milestone by going fishing with family this weekend. She also also made career plans.

"I have served the front lines in my hometown ... and now I am going to serve the front lines for my country,” Barnett said in the release. “I want to deploy, see action, and I definitely want to go to Airborne school.”

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Sat 04/09/16 07:44 AM
"I have served the front lines in my hometown ... and now I am going to serve the front lines for my country,”


I doubt she has taken any incoming artillery and mortar fire or many IED's.

All I can is good luck.. SMH

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Sat 04/09/16 09:36 AM
Edited by RebelArcher on Sat 04/09/16 09:36 AM
Barnett plans to celebrate her gender-equity
milestone by going fishing with family this
weekend.
I hope she falls in the lake....amd IF she passes the training, and IF standards arent lowered, $100 bucks says she pregnant within a year.

Why are we wasting all this time and effort on a handful of women who will NOT increase our military's readiness or effectiveness?

And a FWIW...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_THrH06h2U&itct=CCgQpDAYACITCNSy_6X8gcwCFa0jfgodXssMh1IbZmVtYWxlIHZzIG1hbGUgbWFyaW5lIHB1Z2ls&hl=en&gl=US&client=mv-google

The chick in Sassy's article looks abt the same size as the girl in the video that got her $hit caved in.

And one more since Sassys 2nd article was abt the Army:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rRfCpQx_FDE&itct=CCkQpDAYACITCPugk4z9gcwCFU61fgodBHcPDFIZYXJteSBmZW1hbGUgYm94ZXMgbWFyaW5lcw%3D%3D&hl=en&client=mv-google&gl=US

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Sat 04/09/16 10:00 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_J._Howard

Barry's Navy-Chief!

and his Secretary of the Navy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Mabus

noway huh

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Sat 04/09/16 11:34 AM

During a recent trip to Camp Lejeune, N.C., Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel met with 15 junior officers at the Marine Infantry School. He asked them about President Obama’s plans to assign women to Army and Marine infantry battalions, Special Operations Forces, and other “tip of the spear” fighting teams that conduct combat assaults.

When Secretary Hagel asked whether it was right to deny the opportunity to a woman who wants to join, a fearless captain replied, “I haven’t met a female Marine who is standing up and shouting, ‘I want to be infantry.’”

This must have been a shock, since the 15 Marines speaking to Hagel were not men; they were women. Similar opposition was registered when Military Times recently conducted an online survey asking active-duty female readers whether they would take a land-combat position if it were offered. Only 13 percent of the military women said yes, 9 percent weren’t sure, and a whopping 77 percent said no, they would not take a combat job.


http://www.nationalreview.com/article/358781/military-betrays-women-elaine-donnelly

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Sat 04/09/16 11:44 AM
CHARGE, she said,
and the enemy died laughing.
rofl rofl rofl rofl

no offense meant to women.
i mean Joan of Arc changed European history;
but she was galvanizing force for her motherland!!

Big difference.

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Sat 04/09/16 12:06 PM
From the doors of our Walmarts
To the aisles of JC Penny!

We shop our country's malls
For the best deals we can see

First to fight for those low prices
And to keep our credit clean

We are proud to claim the title
Of U.S. woman Marine!!

laugh

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Sat 04/09/16 12:51 PM

CHARGE, she said,
and the enemy died laughing.
rofl rofl rofl rofl


We are all going to die scared

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Sat 04/09/16 10:51 PM
Edited by JaiGi on Sat 04/09/16 10:54 PM


CHARGE, she said,
and the enemy died laughing.
rofl rofl rofl rofl


We are all going to die scared




FIRE, she screamed
and the enemy rushes in with buckets of water
"where, where, habibi, where?"
rofl rofl rofl rofl

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Sun 04/10/16 11:49 PM
Edited by JaiGi on Mon 04/11/16 12:10 AM



CHARGE, she said,
and the enemy died laughing.
rofl rofl rofl rofl


We are all going to die scared




FIRE, she screamed
and the enemy rushes in with buckets of water
"where, where, habibi, where?"
rofl rofl rofl rofl


then SHE looks at the massacre of the bucket men and says in trembling (in excitement) voice, "it's dirty work" ('excitement'sourced from Guatemala reports where a woman officer hosed down Arab prisoners who showed a flicker of lust)

marine, "yes Sargent, sure is"

"alright' SHE says, "what are you waiting for, lets not waste them"

marine, "great, no more canned beans, tonight is BBQ night"

SHE, "make sure i get a few of the larger cuts"

and as historically Adam followed Eve
thus a new era of warfare started..
the world over

in the name of 'EQUALITY' proscribed in some country's constitution
where their women are bloodthirsty about EQUALITy
a the battlefield, in the old World, another 'remote' hunting ground

rofl rofl rofl rofl