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Topic: Professors Tell Students To Drop Class If You Dispute....
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Sun 09/04/16 04:26 AM
Edited by SassyEuro2 on Sun 09/04/16 04:38 AM


Professors tell students: Drop class if you dispute man-made climate change

- The College Fix
http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/28825/
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Three professors co-teaching an online course called “Medical Humanities in the Digital Age” at the University of Colorado-Colorado Springs recently told their students via email that man-made climate change is not open for debate, and those who think otherwise have no place in their course.

“The point of departure for this course is based on the scientific premise that human induced climate change is valid and occurring. We will not, at any time, debate the science of climate change, nor will the ‘other side’ of the climate change debate be taught or discussed in this course,” states the email, a copy of which was provided to The College Fix by a student in the course.

Signed by the course’s professors Rebecca Laroche, Wendy Haggren and Eileen Skahill, it was sent after several students expressed concern for their success in the course after watching the first online lecture about the impacts of climate change.

“Opening up a debate that 98% of climate scientists unequivocally agree to be a non-debate would detract from the central concerns of environment and health addressed in this course,” the professors’ email continued.

“… If you believe this premise to be an issue for you, we respectfully ask that you do not take this course, as there are options within the Humanities program for face to face this semester and online next.”

The professors also note this ban on debate extends to discussion among students in the online forums. Moreover, students who choose to use outside sources for research during their time in the course may select only those that have been peer-reviewed by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the email states.

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Professors Laroche, Skahill, and Haggren did not respond to email inquiries from The College Fix seeking further comment on their email or their stance on debate in their online class.

The University Communications Director Tom Hutton told The College Fix via email that “Humanities 3990 is a special topics course with multiple choices for students to take when fulfilling requirements.”

“By clearly stating the class focus,” he continued, “the faculty are allowing students to choose if they wish to enroll in the course or seek an alternative. Additionally, the faculty who are leading the course have offered to discuss it with students who have concerns or differing opinions.”

In addition to teaching man-made climate change, the course also delves into the “health effects of fracking,” according to its syllabus.

The reading assignments in the fracking section focus on only its negative impacts and fail to present the other side of the issue, namely the possible benefits of fracking.

Assigned readings includes: “4 States Struggling to Maintain Radioactive Fracking Waste,” “EPA Study on Fracking Ignored Contamination Studies,” and “Frack Free Colorado: ‘Colorado’s Affected People.’”

An activity assigned within that section instructs students to take a test to measure their own carbon footprint. The purpose, reads the syllabus, “is not to create guilt or shame, though those emotions are entirely common.”
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Portland, Oregon school board prohibits classroom materials on climate change skepticism
http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/27550/

May 22, 2016
This past Tuesday the Portland, Oregon Public Schools Board voted unanimously to ban any classroom materials — including textbooks — that cast doubt on climate change.

In addition, humanity’s effect on climate must be presented as “one of the phenomenon’s causes.”

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Sun 09/04/16 04:46 AM
I would tell him what to do with his Course,just before I walked out!

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Sun 09/04/16 05:30 AM
Good! All academic experts on the subject agree

Climate change is happening and it's happening here and now

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Sun 09/04/16 07:43 AM
Yay!
Dirty hippy liberals,
winning a debate.

Not with facts.
But by banning any type of discourse.

How very "free speech" of the dirty liberals.

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Sun 09/04/16 07:57 AM
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/09/01/green-arctic-expedition-frustrated-large-quantities-ice/

Ship of Fools II: Green Arctic Expedition Frustrated by Large Quantities of Ice

laugh

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Sun 09/04/16 08:05 AM
Had people listened to (James Hansen) twenty years ago, Manhattan wouldn’t be underwater now. -- Steve Goddard

laugh

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Sun 09/04/16 08:11 AM
The professors also note this ban on debate extends to discussion among students in the online forums. Moreover, students who choose to use outside sources for research during their time in the course may select only those that have been peer-reviewed by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the email states.
The new Colorado....where men may actually not be men and the sheep are perpetually nervous...

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Sun 09/04/16 09:35 AM

Yay!
Dirty hippy liberals,
winning a debate.

Not with facts.
But by banning any type of discourse.

How very "free speech" of the dirty liberals.


not to mention the liberal approach on sciences...

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Sun 09/04/16 09:36 AM

Had people listened to (James Hansen) twenty years ago, Manhattan wouldn’t be underwater now. -- Steve Goddard

laugh


and al gore... all the polar bears are dead and the poles have no ice...

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Sun 09/04/16 09:52 AM


Had people listened to (James Hansen) twenty years ago, Manhattan wouldn’t be underwater now. -- Steve Goddard

laugh


and al gore... all the polar bears are dead and the poles have no ice...
rofl

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Sun 09/04/16 10:17 AM
I would tell him what to do with his Course,just before I walked out!

What would you have walked out of? It's an online course.

winning a debate.
Not with facts.
But by banning any type of discourse

Per the article: "If you believe this premise to be an issue for you...ban on debate extends to discussion among students in the online forums...there are options within the Humanities program for face to face this semester and online next.

"...allowing students to choose if they wish to enroll in the course or seek an alternative... faculty who are leading the course have offered to discuss it with students who have concerns or differing opinions.


That's more like capitalism.

"We do not participate in that business. We do not carry that product. You don't have to do business with us. That store over there might have what you want. Please don't stand in the aisles screaming or interfering with the other patrons trying to do the business we offer. If you want us to carry that product talk with the purchasing manager directly."


Other than that blame the students for supporting the course with their money.
Blame the government for subsidizing student choices with student loans.

It's a university. The kids aren't 6. They're at least 18 and adults. Responsible for the decisions they make and the products they buy.
If this course continues, thrives, then it's the "fault" of the students not the teachers, not the school.

Blame the university and censorship if there are no other universities and no other courses except this one.
When there are healthy, abundant, alternatives, it's not censorship, it's not indoctrination.

Teachers and classes are simply a product offered by schools when there is not compulsory attendance.

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Sun 09/04/16 10:45 AM
Yes, trump university is the perfect place to enroll if you want to learn how to deny everything related to "global warming"

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Sun 09/04/16 11:52 AM

Yes, trump university is the perfect place to enroll if you want to learn how to deny everything related to "global warming"


maybe... i would never trust any liberal on the subject, since all they see it as a business opportunity... obarry and al gore proved that over and over...

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Mon 09/05/16 04:35 AM
Edited by JOHNN111 on Mon 09/05/16 04:40 AM
Not sure what the brain freeze is all about with our southern neighbors
The wellbeing of the planet we live on is not always politically or financially motivated.

Global empires always get a chitkicking sooner or later, the Romans were quite proficient at building aqueducts systems, the piping was made using lead and eventually made the people crazy and made poor decisions which contributed to their downfall.

In America, the empire is starting to crack because of the overuse of nano chemical toxins, ya'll are puckin crazy now, you just don't realize it yet lolsmokin

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Mon 09/05/16 07:53 AM
Well, you have to admit, no matter what your take on climate problems are, that this makes sense.

If the professors BASED THE ENTIRE CLASS on a certain premise, then allowing that premise to be debated will make the entire class impossible to proceed with.

It's classic old-style left-wing thinking, to declare as people here seem to be doing, that the students should be allowed to dictate the agenda of the courses they are taking, and that whatever the STUDENTS decide is true, is what has to be accepted.

You guys want to go down that "student run university" road you can, but I saw that approach fail every time it's been tried so far.

Besides, if everyone who disagrees with the premise DOES drop the class, and that proves to be the majority of students, the University will discontinue it.

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Mon 09/05/16 08:00 AM
Here is a commercial world version of what this is about:

A company is started up to build cars. Someone applies to get a job with that company.

After joining the staff, they decide that they don't think cars are a good idea.

The car manufacturer tells them "If you are opposed to the idea of cars, get a job somewhere else. We are here to build cars."

I'd side with the car company, myself.

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Mon 09/05/16 08:15 AM
yep,makes for a well-rounded Education teaching one half of a Subject,and suppress the other half!
Sounds quite progressive!laugh

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Mon 09/05/16 10:11 AM

yep,makes for a well-rounded Education teaching one half of a Subject,and suppress the other half!
Sounds quite progressive!laugh


You are thinking entirely politically, and not rationally. Hence still missing the point. No single class is the entire educational system.

There is no SUPPRESSION going on.

mightymoe's photo
Mon 09/05/16 10:54 AM

Here is a commercial world version of what this is about:

A company is started up to build cars. Someone applies to get a job with that company.

After joining the staff, they decide that they don't think cars are a good idea.

The car manufacturer tells them "If you are opposed to the idea of cars, get a job somewhere else. We are here to build cars."

I'd side with the car company, myself.


equating education with selling cars...whoa no wonder why the liberals are destroying the world... education is showing all sides of a topic, not just picking what you want to omit because it doesn't flow with your agenda...


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Mon 09/05/16 11:06 AM


Here is a commercial world version of what this is about:

A company is started up to build cars. Someone applies to get a job with that company.

After joining the staff, they decide that they don't think cars are a good idea.

The car manufacturer tells them "If you are opposed to the idea of cars, get a job somewhere else. We are here to build cars."

I'd side with the car company, myself.


equating education with selling cars...whoa no wonder why the liberals are destroying the world... education is showing all sides of a topic, not just picking what you want to omit because it doesn't flow with your agenda...




You are also ignoring the facts to suit your politics.

Unless the professors were working to prevent ANYONE ANYWHERE from teaching a class that did not fit their ideas, there was no suppression, and no need to "show all sides of the subject."

Since you apparently don't think logic applies to the working world, how about a school-based analogy?

If someone is teaching a course on how to best arm the military, should students taking that class be allowed to spend the bulk of the class time arguing that war is wrong, and that no weapons should be allowed anywhere? Just to make sure of "showing all sides"? I would say logically, no.

But apparently you would differ.

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