Topic: the sultan of turkey - womens duty is motherhood
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Mon 05/30/16 08:03 PM
Devout Muslim families ought to thrive without considering population planning and birth control, says Turkey's president. Recep Tayyip Erdogan is known for previously equating birth control to treason and harshly opposing gender equality.

"We will multiply our descendants. They talk about population planning, birth control. No Muslim family can have such an approach," Reuters cited Erdogan as saying in a live-broadcast speech in Istanbul on Monday. "Nobody can interfere in God's work. The first duty here belongs to mothers."

On the International Women's Day, March 8, the president said he believes that "a woman is above all else a mother," stressing that women cannot be freed "by destroying the notion of family," in a speech full of quotes from Koran on the virtues of motherhood.

A couple of days later, Turkey's first lady praised the often-criticized harem of the Ottoman Empire as "a school for preparing women for life."

"The harem was a school for members of the Ottoman dynasty and an educational establishment for preparing women for life," Emine Erdogan said at an official event on the Ottoman sultans in Ankara, according to Turkish TV stations.

While urging his compatriots to protect the family, the president also insisted that "women are not equal to men."

"Our religion [Islam] has defined a position for women: motherhood," the Guardian cited Erdogan as saying at a summit on justice for women in Istanbul. The president's daughter Sumeyye was present among the audience.

"You cannot explain this to feminists because they don't accept the concept of motherhood," Erdogan added.

Women and men are not equal "because it goes against the laws of nature" and differences in their "characters, habits and physiques," believes the Turkish leader.

"You cannot place a mother breastfeeding her baby on an equal footing with men," Erdogan said, because women cannot do the same work as men "as in communist regimes," where women are given a shovel and told what to do. "This is against their delicate nature."

Erdogan's stance found the full support of then-Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, who said that gender equality in developed countries leads to higher suicide rates.

"Since our women are fulfilling that divine mission of keeping humanity alive, they have the right to rest before and after becoming a mother and spare time for their children. Granting this is not a favor, it is just paying a debt," Davutoglu said in December 2015.

In December last year, Erdogan dubbed birth control a form of treason threatening the nation's bloodline. Moreover, he believes any married couple should have at least three children in order to boost the Turkish population.

"For years they committed the treason of birth control in this country, seeking to dry up our bloodline. Lineage is very important both economically and spiritually," Reuters cited Erdogan as telling a couple after serving as a witness at their wedding.

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Mon 05/30/16 08:33 PM
Its really strange how liberals in America...in all their "feminism" glory, will ignore this.....

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Mon 05/30/16 08:49 PM

Its really strange how liberals in America...in all their "feminism" glory, will ignore this.....


even stranger with all the pro gay, how the muslims throw gays off of rooftops - but you never hear how we should boycot them... Christians are bigots for not supporting the gay agenda, but muslims are not for killing them...


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Mon 05/30/16 08:52 PM


Its really strange how liberals in America...in all their "feminism" glory, will ignore this.....


even stranger with all the pro gay, how the muslims throw gays off of rooftops - but you never hear how we should boycot them... Christians are bigots for not supporting the gay agenda, but muslims are not for killing them...


So true....

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Mon 05/30/16 11:36 PM



Its really strange how liberals in America...in all their "feminism" glory, will ignore this.....


even stranger with all the pro gay, how the muslims throw gays off of rooftops - but you never hear how we should boycot them... Christians are bigots for not supporting the gay agenda, but muslims are not for killing them...


So true....

All forms of extremism should be condemned, vigorously, wherever they are found.

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Tue 05/31/16 01:01 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Tue 05/31/16 01:04 AM




Its really strange how liberals in America...in all their "feminism" glory, will ignore this.....


even stranger with all the pro gay, how the muslims throw gays off of rooftops - but you never hear how we should boycot them... Christians are bigots for not supporting the gay agenda, but muslims are not for killing them...


So true....

All forms of extremism should be condemned, vigorously, wherever they are found.

So,the Pursuit of Extreme Health,or Extreme Happiness ought to be condemned?

“Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.”
Barry Goldwater

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Tue 05/31/16 02:42 AM





Its really strange how liberals in America...in all their "feminism" glory, will ignore this.....


even stranger with all the pro gay, how the muslims throw gays off of rooftops - but you never hear how we should boycot them... Christians are bigots for not supporting the gay agenda, but muslims are not for killing them...


So true....

All forms of extremism should be condemned, vigorously, wherever they are found.

So,the Pursuit of Extreme Health,or Extreme Happiness ought to be condemned?

“Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.”
Barry Goldwater

Absolutely. Anything that becomes an obsession gets corrupted and debased.

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Tue 05/31/16 03:36 AM
Topic: the sultan of turkey - womens duty is motherhood


Poppy best keep his a@s in Turkey.
That sh@t, isn't going to fly in the USA noway

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Tue 05/31/16 04:20 AM
Fortunately, the Sultan of Turkey hasn't had any influence outside of Turkey, since about 1904 or so.

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Tue 05/31/16 04:36 AM
Edited by SassyEuro2 on Tue 05/31/16 04:37 AM

Fortunately, the Sultan of Turkey hasn't had any influence outside of Turkey, since about 1904 or so.


:thumbsup: He could fall down the steps or something. :tongue:


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Tue 05/31/16 05:45 AM

Fortunately, the Sultan of Turkey hasn't had any influence outside of Turkey, since about 1904 or so.


in 1904, they weren't being shipped all over the world...

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Tue 05/31/16 07:13 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Tue 05/31/16 07:19 AM

Fortunately, the Sultan of Turkey hasn't had any influence outside of Turkey, since about 1904 or so.

actually the last one issued a Fatwa calling for Global Jihad back in 1914!
And they are still going strong,not just in Turkey!

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Tue 05/31/16 07:29 AM




Its really strange how liberals in America...in all their "feminism" glory, will ignore this.....


even stranger with all the pro gay, how the muslims throw gays off of rooftops - but you never hear how we should boycot them... Christians are bigots for not supporting the gay agenda, but muslims are not for killing them...


So true....

All forms of extremism should be condemned, vigorously, wherever they are found.
Well hell then....I'll wait patiently for the left to start vehemently opposing the mistreatment of Muslim women worldwide. They can start with this....

"ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — A powerful constitutional body in Pakistan proposed legislation last week that would allow husbands to "lightly beat" their wives who decline sex or refuse to wear what their mates prefer.

The Council of Islamic Ideology says it has to finalize the 160-page draft before it is sent to lawmakers in the Punjab province, the country's most populated region, for approval.

As well as beatings for wives who decline to have sex with their husbands, the document also advocates men use "limited violence" on spouses who do not bathe after intercourse or during menstruation.

"Hit her in areas where her skin is not too thick and not too thin," CII leader Maulana Muhammad Khan Sherani told a press conference in Islamabad on Thursday. "Do not use shoes or a broom on the head, or hit her on the nose or eyes."

"Do not break any bones or cut her skin or leave any marks," he added. "Do not hit her vindictively, but only for reminding her about her religious duties."""
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/pakistan-advisory-body-cii-suggests-men-lightly-beat-wives-who-n581616

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Tue 05/31/16 07:35 AM





Its really strange how liberals in America...in all their "feminism" glory, will ignore this.....


even stranger with all the pro gay, how the muslims throw gays off of rooftops - but you never hear how we should boycot them... Christians are bigots for not supporting the gay agenda, but muslims are not for killing them...


So true....

All forms of extremism should be condemned, vigorously, wherever they are found.
Well hell then....I'll wait patiently for the left to start vehemently opposing the mistreatment of Muslim women worldwide.


Why wait for this mysterious 'left'? It seems to be an excuse for you doing nothing yourself.

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Tue 05/31/16 07:53 AM






Its really strange how liberals in America...in all their "feminism" glory, will ignore this.....


even stranger with all the pro gay, how the muslims throw gays off of rooftops - but you never hear how we should boycot them... Christians are bigots for not supporting the gay agenda, but muslims are not for killing them...


So true....

All forms of extremism should be condemned, vigorously, wherever they are found.
Well hell then....I'll wait patiently for the left to start vehemently opposing the mistreatment of Muslim women worldwide.


Why wait for this mysterious 'left'? It seems to be an excuse for you doing nothing yourself.
Diversion fail....and "mysterious left"? Maybe I can help with that...look in a mirror.

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Wed 06/01/16 03:35 AM



Its really strange how liberals in America...in all their "feminism" glory, will ignore this.....


even stranger with all the pro gay, how the muslims throw gays off of rooftops - but you never hear how we should boycot them... Christians are bigots for not supporting the gay agenda, but muslims are not for killing them...


So true....

Last week President Obama and Vice President Biden both marked the “International Day Against Homophobia and Transphobia” by making silly, condescending statements. Lost amidst the hoopla were the implications of the statement made by VP Biden, who seemingly argued that the “rights” of homosexuals were being violated by the simple fact that Christianity continues to exist. In fact, the VP argued that liberals would not rest until they put an end to the “hatred” of “religious condemnation” toward deviant sexuality.

Yes, folks. Today in America, the simple fact that we Christians exist means that gays rights are being “violated.”


Christians, but not muslims...


http://eaglerising.com/33778/joe-biden-christians-violate-gay-rights-simply-by-existing/

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Wed 06/01/16 04:02 AM




Its really strange how liberals in America...in all their "feminism" glory, will ignore this.....


even stranger with all the pro gay, how the muslims throw gays off of rooftops - but you never hear how we should boycot them... Christians are bigots for not supporting the gay agenda, but muslims are not for killing them...


So true....

Last week President Obama and Vice President Biden both marked the “International Day Against Homophobia and Transphobia” by making silly, condescending statements. Lost amidst the hoopla were the implications of the statement made by VP Biden, who seemingly argued that the “rights” of homosexuals were being violated by the simple fact that Christianity continues to exist. In fact, the VP argued that liberals would not rest until they put an end to the “hatred” of “religious condemnation” toward deviant sexuality.

Yes, folks. Today in America, the simple fact that we Christians exist means that gays rights are being “violated.”


Christians, but not muslims...


http://eaglerising.com/33778/joe-biden-christians-violate-gay-rights-simply-by-existing/

Doubt Biden was ever in his right Mind,and we all know WHO Barry is!