Topic: Bill Clinton vs #BLM Protesters
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Sun 04/10/16 02:51 AM
Edited by SassyEuro2 on Sun 04/10/16 03:16 AM
http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/NFL/2016/04/07/Ray-Lewis-questions-if-black-lives-really-matter/5421460001502/

"I'm trying to figure out if black lives really matter," Lewis said in the video..."The March murder rate rose by 29 percent, but we're not rioting in the streets over black-on-black crime."



* Which is ONE of the points, Bill Clinton was trying to make...AGAIN.
I am sure he can't wait to tell this group (#BLM) they are a waste of space & energy & that him & his wife & the country never did give a sh@t. Why should they? Black lives don't matter to the black community.
Evidence?
The #BLM is still trying to get the Dems & other politicians & an entire nation(s), to ki@s their whiney a@sses .And we all know it.
The #BLM just hasn't had the revelation that they are a pawn *


Be afraid, be very afraid!: http://youtu.be/--hMJPUBwMc/



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Sun 04/10/16 03:44 AM

http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/NFL/2016/04/07/Ray-Lewis-questions-if-black-lives-really-matter/5421460001502/

"I'm trying to figure out if black lives really matter," Lewis said in the video..."The March murder rate rose by 29 percent, but we're not rioting in the streets over black-on-black crime."



* Which is ONE of the points, Bill Clinton was trying to make...AGAIN.
I am sure he can't wait to tell this group (#BLM) they are a waste of space & energy & that him & his wife & the country never did give a sh@t. Why should they? Black lives don't matter to the black community.
Evidence?
The #BLM is still trying to get the Dems & other politicians & an entire nation(s), to ki@s their whiney a@sses .And we all know it.
The #BLM just hasn't had the revelation that they are a pawn *


Be afraid, be very afraid!: http://youtu.be/--hMJPUBwMc/



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msharmony's photo
Sun 04/10/16 08:49 AM

http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/NFL/2016/04/07/Ray-Lewis-questions-if-black-lives-really-matter/5421460001502/

"I'm trying to figure out if black lives really matter," Lewis said in the video..."The March murder rate rose by 29 percent, but we're not rioting in the streets over black-on-black crime."



* Which is ONE of the points, Bill Clinton was trying to make...AGAIN.
I am sure he can't wait to tell this group (#BLM) they are a waste of space & energy & that him & his wife & the country never did give a sh@t. Why should they? Black lives don't matter to the black community.
Evidence?
The #BLM is still trying to get the Dems & other politicians & an entire nation(s), to ki@s their whiney a@sses .And we all know it.
The #BLM just hasn't had the revelation that they are a pawn *


Be afraid, be very afraid!: http://youtu.be/--hMJPUBwMc/






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criminals commit CRIME,, that's what they DO

that is why we have a justice system to deal with crime

a paid, trained staff of people in the justice system


this argument that people are going to riot over crime is a ridiculous distraction and not the point

people work in their individual communities to deal with criminals and crime


its the handling of CRIME by the justice system<< again,, which people are paid and trained in the justice system to do that people protest about , and 'Bill' was speaking to individual protestors about how his bill corresponds with black lives mattering

it was not about the movement, but the individuals present and protesting



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Sun 04/10/16 10:15 AM
Edited by SassyEuro2 on Sun 04/10/16 10:18 AM


http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/NFL/2016/04/07/Ray-Lewis-questions-if-black-lives-really-matter/5421460001502/

"I'm trying to figure out if black lives really matter," Lewis said in the video..."The March murder rate rose by 29 percent, but we're not rioting in the streets over black-on-black crime."



* Which is ONE of the points, Bill Clinton was trying to make...AGAIN.
I am sure he can't wait to tell this group (#BLM) they are a waste of space & energy & that him & his wife & the country never did give a sh@t. Why should they? Black lives don't matter to the black community.
Evidence?
The #BLM is still trying to get the Dems & other politicians & an entire nation(s), to ki@s their whiney a@sses .And we all know it.
The #BLM just hasn't had the revelation that they are a pawn *


Be afraid, be very afraid!: http://youtu.be/--hMJPUBwMc/






sigh
criminals commit CRIME,, that's what they DO

that is why we have a justice system to deal with crime

a paid, trained staff of people in the justice system


this argument that people are going to riot over crime is a ridiculous distraction and not the point

people work in their individual communities to deal with criminals and crime


its the handling of CRIME by the justice system<< again,, which people are paid and trained in the justice system to do that people protest about , and 'Bill' was speaking to individual protestors about how his bill corresponds with black lives mattering

it was not about the movement, but the individuals present and protesting





criminals commit CRIME,, that's what they DO

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And police arresting criminals, & sometimes shooting them for resting arrest, fleeing, no matter if they are armed with any kind of weapon on not.. or not dropping a weapon...is what POLICE DO.
It is there job. To protect themselves & society from a threat.

You are still trying to convince the planet that innocent young black men are being (unjustly) gunned down in the street by police, just because they are black.

AGAIN.. More white men are shot by police.

And yes.. Black people did riot over dead criminals resiting arrest & getting shot... Because that is what the #BLM DOES.

They blame instead of change themselves or their communities.
Victimization mentality.



msharmony's photo
Sun 04/10/16 10:29 AM
there is no hope of some folks ever getting the point,,,


smh



its not a matter of if a job is being done, but if the job is being done with PREJUDICE,,,


so yes, criminals get shot,, but if we find that out of a group of 100 'criminals' all unarmed

out of the unarmed criminals,,,that are determined to be a deadly threat


there is a disproportionate assessment in one group compared to others



there is a problem



if we find that there is a disproportionate expectation for holding assailants accountable (both in uniform and out) for a certain group of victims

that group is completely within their right and obligation to take action and ask whats up with that or proclaim that that group of lives matter (too)

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Sun 04/10/16 10:56 AM

there is no hope of some folks ever getting the point,,,


smh



its not a matter of if a job is being done, but if the job is being done with PREJUDICE,,,


so yes, criminals get shot,, but if we find that out of a group of 100 'criminals' all unarmed

out of the unarmed criminals,,,that are determined to be a deadly threat


there is a disproportionate assessment in one group compared to others



there is a problem



if we find that there is a disproportionate expectation for holding assailants accountable (both in uniform and out) for a certain group of victims

that group is completely within their right and obligation to take action and ask whats up with that or proclaim that that group of lives matter (too)


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Then they should change their name to #UnarmedBlackMenWhoAreArrestedLivesMatter.

Under the current name #BlackLivesMater, they damn sure ignore the culture of violence that's rampant in black communities.

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/10/16 11:01 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 04/10/16 11:02 AM


there is no hope of some folks ever getting the point,,,


smh



its not a matter of if a job is being done, but if the job is being done with PREJUDICE,,,


so yes, criminals get shot,, but if we find that out of a group of 100 'criminals' all unarmed

out of the unarmed criminals,,,that are determined to be a deadly threat


there is a disproportionate assessment in one group compared to others



there is a problem



if we find that there is a disproportionate expectation for holding assailants accountable (both in uniform and out) for a certain group of victims

that group is completely within their right and obligation to take action and ask whats up with that or proclaim that that group of lives matter (too)


-------------
Then they should change their name to #UnarmedBlackMenWhoAreArrestedLivesMatter.

Under the current name #BlackLivesMater, they damn sure ignore the culture of violence that's rampant in black communities.


oh, give me a break

lift the needle up so it can stop repeating

its not JUST Unarmed men killed by police, its also black lives in general in the justice system

black victims are less likely to have their assailants held accountable, in uniform or out

meaning whether a cop or a criminal takes their life, the system approaches it as if their lives matter


the assailant when a black life is taken is less likely to be convicted, less likely to receive death penalty, and of course with cops , less likely to even be held accountable at all


and how is there a 'culture' of violence that's 'rampant' in the black community as opposed to the American culture at large?

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Sun 04/10/16 11:10 AM



there is no hope of some folks ever getting the point,,,


smh



its not a matter of if a job is being done, but if the job is being done with PREJUDICE,,,


so yes, criminals get shot,, but if we find that out of a group of 100 'criminals' all unarmed

out of the unarmed criminals,,,that are determined to be a deadly threat


there is a disproportionate assessment in one group compared to others



there is a problem



if we find that there is a disproportionate expectation for holding assailants accountable (both in uniform and out) for a certain group of victims

that group is completely within their right and obligation to take action and ask whats up with that or proclaim that that group of lives matter (too)


-------------
Then they should change their name to #UnarmedBlackMenWhoAreArrestedLivesMatter.

Under the current name #BlackLivesMater, they damn sure ignore the culture of violence that's rampant in black communities.


oh, give me a break

lift the needle up so it can stop repeating

its not JUST Unarmed men killed by police, its also black lives in general in the justice system

black victims are less likely to have their assailants held accountable, in uniform or out

meaning whether a cop or a criminal takes their life, the system approaches it as if their lives matter


the assailant when a black life is taken is less likely to be convicted, less likely to receive death penalty, and of course with cops , less likely to even be held accountable at all


and how is there a 'culture' of violence that's 'rampant' in the black community as opposed to the American culture at large?


blah, blah, blah... speaking of broken records...whoa

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/10/16 11:12 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 04/10/16 11:20 AM
and logical fallacies

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Sun 04/10/16 11:26 AM
Denial for the sake of agenda

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/10/16 11:28 AM
EXACTLY what I was thinking

the agenda of blacks deserve to get killed as long as blacks commit crimes

AGENDA

just appeals to some and gets old to others

mightymoe's photo
Sun 04/10/16 11:29 AM

and logical fallacies



i agree, since you think it's only happening to blacks...

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/10/16 11:35 AM


and logical fallacies



i agree, since you think it's only happening to blacks...



never said it only happens to anyone


it happens to everyone is about as good an excuse as everybody does it,,,,


most tragic things haven't happened to only one person, but that person still feels that what has happened to THEM needs to be addressed


and when something happens in a DISPROPORTIONATE rate, people take notice,, as in some who are very well read on 'disproportionate' negative trends in the black community

but refuse to accept concern over disproportionate excusing of their deaths by criminals and cops

mightymoe's photo
Sun 04/10/16 11:47 AM



and logical fallacies



i agree, since you think it's only happening to blacks...



never said it only happens to anyone


it happens to everyone is about as good an excuse as everybody does it,,,,


most tragic things haven't happened to only one person, but that person still feels that what has happened to THEM needs to be addressed


and when something happens in a DISPROPORTIONATE rate, people take notice,, as in some who are very well read on 'disproportionate' negative trends in the black community

but refuse to accept concern over disproportionate excusing of their deaths by criminals and cops


your own logic refutes you... it happens to whites way more than blacks...

while i agree with the basic interests BLM has, i don't not agree with only one race being focused on, when it's happening to all races...

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Sun 04/10/16 12:00 PM
it happens more, is basic numbers, and there are more numbers of whites so that's not the point

it doesn't happen at the same RATE

example: group A has 1000 indviduals
group B has 200 individuals

pure numbers


if , 300 people who are unarmed are stopped ,,(new demographic which includes ALL groups)


and of that demographic(unarmed suspects) , 30% of those who belong to group B are killed compared to 15% of group A


that is called a race based DISPARITY

having nothing to do with who is committing crimes, since crime is irrelevant when sorting for a group in which all are assumed to commit crime

that is the issue, not how many more whites there are or that are getting shot

but with the DISPARITY in the RATE at which it happens



,,,,,now,, go on and respond with how understanding of math is somehow 'spin'

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Sun 04/10/16 12:06 PM

EXACTLY what I was thinking

the agenda of blacks deserve to get killed as long as blacks commit crimes

AGENDA

just appeals to some and gets old to others



Apparently only black criminals think blacks deserve to die.
And non black criminals blame everything & everybody else.
Instead of actually doing something about it. And like you know... Be proactive & accept responsibility like everyone else & advance your own community & culture instead of trying to get everyone else to except the criminal mentality & disrepect for society as normal.

It is getting old. People aren't pretending anymore. Or willing to perpetrate the lies.

And neither will Canada.
* You have some reading to do " spock

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/10/16 12:09 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 04/10/16 12:11 PM


EXACTLY what I was thinking

the agenda of blacks deserve to get killed as long as blacks commit crimes

AGENDA

just appeals to some and gets old to others



Apparently only black criminals think blacks deserve to die.
And non black criminals blame everything & everybody else.
Instead of actually doing something about it. And like you know... Be proactive & accept responsibility like everyone else & advance your own community & culture instead of trying to get everyone else to except the criminal mentality & disrepect for society as normal.

It is getting old. People aren't pretending anymore. Or willing to perpetrate the lies.

And neither will Canada.
* You have some reading to do " spock



not apparent to anyone using logic,,


others ASSume

assume there is not already proactivity, responsibility, and initiatives within those communities

so as to excuse the absence of proactivity, responsibility, an initiatives within the justice system


,,do carry on though,, it helps to make some feel superior and get their dose of 'blame' as well


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Mon 04/11/16 04:51 PM
Hhhaaa.. Your being ASinine.
And resorting to passive aggressive name calling. Because you feel inferior.
(You use the same words a lot..'inferior', ' superior' very telling) because you are stuck in 'Victimization', & your logic & the #BLM's is flawed.

Now they are a redundant hate group that no one ever or took seriously anyway.
( Not any rational person anyway. Excluding politicians who used & abused the #BLM & laughed as the #BLM tried to use & abuse the system). Pawns.
Time to panic? Because they took the bait, hook line & sinker

So now.. They #BLM headed North.

#AmericanBlackLivesMatterThinksTheyCanConquerThe Yukon

Live at 5 on CBC & MSNBC
Bring your own snacks & a parka

waving

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Mon 04/11/16 05:00 PM

it happens more, is basic numbers, and there are more numbers of whites so that's not the point

it doesn't happen at the same RATE

example: group A has 1000 indviduals
group B has 200 individuals

pure numbers


if , 300 people who are unarmed are stopped ,,(new demographic which includes ALL groups)


and of that demographic(unarmed suspects) , 30% of those who belong to group B are killed compared to 15% of group A


that is called a race based DISPARITY

having nothing to do with who is committing crimes, since crime is irrelevant when sorting for a group in which all are assumed to commit crime

that is the issue, not how many more whites there are or that are getting shot

but with the DISPARITY in the RATE at which it happens



,,,,,now,, go on and respond with how understanding of math is somehow 'spin'



why? you don't even know your spinning it in your favor...

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Mon 04/11/16 05:06 PM
Welp...the #BLM bat signal just got sent out. Lets see how long it takes....laugh