Show me your evidence that we have.

No prison camps, no US citizen held without habeus corpus, no US phone lines have been illegally tapped (tapped communiation between a US and a non-US entity is not illegal), Muslims have not been rounded up, people are still free to assemble so much so they are allowed to disrupt Congressional hearings and get a slap on the wrist. We have not been limited the rights to bear arms since 9/11. Freedom of the press is greater than ever.

No US phonelines illegaly tapped? You sure about that? You have the data to prove it? So you are saying if I have relatives in the middle east and I call them I can have my line tapped without just cause?

The argument was if those lines were tapped without just cause or a warrant. Presidential powers are provided in our constitution and are not to be bypassed nor ignored by any president.

This administration fuels itself by fear campaigns and legal corruption. In Desert Storm we liberated Kuwait, the most oil rich region in the world.Yet our oil has reached 100 a barrel. NOw we liberate Iraq and no change. Oil companies are making record profits with our oil man in the white house.

You barely even refutted anything I said.

Do you have any evidence that US phonelines have been tapped between US citizen and US citizen without a warrant? Unless you have the evidence, proven in a court of law, then you have nothing to stand on besides fear rhetoric. And yes, legally, when one end of the phone conversation is with a non-US citizen the government is legally able to listen in on that conversation. Unless you are talking about conspiratorial stuff they aren't going to listen in on you, that is if they are even there at all.

If ONE end of the phone conversation is a NON-US citizen, there is nothing unconstitutional about that.

Your argument on oil is ridiculous as well. The oil companies have NO control over the cost for a barrel of oil. OPEC sets the price directly.

In order to shut you down with the oil argument, I am going to use the incredibly liberal MSNBC report.

"Even as their overall profits have soared, major oil companies are earning a relatively modest 8.7 percent profit margin -- the portion of the sale of each barrel that hits the bottom line." - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8646744/

Oil companies make, at most for I have seen lower figures as well, a rounded NINE PERCENT profit margin. I suppose a NINE PERCENT profit is far too much for you though?

You have no evidence that they have not been tapped so I guess we are at a tie there. I realize OPEC sets the price, I am not an idiot. Who do you think is in the membership? SAUDI ARABIA, KUWAIT, UAE. I would figure they would have influence based on what sacrifices we have made to those a-holes.

MSNBC:

"Exxon Mobil posts record profit of $10.7 billion"

"Exxon’s profit for the year was also the largest annual reported net income in U.S. history, according to Howard Silverblatt, a senior index analyst for Standard & Poor’s. He said the previous high was Exxon’s $25.3 billion profit in 2004."


Pretty bold statement on a mere profit.

Not getting the point of what you are saying, however I can come up with a very interesting conclusion. Are you saying we should order these countries we support and assist to give us cheaper oil or we will remove support? We are the ones at the short end, they have what we need, we can't screw with them. It's what they have over us.

Don't see how you can point the finger at US oil companies though. It's not their fault that the price for a barrel of oil is so high or it costs so much to refine oil or the HUGE amount of taxes they pay the federal and state government on it. They make a small sliver of profits on the oil they sell per year, a NINE percent profit. The cost of crude oil, the cost to refine it in the few out of date refineries we have, the transportation costs, employee pay, and the huge amount of taxes they pay are why gas prices are where there are.

Saying how darn PRIVATE oil companies much such a profit, when in fact it is an incredibly small amount to what they should be making, is very callous and extremely anti-capitalist.

Not getting the point of what you are saying, however I can come up with a very interesting conclusion. Are you saying we should order these countries we support and assist to give us cheaper oil or we will remove support? We are the ones at the short end, they have what we need, we can't screw with them. It's what they have over us.

Don't see how you can point the finger at US oil companies though. It's not their fault that the price for a barrel of oil is so high or it costs so much to refine oil or the HUGE amount of taxes they pay the federal and state government on it. They make a small sliver of profits on the oil they sell per year, a NINE percent profit. The cost of crude oil, the cost to refine it in the few out of date refineries we have, the transportation costs, employee pay, and the huge amount of taxes they pay are why gas prices are where there are.

Saying how darn PRIVATE oil companies much such a profit, when in fact it is an incredibly small amount to what they should be making, is very callous and extremely anti-capitalist.

Don't get me started on Pay but since you brought it up...

In its financial reports submitted to the Securities and Exchange Commission this week, ExxonMobil detailed the payout to Raymond and other executives at the company in 2005. Raymond retired on December 31 after 43 years of service. He oversaw the transformation of the company into the largest, and perhaps the most ruthless, privately held energy company in the world.

Raymond’s compensation package for 2005 was about $70 million. This includes $4 million in base salary, $4.9 million in bonuses, $32.1 million in restricted stock allocations, $7.5 million as part of a long-term incentive plan, and $21.2 million in exercised stock options.

On top of this, Raymond walked away from the company with a lump sum pension payout of $98 million (he elected to receive the sum up front rather than distributed over the remainder of his life). The company filing also reported that Raymond owns in total about $183 million in restricted stock (including what he received in 2005) and stock options valued at another $70 million.

All together: $400 million, give or take a million dollars or two. This is on the order of 10,000 times what an average American worker can hope to earn in a year.

As for OPEC, I would say a break would be nice as a token of appreciation for all of out efforts. But I guess not.

Enjoy your day!

Any school boy knowes that the minute bombs start going off in the midle east the price of oil goes way up.thanks to Bush and all his oil pals the entire economy is in shambles and as far as that pay for that oil tycoon, no one is worth that kind of money, its criminal. This fat cat ceo probly spends his free time lobying congress to cut back on his taxes.

You wish to dictate private companies and make sure they make only what you feel is right, would 5 percent profit be too much for you, or how about 1 percent?

As demand goes up it will cause the price of a barrel of oil to go up as well. The need for energy is reaching all new highs year after year, especially with the boom of China. China is sapping more and more for the demand rises every week to a whole new high.

This according to a Jan. 2008 article from the NY Times:

"Booming economies in recent years have led to more consumption of oil-derived products like gasoline, jet fuel and diesel. Political tensions in countries like Nigeria, Venezuela and Iran have threatened world supplies, while important fields in Mexico, the United States and other countries are aging and producing less.

Big oil companies, though flush with cash from record profits, are having trouble finding promising new fields to increase supplies. Newly found fields in the deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico and off the coast of Brazil will take years to develop." - http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/02/business/02cnd-oil.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Not once in the article do they contribute it to US war in Iraq or Afghanistan, and this is the NY Times. So wise up.

Unemployment is nearly nill (for it is 5%, a number long standing noted as being full employment for the 5% is largely filled with those who choose not to work), the federal government had the highest gathering of taxes last year thanks to corporate taxes (which are among the highest in the world) and income tax, and the overwhelming number of Americans are satisfied with their lives (according to a Dec. 07 Gallup poll, 84% of Americans are happy with their lives).

You are spewing common leftie rhetoric.