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Topic: November 22, 1963, Dallas, TX
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Tue 11/22/16 08:26 PM






The last great American President! Rest in peace Jack....


Great? The a$$hole was soft on communism and royally screwed up on Cuba. The whole Cuban missile crisis could have been avoided.


Wrong. As always the **** ups in the federal government ****ed up. The CIA Run by George Bush, totally incompetent. Failed utterly in the bay of Pigs in 61.

And FYI LPDON,

If JFK had botched Cuba, We'd all be dead. And the cockroaches woupd be ruling the world. He save the world from nuclear war with the Soviet Union. Johnson was an fool for keeping us in an stupid and useless war, against a people that did not want us there. VIETNAM cost us a generation of Americans that would have cleaned the vermin that exist in Washington DC.

So, Yes ....

John Fitzgerald "Jack" Kennedy... THE GREATEST AMERICAN PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

Also the last American President to reach out to the Native American community. **** the rest.


laugh Bush wasn't director of the CIA until the late 70's, in fact when Kennedy was killed he was the CEO of Zapata Petroleum. laugh

Oh and The Bay Of Pigs and Operation Mongoose were two of the biggest military blunders in American history, both personally ordered by Kennedy and he would have tat Castro to begin with the Cuban missile crisis wouldn't have happened.

laugh Oh and BTW, Kennedy was the one who first sent troops into Vietnam and Southern China. laugh You might want to learn history a little. laugh rofl laugh

God I needed a good laugh today. Thank you!


LPDON,

It is you that Crack me up. You politicos, people in the know, the "well educated" are always insulting or lying about history, to the common people.

The fact is Dwight D. Eisenhower was supporting France in Vietnam in 1954. Technical specialists, weapons and logistics. Comon Don, you should know better... or maybe you should read history books instead of a silly Google search.

"U.S. officials were concerned that a victory by Ho’s forces and/or an agreement in Geneva might leave a communist regime in control of all or part of Vietnam. In an attempt to rally congressional and public support for increased U.S. aid to the French, President Eisenhower gave an historic press conference on April 7, 1954."

Microphone drop.....BOOOOM!

Well well well.... It gives me great satisfaction to prove a lobby type like yourself wrong.

Remember,
We know your secrets now. We will remove the lying vermin that change history to suit their twisted political aims. By the way thanks...you made my day.. rofl

Oh and about your Coffee story about George Bush in the CIA... ********.

There is evidence that he was present in Dallas at the murder scene. Tell me Don, what was he doing there??? Buying coffee?? You can't be that gullible.
Here is the wiki leaked files on his involvement in the assassination of the Last Great American President.

We have a symbiotic relationship, you and I. Oh, should I explain what that means to you? ;^)

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://mobile.wnd.com/2013/09/did-george-h-w-bush-witness-jfk-assassination/&ved=0ahUKEwir36vul73QAhUhxVQKHX1hAWsQFggrMAE&usg=AFQjCNHE8GJxQj1F0ME45QxU-6jnn6MlGA&sig2=O95FWMxlfpAYIQlTNduWyQ



It's funny how you attack one of the greatest General's in not only American history but in world history. The man who came up with, led and executed the plan to end the most devastating war in world history when Kennedy was cruising around on a PT boat, but that's another subject.

Of course we were supporting France, they were a key ally in the fight against communism, but we didn't officially go to war and put boots on the ground until Kennedy and Johnson.

Oh and god forbid Bush was in Texas when Kennedy was shot since Zapata had offices in Houston, Dallas and other cities in Texas.

It' not surprising that his name appears on a CIA list since Zapata had contracts with the military industrial complex and was one of about 300 companies that the DOD and CIA used. The extent of it was listening posts on their oil platforms to monitor Cuban activity, god forbid.

You may fantasize you have a relationship with me, but that's your issue.


Relax man, your just a sore loser...
Really hit a nerve didn't I? Lol. Relax, you don't know truth anymore than the rest of us.

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Tue 11/22/16 09:46 PM


2. ...you left out how Kennedy played the mob then screwed them. He used them to get elected, he also used them to try to assassinate Castro and played on their hatred of him for shutting down their Casino's and brothels in Cuba. However I think Giancana and Trafficante were all talk. Any political mob hit would have had to been approved by the Mafia Commission run by Carlo Gambino. We have turned way to many high ranking mobsters, Underbosses and even Bosses and someone would have talked by now. Besides, the commission had a rule of not going after prosecutors or politicians because it would bring the full force of the Federal Government down on them. If Giancana and Trafficante acted on their own without the Commission it would have been an automatic death sentence.

The operation to assassinate Castro, Operation 40, was repurposed after the Bay of Pigs to instead hit Kennedy.

Gambino had gambling interests in pre-Castro Cuba, in partnership with Meyer Lansky. Therefore had reason to hate Kennedy for supplying insufficient support for the Bay of Pigs invasion.

James Files, who has confessed that he fired the fatal shot from the grassy knoll, worked for Charles "Chuckie" Nicoletti, an underling of Sam Giancana.

Jim Marrs, in the radio program I cite above, speaks of a letter removed from the Dallas police files by the FBI, but seen and noted by several credible witnesses before its removal. The letter warns of a plot to assassinate JFK in Chicago. Giancana's city.

An unauthorized attempted hit in Chicago previous to the successful Dallas attempt, might at least partly explain why Giancana met his death the way he did.

As for Trafficante, note paragraph three of this article:
https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Santos_Trafficante_-_It_Should_Have_Been_Bobby.html

I know that Zapata Oil and other offshore oil companies benefitted from side contracts to spy on Cuba and Russia. But Clint Murtchison's company was primarily an onshore gas pipeline company. Onshore oil companies in western Texas, Oklahoma, and elsewhere had no capability to spy on Cuba and Russia, thus JFK would have cost them an enormous amount of money.

When I say "Illuminati" I am not talking about the 18th-Century anti-Catholic southern Bavarian organization of Adam Weishaupt, rather about the Rothschild Khazarian banking mafia which governs the City of London and schedules meetings every year at Davos, Switzerland and at the annual Bilderberg conference, both of which are closed to the press.



I just don't buy the Mafia theory. They have a long standing rule no assassinations on politicians and that is proven. They killed their top guy and head of Murder Inc. Dutch Schultz for conspiring to kill Thomas Dewey and he was just a local politician at the time appointed as a special prosecutor. There's no way they would green light the President.

Giancana was killed because of two reasons, he was not sharing his profits from casino's in Mexico and Iran and He was out of the Mob but was trying to push his way back in to be boss. He was ordered to a sit down shortly before he was killed and when your ordered to a sit down that means your looking at offense with the mob that results in death.

Within minutes of his death Joseph Aiuppa's men were in the casinos taking control.

Also high ranking outfit member Nicholas Calabrese who supplied the weapon and was a turned informant for the FBI confirmed who and why Giancana was killed at the family secrets trial. Lefty Rosenthal also confirmed that Anthony Spilatro was Giancana's killer and was ordered back from Vegas to Chicago to do the job.

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Tue 11/22/16 10:15 PM
Lemnitzer's curriculum vitae is highly suggestive. He had the necessary experience in organizing "wet ops," he had Mafia connections in Italy including Sicily itself, and he's the guy who hired Lansdale to run Operation Mongoose. Read this:
http://www.progressivepress.com/blog-entry/50-years-after-jfk-murder-finger-finally-points-pentagon-chief-lemnitzer


Conrad_73's photo
Wed 11/23/16 12:43 AM
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-reston-jfk-assassination-target-20161122-story.html

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Wed 11/23/16 12:56 AM
http://jamesfilesjfkmurder.wordpress.com/2008/11/01/jim-marrs-with-grassy-knoll-shooter-james-files/



James Files claims to have taken the Fatal Shot from the Grassy Knoll,and he knows things about the Assassination he ought not know,unless he was an active participant!

Lpdon's photo
Wed 11/23/16 05:07 AM

Lemnitzer's curriculum vitae is highly suggestive. He had the necessary experience in organizing "wet ops," he had Mafia connections in Italy including Sicily itself, and he's the guy who hired Lansdale to run Operation Mongoose. Read this:
http://www.progressivepress.com/blog-entry/50-years-after-jfk-murder-finger-finally-points-pentagon-chief-lemnitzer




The mob has always been a fascination of mine and I think I have read about everything there is out there about it. I think we can agree to respectfully disagree on this subject.

Lpdon's photo
Wed 11/23/16 05:14 AM







The last great American President! Rest in peace Jack....


Great? The a$$hole was soft on communism and royally screwed up on Cuba. The whole Cuban missile crisis could have been avoided.


Wrong. As always the **** ups in the federal government ****ed up. The CIA Run by George Bush, totally incompetent. Failed utterly in the bay of Pigs in 61.

And FYI LPDON,

If JFK had botched Cuba, We'd all be dead. And the cockroaches woupd be ruling the world. He save the world from nuclear war with the Soviet Union. Johnson was an fool for keeping us in an stupid and useless war, against a people that did not want us there. VIETNAM cost us a generation of Americans that would have cleaned the vermin that exist in Washington DC.

So, Yes ....

John Fitzgerald "Jack" Kennedy... THE GREATEST AMERICAN PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

Also the last American President to reach out to the Native American community. **** the rest.


laugh Bush wasn't director of the CIA until the late 70's, in fact when Kennedy was killed he was the CEO of Zapata Petroleum. laugh

Oh and The Bay Of Pigs and Operation Mongoose were two of the biggest military blunders in American history, both personally ordered by Kennedy and he would have tat Castro to begin with the Cuban missile crisis wouldn't have happened.

laugh Oh and BTW, Kennedy was the one who first sent troops into Vietnam and Southern China. laugh You might want to learn history a little. laugh rofl laugh

God I needed a good laugh today. Thank you!


LPDON,

It is you that Crack me up. You politicos, people in the know, the "well educated" are always insulting or lying about history, to the common people.

The fact is Dwight D. Eisenhower was supporting France in Vietnam in 1954. Technical specialists, weapons and logistics. Comon Don, you should know better... or maybe you should read history books instead of a silly Google search.

"U.S. officials were concerned that a victory by Ho’s forces and/or an agreement in Geneva might leave a communist regime in control of all or part of Vietnam. In an attempt to rally congressional and public support for increased U.S. aid to the French, President Eisenhower gave an historic press conference on April 7, 1954."

Microphone drop.....BOOOOM!

Well well well.... It gives me great satisfaction to prove a lobby type like yourself wrong.

Remember,
We know your secrets now. We will remove the lying vermin that change history to suit their twisted political aims. By the way thanks...you made my day.. rofl

Oh and about your Coffee story about George Bush in the CIA... ********.

There is evidence that he was present in Dallas at the murder scene. Tell me Don, what was he doing there??? Buying coffee?? You can't be that gullible.
Here is the wiki leaked files on his involvement in the assassination of the Last Great American President.

We have a symbiotic relationship, you and I. Oh, should I explain what that means to you? ;^)

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://mobile.wnd.com/2013/09/did-george-h-w-bush-witness-jfk-assassination/&ved=0ahUKEwir36vul73QAhUhxVQKHX1hAWsQFggrMAE&usg=AFQjCNHE8GJxQj1F0ME45QxU-6jnn6MlGA&sig2=O95FWMxlfpAYIQlTNduWyQ



It's funny how you attack one of the greatest General's in not only American history but in world history. The man who came up with, led and executed the plan to end the most devastating war in world history when Kennedy was cruising around on a PT boat, but that's another subject.

Of course we were supporting France, they were a key ally in the fight against communism, but we didn't officially go to war and put boots on the ground until Kennedy and Johnson.

Oh and god forbid Bush was in Texas when Kennedy was shot since Zapata had offices in Houston, Dallas and other cities in Texas.

It' not surprising that his name appears on a CIA list since Zapata had contracts with the military industrial complex and was one of about 300 companies that the DOD and CIA used. The extent of it was listening posts on their oil platforms to monitor Cuban activity, god forbid.

You may fantasize you have a relationship with me, but that's your issue.


Relax man, your just a sore loser...
Really hit a nerve didn't I? Lol. Relax, you don't know truth anymore than the rest of us.


Then by your logic there isn't a loser since you correctly pointed out no one on here really knows what happened, and most of us probably will never know since a lot of the records are sealed for at least 30 more years I believe.

Also you didn't hit a nerve, you just made me laugh. I could care less what some anonymous person on the internet thinks since they have the right to their own opinion as long as they don't make any threats (not saying you did).

carefulwisher's photo
Wed 11/23/16 04:43 PM


Lemnitzer's curriculum vitae is highly suggestive. He had the necessary experience in organizing "wet ops," he had Mafia connections in Italy including Sicily itself, and he's the guy who hired Lansdale to run Operation Mongoose. Read this:
http://www.progressivepress.com/blog-entry/50-years-after-jfk-murder-finger-finally-points-pentagon-chief-lemnitzer


The mob has always been a fascination of mine and I think I have read about everything there is out there about it. I think we can agree to respectfully disagree on this subject.


True. It's a minor quibble at this remove in time. A smidgen of distant history to most people alive today, they weren't even born yet. We might as well be talking about the assassination of William McKinley.

E. Howard Hunt in his deathbed confession indicated that LBJ was at the top of the command structure for the assassination. But LBJ, shrewd cold-blooded killer that he was, did not have experience in planning and carrying out military-precision highly-compartmentalized triangulated-crossfire assassinations.

Neither, actually, did Giancana.

Lemnitzer sure did, though.

Rock's photo
Wed 11/23/16 06:14 PM
... And, in the year, 2025, the heavily redacted government files
on the Kennedy assassination, will be made public.

... And, in the year 2026, the same debate will rage.
Just as it did, in '66, '76, '86, '96, 2006, and 2016.
Who killed JFK?

Lpdon's photo
Wed 11/23/16 09:41 PM



Lemnitzer's curriculum vitae is highly suggestive. He had the necessary experience in organizing "wet ops," he had Mafia connections in Italy including Sicily itself, and he's the guy who hired Lansdale to run Operation Mongoose. Read this:
http://www.progressivepress.com/blog-entry/50-years-after-jfk-murder-finger-finally-points-pentagon-chief-lemnitzer


The mob has always been a fascination of mine and I think I have read about everything there is out there about it. I think we can agree to respectfully disagree on this subject.


True. It's a minor quibble at this remove in time. A smidgen of distant history to most people alive today, they weren't even born yet. We might as well be talking about the assassination of William McKinley.

E. Howard Hunt in his deathbed confession indicated that LBJ was at the top of the command structure for the assassination. But LBJ, shrewd cold-blooded killer that he was, did not have experience in planning and carrying out military-precision highly-compartmentalized triangulated-crossfire assassinations.

Neither, actually, did Giancana.

Lemnitzer sure did, though.



No he didn't but Hoover had plenty of experience and so did the top military leaders who hated Kennedy as well as Dulles.

Lpdon's photo
Wed 11/23/16 09:42 PM

... And, in the year, 2025, the heavily redacted government files
on the Kennedy assassination, will be made public.

... And, in the year 2026, the same debate will rage.
Just as it did, in '66, '76, '86, '96, 2006, and 2016.
Who killed JFK?


That's if they don't push that date back again!

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Wed 11/23/16 10:56 PM

No he didn't

As Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff it was Lemnitzer who proposed Operation Northwoods; Kennedy relieved him of his chairmanship for it, citing insubordination, and sent him to Europe to be Supreme Allied Commander of NATO. In that capacity he ran Gladio-style operations, false-flag assassinations of political leaders. French President Charles de Gaulle withdrew French troops from NATO and ordered NATO to move its headquarters from Paris to Brussels during Lemnitzer's command, quite likely because de Gaulle suspected Lemnitzer of a role in the many assassination attempts against him.

It was Lemnitzer who nominated Lansdale to be Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations (including wet ops), and then approved his promotion to Assistant Secretary, from which job Lansdale commanded Operation Mongoose.

Jim Marrs, author of the book Crossfire, on Rense tonight, said a newly discovered print of one of the films of the assassination, he didn't say which one, is uncropped and thus shows a wide view. An apparent rifleman and his muzzle flash can be seen in an upper-floor window of the County Building, he says.

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Wed 12/14/16 11:06 PM


No he didn't

As Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff it was Lemnitzer who proposed Operation Northwoods; Kennedy relieved him of his chairmanship for it, citing insubordination, and sent him to Europe to be Supreme Allied Commander of NATO. In that capacity he ran Gladio-style operations, false-flag assassinations of political leaders. French President Charles de Gaulle withdrew French troops from NATO and ordered NATO to move its headquarters from Paris to Brussels during Lemnitzer's command, quite likely because de Gaulle suspected Lemnitzer of a role in the many assassination attempts against him.

It was Lemnitzer who nominated Lansdale to be Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations (including wet ops), and then approved his promotion to Assistant Secretary, from which job Lansdale commanded Operation Mongoose.

Jim Marrs, author of the book Crossfire, on Rense tonight, said a newly discovered print of one of the films of the assassination, he didn't say which one, is uncropped and thus shows a wide view. An apparent rifleman and his muzzle flash can be seen in an upper-floor window of the County Building, he says.



My bad, but there's just no way the mobs involved. To many things weigh against it. Firs the Commission would have had to be all in. Something this big would be kept to only made men close to the families leadership. No outsider or associate would even have a hint of knowledge of this. Oswald wasn't even an associate and Ruby was an associate and had the biggest mouth in the mob. The guy couldn't keep a secret if his life depended on it and he wouldn't be trusted to handle this.

Want proof, look at the Hoffa hit. That had the full blessing of the commission and outside the commission approximately 5 people knew and they were all ranking made men. They knew because they were involved.

So if the mob would go to all the trouble to kill Hoffa and keep it quiet why would they include so many people including outsiders to kill the most important person in the world. It just wouldn't happen.

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