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Edited by
Serchin4MyRedWine
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If you're over 35, you lived through it, so read it and recollect.
For those under 35, read this, verify and don't forget. When Bill Clinton was president, he allowed Hillary to assume authority over an attempt at health care reform. Even after threats and intimidation, she couldn't get a vote in a Democrat controlled US Congress. This fiasco cost the American taxpayers about $13 million for Studies, promotion, and other Efforts. Then, President Clinton gave Hillary authority over selecting a female attorney general. Her first two selections were Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood - both were forced to withdraw their names from consideration. Next, she chose Janet Reno - husband Bill described her selection as "my worst mistake." Some may not remember that Reno made the decision to gas David Koresh and the Branch Davidian religious sect in Waco, Texas resulting in dozens of deaths of women and children. Husband Bill allowed Hillary to make recommendations for the head of the Civil Rights Commission. Lani Guanier was her selection. When a little probing led to the discovery of Ms. Guanier's radical views, her name had to be withdrawn from consideration. Apparently a slow learner, husband Bill allowed Hillary to make some more recommendations. She chose former law partners Web Hubbel for the Justice Department, Vince Foster for the White House staff,and William Kennedy for the Treasury Department. Her selections went well: Hubbel went to prison, Foster (presumably) committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign. Many younger votes will have no knowledge of "Travelgate." Hillary wanted to award unfettered travel contracts to Clinton friend Harry Thompson - and the White House Travel Office refused to comply. She managed to have them reported to the FBI and fired. This ruined their reputations, cost them their jobs, and caused a thirty-six month investigation. Only one employee, Billy Dale was charged with a crime, and that of the enormous crime of mixing personal and White House funds. A jury acquitted him of any crime in less than two hours. Still not convinced of her ineptness, Hillary was allowed to recommend a close Clinton friend, Craig Livingstone, for the position of Director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of about 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (Filegate) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, suddenly Hillary and the president denied even knowing Livingstone, and of course, denied knowledge of drug use in the White House. Following this debacle, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office after more than thirty years of service to seven presidents. Next, when women started coming forward with allegations of sexual harassment and rape by Bill Clinton, Hillary was put in charge of the "bimbo eruption" and scandal defense. Some of her more notable decisions in the debacle were: She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. After the Starr investigation they settled with Ms. Jones. She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and Later admitting his affairs. Hillary's devious game plan resulted in Bill Losing his license to practice law for 'lying under oath' to a grand jury and then his subsequent impeachment by the House of Representatives. Hillary avoided indictment for perjury and obstruction of justice during the Starr investigation by repeating, "I do not recall," "I have no recollection," and "I don't know" a total of 56 times while under oath. After leaving the White House, Hillary was forced to return an estimated $200,000 in White House furniture, china, and artwork that she had stolen. What a swell person - ready for another four or eight years of this low-life fool? Now we are exposed to the unsecured keeping and attempted destruction of beyond Top Secret emails while Hillary was US Secretary of State and the "pay to play" schemes of the Clinton Foundation. What "shoe will fall" next. But to her loyal fans: "What difference does it make?" Do we really need countless scandals and investigations? More Corruption and pay for play?( remember selling the Lincoln bedroom for cash?) Electing Hillary Clinton president is a very bad idea. |
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no real evidence of a president 'allowing' their spouse to make political decisions for them
bill Clinton isn't running ,,,we can start another thread with trumps bad choices,,,and his supporters will just say such failures are really successes or that they are expected and no big deal |
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Edited by
Serchin4MyRedWine
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no real evidence of a president 'allowing' their spouse to make political decisions for them bill Clinton isn't running ,,,we can start another thread with trumps bad choices,,,and his supporters will just say such failures are really successes or that they are expected and no big deal OMG..here we go again...are you saying Hillary didn't take charge of the Health care reform back then? She even admits it herself...more typical spin from you again  And your right..Bill isn't running, This incompetent fool named Hillary is! |
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yes, she was selected to chair healthcar
but the other claims of her being 'allowed' to make decisions for the president are hearsay at best a husband consulting with a wife, when it happens, is not the same as the wife making the decisions,,, that's as sexist garbage as all the antihillary nonsense centered around her husbands decisions |
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yes, she was selected to chair healthcar but the other claims of her being 'allowed' to make decisions for the president are hearsay at best a husband consulting with a wife, when it happens, is not the same as the wife making the decisions,,, that's as sexist garbage as all the antihillary nonsense centered around her husbands decisions Why not fact check them and research the subject matter before making general conclusions what you THINK is hearsay....just a thought 
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Edited by
msharmony
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Tue 08/09/16 07:02 PM
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Why not fact check them and research the subject matter kettle to pot "ditto" |
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lol
as always? ok 
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Why not fact check them and research the subject matter kettle to pot "ditto" I did but you, as always never do....well you can't teach a turtle to bark so I'm done 
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If you're over 35, you lived through it, so read it and recollect. For those under 35, read this, verify and don't forget. When Bill Clinton was president, he allowed Hillary to assume authority over an attempt at health care reform. Even after threats and intimidation, she couldn't get a vote in a Democrat controlled US Congress. This fiasco cost the American taxpayers about $13 million for Studies, promotion, and other Efforts. Then, President Clinton gave Hillary authority over selecting a female attorney general. Her first two selections were Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood - both were forced to withdraw their names from consideration. Next, she chose Janet Reno - husband Bill described her selection as "my worst mistake." Some may not remember that Reno made the decision to gas David Koresh and the Branch Davidian religious sect in Waco, Texas resulting in dozens of deaths of women and children. Husband Bill allowed Hillary to make recommendations for the head of the Civil Rights Commission. Lani Guanier was her selection. When a little probing led to the discovery of Ms. Guanier's radical views, her name had to be withdrawn from consideration. Apparently a slow learner, husband Bill allowed Hillary to make some more recommendations. She chose former law partners Web Hubbel for the Justice Department, Vince Foster for the White House staff,and William Kennedy for the Treasury Department. Her selections went well: Hubbel went to prison, Foster (presumably) committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign. Many younger votes will have no knowledge of "Travelgate." Hillary wanted to award unfettered travel contracts to Clinton friend Harry Thompson - and the White House Travel Office refused to comply. She managed to have them reported to the FBI and fired. This ruined their reputations, cost them their jobs, and caused a thirty-six month investigation. Only one employee, Billy Dale was charged with a crime, and that of the enormous crime of mixing personal and White House funds. A jury acquitted him of any crime in less than two hours. Still not convinced of her ineptness, Hillary was allowed to recommend a close Clinton friend, Craig Livingstone, for the position of Director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of about 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (Filegate) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, suddenly Hillary and the president denied even knowing Livingstone, and of course, denied knowledge of drug use in the White House. Following this debacle, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office after more than thirty years of service to seven presidents. Next, when women started coming forward with allegations of sexual harassment and rape by Bill Clinton, Hillary was put in charge of the "bimbo eruption" and scandal defense. Some of her more notable decisions in the debacle were: She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. After the Starr investigation they settled with Ms. Jones. She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and Later admitting his affairs. Hillary's devious game plan resulted in Bill Losing his license to practice law for 'lying under oath' to a grand jury and then his subsequent impeachment by the House of Representatives. Hillary avoided indictment for perjury and obstruction of justice during the Starr investigation by repeating, "I do not recall," "I have no recollection," and "I don't know" a total of 56 times while under oath. After leaving the White House, Hillary was forced to return an estimated $200,000 in White House furniture, china, and artwork that she had stolen. What a swell person - ready for another four or eight years of this low-life fool? Now we are exposed to the unsecured keeping and attempted destruction of beyond Top Secret emails while Hillary was US Secretary of State and the "pay to play" schemes of the Clinton Foundation. What "shoe will fall" next. But to her loyal fans: "What difference does it make?" Do we really need countless scandals and investigations? More Corruption and pay for play?( remember selling the Lincoln bedroom for cash?) Electing Hillary Clinton president is a very bad idea. Thank you Mr. Red and I am old enough to remember all of these things and the "Hearsay also among other things... I am not crazy about Trump and I sure in the Hell don't want someone as "crooked" as either Clinton back in office... IMO |
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I remember trump didn't rent to black folks
I remember elvis said blacks couldn't shine his shoes I remember trump raped his wife I also remember all these things were only alleged and never proven,,, she has the experience with global politics and she has experience with the real life or death pressures of political office, and she has a lifetime of experience choosing to help children and families besides her own did she always get it right? no but she tried and showed where her passions are,,, she showed that she has temperament, patience and intelligence to dive in to serious concerns and issues I will take that over a pompous , temperamental, juvenile billionaire whose claim to fame is helping himself ,,,,anyday |
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Serious question for anyone to answer....if either of the candidates croaks before the election, what's the procedure for replacing them?
And CIA, if you're monitoring, I'm not thinking about offing them, am just curious
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Serious question for anyone to answer....if either of the candidates croaks before the election, what's the procedure for replacing them? And CIA, if you're monitoring, I'm not thinking about offing them, am just curious seems to me the candidate with the next largest delegate count would be nominated I believe its unprecedented, but let me research,,, |
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Serious question for anyone to answer....if either of the candidates croaks before the election, what's the procedure for replacing them? And CIA, if you're monitoring, I'm not thinking about offing them, am just curious Reb, it's the NSA... and I will put in a good word for you... LOL |
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yes, she was selected to chair healthcar but the other claims of her being 'allowed' to make decisions for the president are hearsay at best a husband consulting with a wife, when it happens, is not the same as the wife making the decisions,,, that's as sexist garbage as all the antihillary nonsense centered around her husbands decisions Travel gate. File gate. These two scandals alone, go beyond mere "consulting". |
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traveling and email don't count for much of anything for me
unless the travel was for a health spa for a month on tax dimes or the emails were intentionally sent to another government with information about undercover operatives,,,lol otherwise, plenty of us uses and deletes emails and and plenty of politicians travel |
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Serious question for anyone to answer....if either of the candidates croaks before the election, what's the procedure for replacing them? And CIA, if you're monitoring, I'm not thinking about offing them, am just curious seems to me the candidate with the next largest delegate count would be nominated I believe its unprecedented, but let me research,,, ""the rules of the Republican Party authorize the Republican National Committee to fill the vacancy, either by reconvening a national convention or by having RNC state representatives vote. The new nominee must receive a majority vote to officially become the party candidate. the Democratic Party's charter and bylaws state that responsibility for filling that vacancy would fall to the Democratic National Committee, but the rules do not specify how exactly the DNC would go about doing that. (Congress could also pass a special statute and push back Election Day, giving the dead candidate's party time to regroup.)"" http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2008/09/dead_by_election_day.html .....oh well, I was just curious. |
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Do we really want to go there again? I don't know. I feel like the closer we get to November I'm trapped in a haunted house. I open one door, there's michael myers, so I run to the other door, and there's jason voorhees, I turn around, myers, turn around, jason. There's no escape and the terror keeps closing in, with nowhere else to go. Go there again? There's no way not to go someplace horrible. fact check them and research the subject matter I did... I don't think you did. The OP is copied and pasted from other sites, and no source is given even though highlighting and searching any section comes up with lots of links. And a lot of what is in the OP is not fact, convenient interpretation of events, and/or just plain manipulation turning irrelevant things into something nefarious. I mean "Reno made the decision to gas David Koresh" No, she didn't. The FBI came up with a plan, Janet Reno approved it. As written it seems like Janet Reno made some kind of plan, and presented it to the FBI, as though the FBI are just sitting around waiting to be told what to do and how to do it. That's not how it works. So Hillary is a monster because at one point she suggested appointing someone to a position whom went on to approve a plan by the FBI which subsequently lead to bad things? Jimmy Carter was president in 1979. Jeffrey Dahmer was in the military that year. Carter coddles serial killers! We better arrest Carter for allowing a serial killer in the army! |
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no real evidence of a president 'allowing' their spouse to make political decisions for them bill Clinton isn't running ,,,we can start another thread with trumps bad choices,,,and his supporters will just say such failures are really successes or that they are expected and no big deal what do you expect,a Handwritten signed Confession from those two Reprobates? 
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I mean "Reno made the decision to gas David Koresh" No, she didn't. The FBI came up with a plan, Janet Reno approved it. As written it seems like Janet Reno made some kind of plan, and presented it to the FBI, as though the FBI are just sitting around waiting to be told what to do and how to do it. That's not how it works. What part of "made the decision" don't you get? I never said she came up with the plan as you imply.The FBI "MAY HAVE" come up with the plan but it was HER DECISION TO GAS all those women and children. Talk about twisting semantics 
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I mean "Reno made the decision to gas David Koresh" No, she didn't. The FBI came up with a plan, Janet Reno approved it. As written it seems like Janet Reno made some kind of plan, and presented it to the FBI, as though the FBI are just sitting around waiting to be told what to do and how to do it. That's not how it works ''Atty. Gen. Janet Reno on Tuesday vigorously defended her decision in 1993 to approve a tear-gas assault on the Branch Davidian compound near Waco, Tex."" http://articles.latimes.com/1995-08-02/news/mn-30642_1_tear-gas-attack Now please do the right thing and admit how wrong you were. I'll admit, I won't be holding my breath. |
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