Topic: We're almost a socialist country (usa)
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Thu 05/28/20 10:49 AM
The Astonishing Shredding of the Constitution by California-Based Judges and the Legislature

THOMAS DEL BECCARO

As the nation prepares to reopen, the response to the COVID-19 crisis has taught us many lessons, not the least of which is that politicians and judges are willing to run roughshod over the Constitution if it suits their purposes.

Nowhere is that more true than in California.

Recently, a panel of 9th Circuit judges based in California, in a split opinion, upheld a ban on church services. Two judges who are sworn to uphold the law suspended the Constitution and wrote that if a “court does not temper its doctrinaire logic with a little practical wisdom, it will convert the constitutional Bill of Rights into a suicide pact.”

Meanwhile, California’s Gov. Gavin Newsom has “required” “Mortgage Payment Relief During COVID-19 Crisis.” Courts have suspended eviction and foreclosure proceedings and the legislature is considering a law that would allow “bars, restaurants and entertainment venues to renegotiate rent prices with their landlords if they’ve experienced a 40-percent drop in revenue or have limited their capacity by at least 25 percent to safely reopen their doors,” according to the Sacramento Bee.

In plain terms, our Founding Fathers would be horrified. But then again, they never imagined government spending topping 50 percent of the economy either—and that is just where we are headed with the response to COVID-19.

We would do well to remember that one of the main reasons we have a Constitution was the reaction of the post-Revolution politicians to a depression. After the Revolution, the colonies were deeply in debt and taxes were far higher than those imposed by England. Combined with lost trade and private debt, a deep recession ensued.

Debtors were suffering during those bad economic times and politicians came to their rescue by enacting various laws that permitted them to repay their debts in installments, shut down courts to prevent judgments, and printed paper money so that debtors who took out their loans in gold could pay it back with paper of lesser value.

The states were enacting laws at such a fast and furious pace that our founders saw the economic uncertainly and damage the reaction to the crisis was causing to trade across state lines and internationally. Alexander Hamilton thought Americans were “growing tired of an excess of democracy.” Others identified the problem as “a headstrong democracy,” a “prevailing rage of excess democracy,” or “democratical tyranny.”

It must be said that judges sworn to uphold the Constitution can’t do so by suspending the Constitution.

The solution the founders fashioned, and again, a central reason we have a Constitution, was the

famed contract clause. Article 1, Section 10, Clause 1 states: “No State shall . . . coin Money . . . or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts . . .”

Keep in mind that our founders were often short and blunt with their words.

They needed few words to convey that the states wouldn’t change the terms of the existing contracts by “impairing” them.

They enshrined that law in the Constitution precisely because states were passing laws that permitted debtors to get out from their debts, delay payments, or pay their debts with dubious paper money.

Who among us today thinks a state court would cite that history or that language?

As for not allowing church services, it must be said that judges sworn to uphold the Constitution can’t do so by suspending the Constitution. It is also worth remembering that the Revolutionary War was fought amid the deadly smallpox epidemic.

At the time, and to this day, there is no known cure. The mortality rate for those who contracted smallpox was 30 percent overall and 80 percent among children. Nevertheless, the founders fashioned the First Amendment that says, quite bluntly: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ...”

According to the two liberal judges who backed Newsom’s dubious restrictions on churches, “We’re dealing here with a highly contagious and often fatal disease for which there presently is no known cure.” The court opinion, of course, cites no evidence to back its “scientific” conclusion.

Of course, COVID-19 is nowhere near as dangerous as small pox, which was estimated to have killed somewhere between 300 and 500 million people. Such perspective, however, is lost today.

The legendary historian Will Durant once said, “History is an excellent teacher with few pupils.” It appears that many politicians and judges have missed class, too, and we are all the worse for it. Thomas Del Beccaro is the author of “The Divided Era” and former chairman of the California Republican Party.


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Thu 05/28/20 11:53 AM
i believe the governors are and werevdoing whats necessary. if trump would quit worrying about himself and took action when he knew about it 100,000 plus wouldnt be dead. some people are a symptomic and pass it on.

groups do not need to gather,it has killedvpeople. this will not be solved until a vacine.

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Thu 05/28/20 11:57 AM
I think we should leave it to Supreme Court to interpret the Constitution.

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Thu 05/28/20 03:18 PM
Edited by Rock on Thu 05/28/20 03:24 PM
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Thu 05/28/20 04:58 PM
We are rapidly becoming a nation of sheeple. And just so you can tell your fellow proles, sheeple with a MASK!!!!

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Wed 07/15/20 06:55 PM
Edited by DesertFalcon on Wed 07/15/20 06:56 PM

Response to Space Cadet.....


Almost!

Take another look.

The only thing between Communist America and The Restoration of our Republic is President Trump and the White Hats.

Let’s pray for The Republic.

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Wed 07/15/20 10:26 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 07/15/20 10:29 PM
Socialism is an economic system where everyone equally owns production. Allocation is according to contribution. We are not even close. We have huge gaps of very wealthy and very poor and a shrinking middle. We have some who do manual labor that destroys their body that make not even half as much as others who can sit on their butt in air conditioning all day. We have CEOS and Sports and media owners who make exponentially more than their employees. Equal ownership?

nowhere close.


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Thu 07/16/20 01:46 PM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Thu 07/16/20 01:46 PM
Socialism leads to communisim. Countries like Venezuela were rich, now they in ruins.

Those in America who want to change our Constitution are dangerous.

California was in deep :poop: way Before any Covid 19.

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Thu 07/16/20 01:57 PM

Socialism leads to communisim. Countries like Venezuela were rich, now they in ruins.

Those in America who want to change our Constitution are dangerous.

California was in deep :poop: way Before any Covid 19.


I kind of think the founders would disagree, since they wrote it to be amended and it has been amended up into the 1970s. Times change and evolve. The living constitution is meant to change and evolve with them.





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Thu 07/16/20 02:45 PM
The far left is not looking for an amendment. They are looking to control all aspects of government ie socialism. Your paycheck will be 90% given to the government for their Free programs. You will get 10%. everyone will be on food stamps, unemployed, just look at cuba, china, vietnam, bengladesh, all bordering now on communism. If Biden gets elected, he will be a puppet. He doesnt even know how to complete a sentence, so Omar, AOC, all those socialists, (bernie),.... they will get Pelosi replaced and tell Biden every move to make. I am preparing for this. Everyone one should be scared to death of socialism.

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Thu 07/16/20 02:57 PM


Socialism leads to communisim. Countries like Venezuela were rich, now they in ruins.

Those in America who want to change our Constitution are dangerous.

California was in deep :poop: way Before any Covid 19.


I kind of think the founders would disagree, since they wrote it to be amended and it has been amended up into the 1970s. Times change and evolve. The living constitution is meant to change and evolve with them.







I disagree!

It's not to be changed to please Leftist leaders ideology!




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Thu 07/16/20 03:51 PM



Socialism leads to communisim. Countries like Venezuela were rich, now they in ruins.

Those in America who want to change our Constitution are dangerous.

California was in deep :poop: way Before any Covid 19.


I kind of think the founders would disagree, since they wrote it to be amended and it has been amended up into the 1970s. Times change and evolve. The living constitution is meant to change and evolve with them.







I disagree!

It's not to be changed to please Leftist leaders ideology!






Political labels aside. It is to be changed THROUGH what is called amendments. That is their sole purpose. Those who wanted to and did change the constitution through amendments were not dangerous for doing so.