talking about or reporting about racism isnt causing or 'enflaming' racism

its pretty well ingrained in the country,, anyone thinking otherwise is duped

Because The HISTORY of racism is just that HISTORY...in the past...he is responsible for dividing people for things done in the past. I don't hold things done to my ancestors...it is HISTORY.

and a history of drinking by a pregnant mom has long term present effects for their child

its not history, its ongoing, its form just changes

history is the foundation that is laid for the present,,,,

Yes and in your mind it will continue forever...very sad.

lol


not just in my mind, no policy on earth will be able to keep every individual everywhere from ever being a bigot,, whether its based upon race, sex, lifestyle, etc


so individual racism will exist as long as 'race' does

however, institutionalized and justified racism or bigotry in our institutions can absolutely be challenged and improved as time goes on,,,,


just like its no longer supported to have schools which can exclude based upon race(public schools), or federally insured banks from refusing loans to women,,,,many other institutions that permit unequal treatment directly or indirectly, will and should be challenged to improve as well

Yes institutional racism like the Black Caucus (imagine an all white caucus) or how about media racism like BET(imagine an all white TV network) Yes, racism is certainly alive when some think they are entitled to special circumstances for something done 200 years ago..
But because we have a racism INDUSTRY that makes money off dividing people(Imagine where Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson would be if there wasn't any racism?LOL)then our country will always be divided by race.

United we stand decided we fall..simple phrase that's been around as long as I can remember...yet we just keep hating and blaming by color, faith, money,...political parties...when the problem is simple...yet no one is willing to budge...and nothing is free...elderly, sick, and some disabilities may put you in a dependent position...and we as people should respect that...low wages are ruff...but not all of us are equal ...not just by our differences but our contribution to what we try to achieve...but yelling and hating eachother because some have more opportunities...lol...this hate pot will never end...

As long as there are people that can gain power and money from that hate it will certainly fester.

GAWD, y do I bother

really?

you believe institutional racism is reflected by having a black caucus,,?

do you understand the reason for a black caucus was in RESPONSE to the institution supporting white people as the STATUS QUO already?

and media racism is having ONE channel called BET, because the names of all the networks before that which primarily represented white people, didnt happen to say 'white' in their name?

sigh,,



imagine where doctors would be if there were no sickness, so obviously doctors are happy about and using the sickness just to make money?

is that the implication ? that those who are speaking to issues of racism are hoping in secret that it continues so they can be able to speak about it or make money?


and jim crow was only 50 years ago, not 200,, and since jim crow, the disparity it caused, along with its predecessor slavery has not been truly impacted because any attention to african americans in that regard, is viewed as 'reverse racism ' now


its like the bully stepping on your foot for the first two miles of a race, and in the final mile feels like giving you a wheelchair is 'reverse' bullying,,,because its 'special' treatment for you

,,,,,,,smh

...was going to correct my decided as it's supposed to be divided...but decided people are just as bad...

I believe we should want for others as well as we have for ourselves,, differences should not mean 'more or better' deserving

for literally centuries, when we look at DEMOGRAPHICS(different than individuals) , blacks have systemically been excluded from the same opportunity to build up wealth, status, and to be educated anywhere near equally to their counterparts


if and when we set out to correct those wrongs,, just stopping the direct action isnt enough,, its like my example of kicking someone in the leg,,, once its injured,, just committing to not kick that person may stop it from getting 'worse' but does NOTHING to make it better


in this country we have moved quite a bit to stop the kicking , to halt things being worse,, but we confused that for having done enough to help it get BETTER

Well if we are going to blame the PAST again for why we have BET and the Black Caucus TODAY then we might as well blame all this on the Black men who started the slave industry in the U.S. 200 year ago.Those damn black tribal leaders who sold their fellow black men into slavery.
Maybe their families are wealthy now and American blacks can get some sort of restitution from them.

who said this was about blame? again, missing the point altogether

this is about dealing with the PRESENT and correcting the negative impacts we now see from the PAST

and the RELEVANT past for what happens here in AMERICA, has nothing to do with what happened in african tribes, as they are not here to implement change or take accountability, nor are they continuing any type of benefit from it whatsoever as a system or a people

but the american system can be held accountable for the part it played and is still playing,,,

...although statistics may illustrate that black people are not given equal opportunity...location and money play a larger role than race...most black people here are more prosperous then the natives...and a large percentage of whites are less fortunate than natives and blacks...the biggest problem to me is being judged by your past..wether you have bad credit or made a poor choice shouldn't effect your present and future...if you are willing to work you should be hired..if you don't work..fired..if can you pay your mortgage monthly..here's a home...credit and cash are not comparable..seems that the biggest screwed people are just judged too much by their past...regardless of color

Well therein lies the issue "held accountable for the part it played and IS STILL PLAYING" The Still playing is exactly the point of discussion. There is a very big difference between what is still playing and what is PERCEIVED to still be playing and the people who promote that perception.

I agree that money and location play a very large role, but unfortunately location and money are largely correlated with race and the history of racist policy in the country

I also agree that credit should not be used as criteria for anything where you arent asked to pay someone,, like employment

I also agree that past personal mistakes should not be used against people in any area that doesnt deal directly with the situation being assessed; for instance, if you were jailed for stealing a car, it wouldnt make sense for a car dealership to hire you,, but if you were jailed for driving without a license, that should not impact your ability to work in an office

the significance of 'credit' is a big puzzle in this country, most people I speak to in other countries dont really understand it,,,but thats off topic big time,,lol

agreed,,

either milliions are making a false allegation
or millions are falsely perceiving reality

or millions are experiencing exactly what they say and statistics mete out,, they are experiencing


the implicit racial bias INDIVIDUALS have thats proven over and over again in implicit association tests , either magically disappeared when jim crow ended, or its remnants are lingering and impacting a whole demographic by a system ran by INDIVIDUALS who hold those implicit biases against them

I haven't seen any evidence of "millions" making these racist claims.I see a few making claims there are millions being abused because of the color of their skin.

They want people to perceive there is wide spread racism. Just like in your remarks about BET and the Black Caucus, a result of "white" T.V. and "white" leadership in Congress.
Your "perception" is that these are examples of racism which is totally false.
Today Blacks make up only 13% of the population, 20 years ago they were less then 10%. That means almost 90% of the population of this country was(and is) white. That also means a very high % from T.V to business was(and is)white owned and operated, the same goes true in government. So if you make a T.V. show geared toward 90% of your viewers so you get better ratings and advertising dollars your a racist.
It seems to me some of these racism baiters think that Blacks should have half the jobs, half the college tuition, half the representation in Congress etc etc with only 13% of the population in a democratic republic.
In the End, these racism "promoters" confuse real racism with just plain old demographics.

in the end the blame game is lame

not once have I mentioned concern for 'blaming' anyone

racism is real, rather its hateful or just a consequence of being an oppressed minority for so long

there is 'PREFERENCE' for the dominant group already, its understood

so the group that isnt the preference must make their OWN in response,,,they didnt do it with any 'blame' in mind,, they did it to have some representation and understanding and concern for THEIR realities and experiences in THEIR COMMUNITIES

its no different than women forming the WNBA because the NBA was understood to be for and about men

but that has nothing to do with systemic inequalities in housing, the justice system, employment opportunities, etc,,etc,,etc,,,

http://www.allenbwest.com/matt-palumbo/5-facts-about-police-shootings-msnbc-will-never-report


Here are the facts about police shootings Obama will NEVER mention
Written by Matt Palumbo on July 9, 2016

The unifying issue of Black Lives Matter is clear: police brutality. Why do they say “black lives matter” when obviously we all acknowledge that “all lives matter”? Because they believe the problem of police brutality and killings is disproportionately affecting the black community.

Their radical behavior makes perfect sense when you understand they seriously believe that police are waging a war against them – and a problem of systemic, institutionalized racism exists among the ranks of law enforcement. But according to statistics presented by journalist Heather Mac Donald, these charges are completely unfounded.

Here are just five fascinating facts she’s uncovered, courtesy of the Daily Wire:

1. Cops killed nearly twice as many whites as blacks in 2015. According to data compiled by The Washington Post, 50 percent of the victims of fatal police shootings were white, while 26 percent were black. The majority of these victims had a gun or “were armed or otherwise threatening the officer with potentially lethal force,” according to MacDonald.

Some may argue that these statistics are evidence of racist treatment toward blacks, since whites consist of 62 percent of the population and blacks make up 13 percent of the population. But as MacDonald writes in The Wall Street Journal, 2009 statistics from the Bureau of Justice Statistics reveal that blacks were charged with 62 percent of robberies, 57 percent of murders and 45 percent of assaults in the 75 biggest counties in the country, despite only comprising roughly 15 percent of the population in these counties.

“Such a concentration of criminal violence in minority communities means that officers will be disproportionately confronting armed and often resisting suspects in those communities, raising officers’ own risk of using lethal force,” writes MacDonald.

2. More whites and Hispanics die from police homicides than blacks. According to MacDonald, 12 percent of white and Hispanic homicide deaths were due to police officers, while only four percent of black homicide deaths were the result of police officers.

“If we’re going to have a ‘Lives Matter’ anti-police movement, it would be more appropriately named “White and Hispanic Lives Matter,'” said MacDonald.

3. The Post’s data does show that unarmed black men are more likely to die by the gun of a cop than an unarmed white man…but this does not tell the whole story. In August 2015, the ratio was seven-to-one of unarmed black men dying from police gunshots compared to unarmed white men; the ratio was six-to-one by the end of 2015. But MacDonald points out in The Marshall Project that looking at the details of the actual incidents that occurred paints a different picture:

The “unarmed” label is literally accurate, but it frequently fails to convey highly-charged policing situations. In a number of cases, if the victim ended up being unarmed, it was certainly not for lack of trying. At least five black victims had reportedly tried to grab the officer’s gun, or had been beating the cop with his own equipment. Some were shot from an accidental discharge triggered by their own assault on the officer. And two individuals included in the Post’s “unarmed black victims” category were struck by stray bullets aimed at someone else in justified cop shootings. If the victims were not the intended targets, then racism could have played no role in their deaths.

4. Black and Hispanic police officers are more likely to fire a gun at blacks than white officers. This is according to a Department of Justice report in 2015 about the Philadelphia Police Department, and is further confirmed that by a study conducted University of Pennsylvania criminologist Gary Ridgeway in 2015 that determined black cops were 3.3 times more likely to fire a gun than other cops at a crime scene.

5. Blacks are more likely to kill cops than be killed by cops. This is according to FBI data, which also found that 40 percent of cop killers are black. According to MacDonald, the police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black than a cop killing an unarmed black person.

And regarding the last statistic – while the rhetoric of BLM is founded on lies, its consequences are very real. So far this year twenty-six police officers have been killed in the line of duty, which is 44 percent higher than at this point last year.