that's it about in a Nutshell!

once again Dodo, Im kind of disappointed at the continued use of political labels to define the situation

in actuality,, ANYTIME the electoral college and the popular vote dont match, the electoral college comes into question by the side on the popular vote

it just so happens, in this century, both times the popular vote went democratic and the electoral vote went republican

So what are the numbers on the popular vote? And on the subject of "educated" voters the Democrats tend to get a lot of the minority vote. Do these people have college degrees? If so why don't they use them to go out and get good paying jobs? The DFL (Democratic Farmer Labor) party, I don't think of farmers as being educated from the ones I have known.

wow

where do we start,,lol

the popular vote numbers are in another thread

Igor explained the educated voters demographic, but I will give it a shot

OF those with college education or more who exercised their right to vote, the majority went to the democratic candidate


not everyone that voted democratic has a degree, and not everyone who voted republican does not

and yes, minorities do actually hold degrees,, though not all of them do anymore than all non minorities do

it may come as surprise that the job market is competitive, and not all about education,, so just 'getting a job' is not a given for even someone with an education,, and a topic for another day

The popular vote numbers are posted in this thread a little ways back and yes they do vary depending on when and where you see them, and you are willing to say Hiliary won the popular votes before they are all counted. The educated point was made when you said some people are college educated and don't use it. I am college educated and it doesn't do much for me as a skilled craftsman. I'll say I maybe dumb, but I'm not stupid. Common sense can go much farther than education. The media has put too much emphasis on the "College education" like Trump supporters are stupid

The media has pointed out many demographics

from education, to gender, to race, to geography

people take from that what they will

Wow....

What do Dems want.. for the foal flag to be throw?. when no foal was committed.

The rules haven't changed and both candidate new them before the race.

SHE LOST... fair and square...time for them to ACCEPT it

fair and square by the current rules

fair and square, subjectively, is something else

people won 'fair and square' (by the rules) when women couldnt vote, when blacks couldnt vote

I am glad those things were not 'accepted', and perhaps this is another time when we can review our standards for how votes 'count'

Quoted for the "educated" left,
who obviously lack basic arithmetic skills.

Trump won the popular vote.

with no source

numbers dont mean much

Sure, bring it back up before the next election. You mentioned that you would like to get involved in something special to you.. to make a difference well, why not this?. Spearhead it. It would be quite a accomplishment. Quite impressive.

But for now ( and the next 4 years) President elect Trump is our President.

the electoral system allows for the electorate to make their own decision,,,if they decide to go with Clinton


I wonder how many of those 'just accept the system' people will quietly go away with no protest or contest,,,,

Did you not accept the system rules pre race?. Because if you did not, you never mentioned it here.

Dems knew the rules, Republicans too.. as did the American people.

But now post race you do not accept them.

Would you have accepted it if Clinton won?

I think... so

I accept that a disconnect occurs between the people who are told 'their vote counts' and the electoral system

If clinton had won the electoral and not the popular, I would understand and accept the right of people to protest and seek a review of the system

yes

And that would remain to actually be seen.

yes, if only all information was not reported until complete

that would be refreshing

Well, if I am not mistaken, This same situation happened in 2000 with Bush. Did the Dems complain about it then?. Because if they did, the Bush years were followed by 8 years of Dem rule in which they could have addressed it.

But it does not appear the subject was ever brought up.

But now it a problem?

And the count is still taking place, the final numbers are not even in. So are you sure Trump does not have the popular vote?.

whoever has the "Popular Vote" is moot,all that counts is the Electoral Votes,and the majority of those didn't go to Hillary Clinton!

yes, the " system" was written into the Constitution in 1787... pretty long ago. Accepted as the rule during every single Presidential race since then, by both sides. 4 Presidents were elected to the highest office without gaining the popular vote, going back to 1877.. again, pretty long ago.

This " system" is in our constitution for a reason. And accepted by all... to this day.

So, I don't see it changing and frankly, there is no reason for it to .

however the electors voted the same as the people of their state so whats the beef?

Do libs want a couple hundred extra senators and reps too?