Topic: more from the religion of "peace and love"
mightymoe's photo
Wed 06/01/16 05:36 PM
A 19-year-old Pakistani girl who was beaten, had petrol poured over her and was put on fire for refusing a marriage proposal, succumbed to the wounds in hospital after a day of struggling for life.

Maria Sadaqat, the victim, was taken to Pakistan Institute of Medical Sciences (PIMS) reportedly after being tortured by the family of the would-be-groom who asked to marry her but was turned down, local media reported.

Though doctors previously described the woman's condition as stable and improving, on Wednesday she died from sustained injuries.

Sadaqat, a teacher at a private school, was admitted to hospital with 85 percent burns on Tuesday.

She was attacked by at least five people as she returned home from work, the police reported. The woman cried for help, but it took her neighbors a considerable amount of time to respond since her house is located in a remote area. By the time the help came, she had already suffered heavy injuries.

Sadaqat managed to identify two of the attackers, the police said, also adding that one of them worked together with the victim at school.

The police has launched an investigation against the five suspects. Three of them were taken in custody immediately after the incident, while others are currently being sought, Pakistan's SAMAA news channel reported.

The province's chief minister, Shahbaz Sharif, has obliged law enforcement authorities to draw up a preliminary investigation report on the case as soon as possible.

The victims's family have also filed a complaint against the hospital administration, alleging they failed to provide her with appropriate medical facilities, Daily Pakistan wrote.

More than 1,000 women were killed in Pakistan in 2015 by relatives who believed they had compromised their family's name, with a majority of these crimes, known as "honor killings," going unreported, the country's independent Human Rights Commission said in its recent annual report.

"The causes of these killings in 2015 were domestic disputes, alleged illicit relations and exercising the right of choice in marriage," it said.

Sadaqat's murder came just a month after a similar attack in Pakistan took the life of a 16-year-old girl who was strangled and then put on fire in a car for assisting a couple to elope.

http://www.rt.com/news/345082-pakistan-murder-burnt-alive/

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Thu 06/02/16 12:12 AM
It is not only in Pakistan.
It is all over the world.
Even in the United States
(Where it is on the rise, for at least 3 yrs)

It definitely is NOT a domestic dispute. Which is part of the problem, including the way police handle investigation.
It should not matter, what culture, religion, ideology there is.
We need to treat it as 1st degree, murder as as every other case.
And prosecute those who knew about it also (like the mother & female relatives).
That would get the world's attention & be the best deterrent as well as justice for the victim & society.

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 06/02/16 12:33 AM
what a crappy Culture!sick sick sick

PeterRobertson's photo
Thu 06/02/16 04:44 AM
For a little balance, how about a modern Christian atrocity:

"[The Central African Republic Genocide] is an ongoing conflict... While the UN hasn’t called it a genocide yet, Reuters acknowledges that what the Christians are doing is ethnic cleansing against a Muslim minority. The conflict is very much one of Christians working to expel Muslims from the country, and by all accounts, they’ve been very successful so far."

Pot meet kettle.

Not only do I condemn Muslims who do terrible things, but I also condemn EVERYONE who sinks to that level.

Frankk1950's photo
Thu 06/02/16 06:17 AM

For a little balance, how about a modern Christian atrocity:

"[The Central African Republic Genocide] is an ongoing conflict... While the UN hasn’t called it a genocide yet, Reuters acknowledges that what the Christians are doing is ethnic cleansing against a Muslim minority. The conflict is very much one of Christians working to expel Muslims from the country, and by all accounts, they’ve been very successful so far."

Pot meet kettle.

Not only do I condemn Muslims who do terrible things, but I also condemn EVERYONE who sinks to that level.


It is not a Christian atrocity.It is an atrocity committed by people who are falsely claiming to be Christians.Christianity unreservedly condemns such acts.I am not a Christian.
Many of the atrocities committed by Muslims are condoned by the teachings of various sects of this ideology.
The scales we should seek to balance are good and evil.Two evil acts merely add to the imbalance.

mightymoe's photo
Thu 06/02/16 06:29 AM

For a little balance, how about a modern Christian atrocity:

"[The Central African Republic Genocide] is an ongoing conflict... While the UN hasn’t called it a genocide yet, Reuters acknowledges that what the Christians are doing is ethnic cleansing against a Muslim minority. The conflict is very much one of Christians working to expel Muslims from the country, and by all accounts, they’ve been very successful so far."

Pot meet kettle.

Not only do I condemn Muslims who do terrible things, but I also condemn EVERYONE who sinks to that level.



good, they need expel the muslims...

PeterRobertson's photo
Thu 06/02/16 07:07 AM

It is not a Christian atrocity.It is an atrocity committed by people who are falsely claiming to be Christians.Christianity unreservedly condemns such acts.I am not a Christian.
Many of the atrocities committed by Muslims are condoned by the teachings of various sects of this ideology.
The scales we should seek to balance are good and evil.Two evil acts merely add to the imbalance.

Ah - the "No true Scotsman" fallacy.

mightymoe's photo
Thu 06/02/16 07:23 AM

but they want to live, and i support life.. muslims eradicate everyone who isn't muslim once they take hold of a country.. they still do it in every musilm run country now, and what makes you think they won't kill every christian once they get a firm hold in the country?

fighting for the right reasons is never a bad idea, what if everyone had your ideas when Hitler was trying to take over the world? we'd be speaking German right now because some people can't see the forest for the trees... you, being from England, should know this better than anyone, since y'all were about a week away from serving strudel and Heineken for at least the rest of the war...

it's their country, they should fight for it...

soufiehere's photo
Thu 06/02/16 07:34 AM
Edited for off-topic, kindly discuss the topic
without disparaging other members.

soufie
Site Moderator

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 06/02/16 07:39 AM

For a little balance, how about a modern Christian atrocity:

"[The Central African Republic Genocide] is an ongoing conflict... While the UN hasn’t called it a genocide yet, Reuters acknowledges that what the Christians are doing is ethnic cleansing against a Muslim minority. The conflict is very much one of Christians working to expel Muslims from the country, and by all accounts, they’ve been very successful so far."

Pot meet kettle.

Not only do I condemn Muslims who do terrible things, but I also condemn EVERYONE who sinks to that level.


well,a bit of Jedburgh-Justice if you can't get help from your Government!

you really need to some research on the Seleka-Movement!
They started it!
Oh my,they are a Muslim Movement!
So,your Argument is moot!

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 06/02/16 07:42 AM

For a little balance, how about a modern Christian atrocity:

"[The Central African Republic Genocide] is an ongoing conflict... While the UN hasn’t called it a genocide yet, Reuters acknowledges that what the Christians are doing is ethnic cleansing against a Muslim minority. The conflict is very much one of Christians working to expel Muslims from the country, and by all accounts, they’ve been very successful so far."

Pot meet kettle.

Not only do I condemn Muslims who do terrible things, but I also condemn EVERYONE who sinks to that level.

offtopic offtopic offtopic

PeterRobertson's photo
Thu 06/02/16 09:18 AM

you, being from England

Scotland actually.

Frankk1950's photo
Thu 06/02/16 09:56 AM


It is not a Christian atrocity.It is an atrocity committed by people who are falsely claiming to be Christians.Christianity unreservedly condemns such acts.I am not a Christian.
Many of the atrocities committed by Muslims are condoned by the teachings of various sects of this ideology.
The scales we should seek to balance are good and evil.Two evil acts merely add to the imbalance.

Ah - the "No true Scotsman" fallacy.


Not so.
The "no true Scotsman" fallacy is based on the ambiguity of the definition.My use of the term "unreservedly" removes the ambiguity inherent in the fallacy in this spcific instance.

mightymoe's photo
Thu 06/02/16 09:59 AM


you, being from England

Scotland actually.


there's a difference?