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Topic: North Carolina: "We're Not Going To Get Bullied"
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Sat 05/07/16 04:14 AM
Edited by SassyEuro2 on Sat 05/07/16 04:15 AM
latimes.com

North Carolina says it will defy Justice Department over LGBT law: 'We're not going to get bullied'
Los Angeles Times

A political showdown between North Carolina and the federal government loomed Thursday as Republican state leaders vowed to defy the U.S. Justice Department’s deadline to repeal the state’s contentious new bathroom law.

The Justice Department notified Gov. Pat McCrory in a letter Wednesday that the state’s House Bill 2, which restricts transgender bathroom access and has become a focus in the LGBT rights fight, violates sections of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. It gave the state until Monday to “remedy” the violations.

On Thursday, North Carolina House Speaker Tim Moore said legislators would not meet the federal government’s deadline.

“We will take no action by Monday,” Moore told reporters in a video broadcast by the Raleigh News & Observer. “That deadline will come and go. Obviously, we don’t ever want to lose any money, but we’re not going to get bullied by the Obama administration to take action prior to Monday’s date. That’s not how this works.”

In a statement, McCrory said he would review the letter to determine the state’s next steps. “The Obama administration has not only staked out its position for North Carolina, but for all states, universities and most employers in the U.S.,” the governor said. “The right and expectation of privacy in one of the most private areas of our personal lives is now in jeopardy.”

Other Republican leaders also reacted strongly against the letter. Phil Berger, president pro tempore of the North Carolina Senate, called the letter “a gross overreach by the Obama Justice Department that deserves to be struck down in federal court.”

If the state refuses to repeal or amend the legislation, the Justice Department has several options, legal experts say. The civil rights division can apply for a federal court order to require compliance, putting the case in the hands of a federal judge. It could also start initiating action to limit the distribution of federal funds. Last year, the Department of Education gave North Carolina $4.3 billion for public kindergartens, schools and colleges.

“This sets up a battle between the state and the federal government,” said Jane R. Wettach, a professor of law at Duke University, a private university in Durham, N.C. “Our state officials are saying that this is federal government overreach, but the federal government has the power, certainly over federal funds.”

There is no recent precedent for the federal government threatening to withdraw public education funds over a state law, although federal agencies have threatened to exert sanctions on some school districts to change their transgender restroom policies.

In November, federal education officials found that a high school district in Palatine, Ill., violated Title IX antidiscrimination laws by not allowing a transgender student who identifies as a girl full access to the girls’ locker room. The school eventually backed down.

Yet on Wednesday, a group of families filed a federal lawsuit against the Department of Education, the Justice Department and the school district, alleging that their actions “trample students’ privacy” rights and create an “intimidating and hostile environment” for female students.

The North Carolina standoff has echoes of the federal government’s battle with states over desegregation more than half a century ago, Wettach said. For about 10 years, school systems across the South refused to follow the landmark 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education court order that they desegregate — until the federal government threatened to cut off education funds.

“There is a precedent for the federal government holding the purse strings and saying, ‘Unless you follow our interpretation of civil rights, you won’t get your money,’” she said.

Justice Department officials have yet to comment on whether they plan to send letters to other Southern states that have passed similarly controversial legislation. Last month, Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant signed a law that, among other things, permits businesses and faith-based groups to deny services to people based on their gender identity or sexual orientation. The law, which would also allow employers and schools to refuse to allow transgender people to use the restrooms or locker rooms of their choice, goes into effect July 1.

The North Carolina conflict initially began as a showdown between city and state. In February, the state’s largest city, Charlotte, passed an ordinance that expanded nondiscrimination protections to sexual orientation and gender identity and allowed people to choose restrooms according to the gender with which they identify.

Before the city’s ordinance went into effect, however, Republicans rushed through a law that orders schools and public agencies to require multiple-occupancy restrooms to be used by people based on the sex listed on their birth certificate. The law, which was signed by McCrory in March, also prevents cities from extending anti-discrimination laws to lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people and from passing any increase in the minimum wage.

In a letter to McCrory, Vanita Gupta, principal deputy assistant attorney general for the civil rights division, stated that HB2 violates Title VII of the Civil Rights Act, which prohibits employers from discriminating, as well as Title IX of the 1972 Education Amendments, which bars discrimination in education based on sex.

“Specifically, the state is engaging in a pattern or practice of discrimination against transgender state employees and both you, in your official capacity, and the state are engaging in a pattern or practice of resistance to the full enjoyment of Title VII rights by transgender employees of public agencies,” the letter says.

To “remedy” the violations, the Justice Department required the state to confirm that it will not implement HB2 and to notify state and public employees that they can access bathrooms that correspond to their gender identity.

The Justice Department also sent letters to the University of North Carolina, citing an alleged violation of Title IX, as well as to the state’s secretary of public safety, citing an alleged violation of the 2013 Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act.

On Thursday, Democratic legislators urged their counterparts in the Republican-dominated General Assembly to repeal the law by Monday.

“#HB2 became law in less than 12 hours,” Cecil Brockman, a Democratic state representative, said on Twitter. “5 days should be more than enough time to decide how to clean up after it.”

State officials should not be too surprised by the intervention. In December 2014, then-Atty. Gen. Eric H. Holder Jr. instructed the Justice Department to include gender identity, including transgender status, in Title VII’s prohibition against sex discrimination.

In her letter, Gupta noted that the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission in 2015 held that equal access to restrooms is a “significant, basic condition of employment” and that denying transgender individuals access to a restroom consistent with their gender identity constituted a form of discrimination.

While McCrory has previously said he would roll back some provisions of the law, he has been unwilling to reconsider the section requiring transgender people to use public bathrooms corresponding to the sex on their birth certificate — a measure he describes as “common sense.”

A recent poll by RABA Research, a bipartisan polling company, found that half of North Carolina voters disapprove of the new law. When asked, “Do you approve or disapprove of HB2 — the state’s new anti-transgender law?” 50% disapproved and 35% approved.


http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-north-carolina-doj-20160505-story.html/

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NORTH CAROLINA DEFIES FEDS; LGBT, NOT DRIVING FORCE OF AGENDA

http://youtu.be/Wg_ypN47NTE/
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Twisted Sister - We're not gonna take it (With Lyrics)
http://youtu.be/CQ0ftoiIQxU/
04:12 :banana:


PeterRobertson's photo
Sat 05/07/16 07:05 AM
['We're not going to get bullied']

... because we are the bullies.

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 05/07/16 07:08 AM

['We're not going to get bullied']

... because we are the bullies.


so,you agree that some ought to be compelled to serve others against their will!slaphead
In another Age that was called Slavery!
And the Constitution expressively forbids Involuntary Servitude!

Rock's photo
Sat 05/07/16 10:23 AM
Good on NC. . :thumbsup:


What next?
Fire hydrant urinals, for
humans who "identify" as dogs?


Trans is a mutilation, not a gender.


PeterRobertson's photo
Sun 05/08/16 06:51 AM
Who is being forced to serve anyone?
This was about preventing people from using toilets.

Manturkey1's photo
Sun 05/08/16 07:02 AM

Who is being forced to serve anyone?
This was about preventing people from using toilets.


Also to keep out the child molesters and perverts with there cameras.

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Sun 05/08/16 07:14 AM

Who is being forced to serve anyone?
This was about preventing people from using toilets.


No one is preventing anyone from going to 'A' bathroom.

Geez.. those big mean, heterosexual American families. How dare they NOT want the LESS than 1% transgenders, & those perverts whip it in out in front of women & children?
What's wrong with them, across the pond, for NOT making them prey. Why doesn't the majority change, & cast their better judgement aside, for the minority?

* SEVERE Sarcasm *


Conrad_73's photo
Sun 05/08/16 07:19 AM

Who is being forced to serve anyone?
This was about preventing people from using toilets.

well,might as well have Public Latrines then,like in the Army,you know,Field-Latrines!If you have Dangling Bits,you belong with the Other Dangling Bits,regardless of how much you hate your Own Danglers!

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Sun 05/08/16 07:53 AM
This whole bathroom concern is one more weird thing in a weird election season.

The one caution I have about it is, be careful what principle you allow the authorities to declare, as a way of deciding things.

I sure don't like the principle that the anything-goes bathroom people seem to be pushing, which is "if someone feels bad using the bathroom we designate for them, they should be allowed to use the other one, whether that makes EVERYONE ELSE feel bad instead or not."

It's self-contradictory. Just like the people who want to "defend religious freedom" by declaring that law enforcement should support religious bias and persecution.

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Sun 05/08/16 08:06 AM
I can't wait until summer comes and transgenders(mostly men dressed as women)start using the women's showers at the beaches in N.Y. We'll see how fast Blazio and Cuomo change their tunes about N.C.laugh

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Sun 05/08/16 08:09 AM

I can't wait until summer comes and transgenders(mostly men dressed as women)start using the women's showers at the beaches in N.Y. We'll see how fast Blazio and Cuomo change their tunes about N.C.laugh
:laughing:

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 05/08/16 08:09 AM
well,might as well have Public Latrines then,like in the Army,you know,Field-Latrines!
If you have Dangling Bits,you belong with the Other Dangling Bits,regardless of how much you hate your Own Danglers! laugh

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Sun 05/08/16 09:09 AM
. Everyone South Of Border who is Roman Catholic coming in. And 200,000+ Muslims.


Expect major casualties.
Especially Flying off roof tops.

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 05/08/16 09:22 AM

['We're not going to get bullied']

... because we are the bullies.

who was forcing others to bake Cakes?

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Sun 05/08/16 11:39 AM
"If the state refuses to repeal or amend the legislation, the Justice Department has several options, legal experts say. The civil rights division can apply for a federal court order to require compliance, putting the case in the hands of a federal judge."

If ANY person was denied the use of EVERY bathroom for ANY reason it would be a civil rights issue. That isn't the case.

"It could also start initiating action to limit the distribution of federal funds. Last year, the Department of Education gave North Carolina $4.3 billion for public kindergartens, schools and colleges."

Brilliant, take funding away that will punish kids. The democrats keep talking about higher education being inaccessible to too many kids but have no problem threating to do something that will hurt education at EVERY LEVEL in a state if it enables them to achieve another part of their agenda.


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Sun 05/08/16 12:00 PM
What the hell is government doing in public bathrooms? Next they'll be telling us who can squat and who can stand. More government over reach.


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Mon 05/09/16 08:32 AM
NC governor sues Obama administration over bathroom law challenge

North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory filed suit Monday against the Department of Justice in a bid to preserve the state’s controversial “bathroom” law, after the Obama administration said the policy violates the civil rights of transgender people.

The state was facing a Monday deadline set by the administration to respond to its demand that North Carolina either scrap the law or face legal action and risk losing federal funds.

McCrory refused, and instead filed suit.

"The Department’s position is a baseless and blatant overreach," the suit, filed in U.S. District Court in the Eastern District of North Carolina, says. "This is an attempt to unilaterally rewrite long-established federal civil rights laws in a manner that is wholly inconsistent with the intent of Congress and disregards decades of statutory interpretation by the Courts."

The state law requires transgender people to use bathrooms that correspond with the sex on their birth certificate. McCrory says the North Carolina law applies only to government offices, universities and road-side rest stops, not every bathroom in the state.

The Justice Department, though, had sent McCrory a letter last Wednesday stating the law violates federal civil rights laws.

The governor, speaking over the weekend with “Fox News Sunday,” said he asked the department for an extension and was given only until the close of business Monday.

“I don’t think that three working days is enough time for such a pretty big threat,” he told Fox News. "It’s the federal government being a bully, making law.”

McCrory also said he doesn’t have the legal authority to change laws and that the expectation that he can is “unrealistic.”

McCrory, who signed the bill into law in March, said last week that the department seems to be breaking new ground in claiming the North Carolina law violates Civil Rights Act protections against discrimination in education and the workplace.

And he said the administration's warning means the issue is no longer confined to North Carolina.

“This is not just North Carolina,” said McCrory, arguing that every university that accepts federal funding is now in the same situation as those in his state.

Meanwhile, the administration is expected to soon take the bathroom issue further, to ensure that transgender student rights are fully protected under federal law, according to Politico. The move reportedly would be related to a federal law that prohibits sex-based discrimination in federally funded education programs and activities, and multiple agencies are expected to be involved.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/09/nc-governor-sues-obama-administration-over-bathroom-law-challenge.html/

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 05/09/16 08:41 AM
poor 14th Amendment!
It is really stomped on lately!
Amazing what things the Libtards find in it,yet can't find Gunrights in the 2nd!

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Mon 05/09/16 08:55 AM
Edited by SassyEuro2 on Mon 05/09/16 08:56 AM

poor 14th Amendment!
It is really stomped on lately!
Amazing what things the Libtards find in it,yet can't find Gunrights in the 2nd!


God Bless North Carolina

Twisted Sister - We're not gonna take it (With Lyrics)
http://youtu.be/CQ0ftoiIQxU/
04:12 :banana:



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Mon 05/09/16 07:24 PM
Well if they identify themselves as women why are they wearing woodies in the shower.

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