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Topic: DEFEAT WITHOUT END
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Mon 02/04/08 06:46 PM
What I think was the real Reason the Bush Gang started the Iraq War Was: Money!! An American puppet by the name of Saddam seemed to forget that He was a puppet and decided He no longer answered to the US, so he changed his oil selling methods, He started selling oil for EUROS, instead of federal reserve notes, I guess Russia also quit using federal reserve notes,and now Iran has quit using federal reserve notes for oil, a few days ago Bush made a quick trip to Saudia Arabia, to talk, I guess they informed Bush ,that they also have plans to quit using federal reserve notes in oil sales, same thing with Chavez. So the latest rumour is that the Us cut internet cables under the ocean to places in the Mideast banking systems, It looks like the oil people know how to put the federal reserve out of business ,by not doing any more business with the federal reserve. There is a terrible money system battle going on as we speak.Federal reserve is fighting for its life. It needs to be dumped I believe it is responsible for lots of wars . Plus, I believe it is a CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION< and is Totally, UnConstitutional, and I have doubt that the federal reserve Act, was ever legally passed!! Saddam dealing in Euros ,brought the planes in a hurry, that is the same reason they want to get Iran, (dumping the federal reserve system,One main reason why JFK was murdered, HE too was dumping the federal reserve system ,and was already printing US NOTES, which did not pay any interest to the PRIVATE federal reserve system.I had some of those us notes, but after Kennedy was shot, the banks removed them out of circulation. Hey Guys, It is the Money system behind it all, the wars , the recession, the stock market, It is the PARASITE federal reserve system!!!Go Gettum!!They cause INFLATION< AND DEFLATION< RESESSION< MORTGAGE CRISIS!!ETC<

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Mon 02/04/08 07:17 PM

What I think was the real Reason the Bush Gang started the Iraq War Was: Money!! An American puppet by the name of Saddam seemed to forget that He was a puppet and decided He no longer answered to the US, so he changed his oil selling methods, He started selling oil for EUROS, instead of federal reserve notes, I guess Russia also quit using federal reserve notes,and now Iran has quit using federal reserve notes for oil, a few days ago Bush made a quick trip to Saudia Arabia, to talk, I guess they informed Bush ,that they also have plans to quit using federal reserve notes in oil sales, same thing with Chavez. So the latest rumour is that the Us cut internet cables under the ocean to places in the Mideast banking systems, It looks like the oil people know how to put the federal reserve out of business ,by not doing any more business with the federal reserve. There is a terrible money system battle going on as we speak.Federal reserve is fighting for its life. It needs to be dumped I believe it is responsible for lots of wars . Plus, I believe it is a CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION< and is Totally, UnConstitutional, and I have doubt that the federal reserve Act, was ever legally passed!! Saddam dealing in Euros ,brought the planes in a hurry, that is the same reason they want to get Iran, (dumping the federal reserve system,One main reason why JFK was murdered, HE too was dumping the federal reserve system ,and was already printing US NOTES, which did not pay any interest to the PRIVATE federal reserve system.I had some of those us notes, but after Kennedy was shot, the banks removed them out of circulation. Hey Guys, It is the Money system behind it all, the wars , the recession, the stock market, It is the PARASITE federal reserve system!!!Go Gettum!!They cause INFLATION< AND DEFLATION< RESESSION< MORTGAGE CRISIS!!ETC<


this is a very large topic that you are tryin to educate people on so it may have been hard for some people to believe/follow, but it's true. the us printed it's own money before 1913 as our constitution demanded, then woodrow wilson signed the federal reserve act of 1913 which required us to start borrowing our money from the federal reserve(international bankers) they have been able to "influence" our economy ever since. most all of the other countries of the world have also been promised a "more elastic currency" by these men and have signed on to have them "mediate" their currencies with the rest of the world's. and we're all wakin up to their subterfuge

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Mon 02/04/08 07:23 PM
war is the most profitable thing for the international bankers because the countries at war have to fund it and to do this they borrow more money from the bankers. since they are the bankers for most countries nowadays, most wars have earned them money on both sides. since they can "influence" the countries that are in debt to them, some people have deduced that they might actually want war between their "customers". war is profit

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Mon 02/04/08 09:20 PM




In all seriousness, when you mean research do you mean searching the internet for sites that confirm your beliefs or go and talk to people that are actually there? You cant trust the internet. I mean I googled "aliens controlling the government" and found this.
http://www.sherryshriner.com/sherry/reality.htm

it was the first link. I mean if you want to believe everything on the net be prepared to protect yourself from the armies from the 4th dimension. laugh laugh
are you realy in Collage? you can go google the dwoning street minuts and get the actual documents that have all the lies. I am sorry you take me for an idiot but let me assure you I know all about the internet and what you can find if you look, I tend to go with the experts and actual documents that are out there. If your such a bright boy go ahead and prove me wrong with the type of information that is verifiable. you cant so you blather on about what ever issue you think I have and think that wins a debate. pay attention in class and take some histroy classes

I was asking a serious question and you still didnt answer it. Have you personally talked to anyone that was there? People and documents are two different things.

I have seen in your other post you quoting conspiracy theories about 9/11 and when I give you a link that explains the physics and science of why and how the towers fell like they did you would still tell people that you didn't understand why the towers fell straight down.

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brmiddleeastnafricara/165.php?nid=&id=&pnt=165&lb=brme

This talks about a bunch of stuff in Iraq but makes the point that only 35% of Iraqis want us gone now. Another 35% says 2 years and 29% say once things get better. I would say that means that most Iraqis don't want us gone now.
your links on 911 never explained anything to someone who doenst believe in fairy tales. speaking of links were is oyur link thats has thedata you just submited? I would like to see that survay


For one thing the link its in my post. Here it is again

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brmiddleeastnafricara/165.php?nid=&id=&pnt=165&lb=brme

My 9/11 site was fairy tales?laugh I didnt realize physics was fairy tales. I will support physics over conspiracy theory anyday.

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Mon 02/04/08 09:54 PM
You know i posted all this i am going to tell you when it was happening. Some of it you may remember but not really thinking much about.

Lets go back to nov 24 2006. Cheney is sent at the king of Saudi arabia's request. This was no normal request escessially when our VP does not fly much .After this meeting the Kings own personal pressman tells the Washington post and they ran it for about 12 hours then retracted what they had said and NO other news agency said a word. What did the Kings Pressman say. That the king was upset with the way the war was going. That sunni's were being slaughtered and they are Saudi's cousins of sort. He went on to say he told our VP he had 2 choices get the fighting under control or Saudi would. What was Saudi's plan.


1 Cut the price of oil in 1/2 and flood the market to put Irans economy in dire straits.

2. They would over run our troops that they should leave and right now.

They would take thier American made planes which they do get our best and would over run the country and any resistance would mean death.

Now if you remember also at this time we were up in arms that Iran was making or has nukes. This would of stopped any of that work..

Now after this when the washington post retracted thier story said that the Kings pressman was fired for saying what he did. Fired A Saudi King does not fire someone who has lied about him. It is more like Off with his head.

To go on with what happened here you might remember if we fast foward to Feb 2007. The Ambassador to the USA from Saudi after just 18months at that position decides to retire for personal reasons. Thier was even a white house briefing on this.

Now who was this ambassador? For 1 he was the King's pressmans boss. He was the chief intelligent officer for the king for 25 years before the king sending him over hear.

Another little tid bit some of you might remember happened at the 1st of the year. Iran wanted to make peace with Saudi Arabia. Can You Imagine that. So we had a chance to bring our troops hope.cheap oil and Iran's economy crippled so bad they couldn't do anything with nukes. Sounds like a win win situation to me. We had a way out and let them take it over . Nobody in the region can even come close to Saudi's military power as it is 6th in the world.

Now lets go back to Nov and Cheney comes home and briefs the president. What do you think happened? Bush anounces that to contain the war we have to have more troops. 25000 +. This is our govt. at work. This is our press at work.I just wonder who works for who. It is very confusing to me.....Miles

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Tue 02/05/08 01:48 AM





In all seriousness, when you mean research do you mean searching the internet for sites that confirm your beliefs or go and talk to people that are actually there? You cant trust the internet. I mean I googled "aliens controlling the government" and found this.
http://www.sherryshriner.com/sherry/reality.htm

it was the first link. I mean if you want to believe everything on the net be prepared to protect yourself from the armies from the 4th dimension. laugh laugh
are you realy in Collage? you can go google the dwoning street minuts and get the actual documents that have all the lies. I am sorry you take me for an idiot but let me assure you I know all about the internet and what you can find if you look, I tend to go with the experts and actual documents that are out there. If your such a bright boy go ahead and prove me wrong with the type of information that is verifiable. you cant so you blather on about what ever issue you think I have and think that wins a debate. pay attention in class and take some histroy classes

I was asking a serious question and you still didnt answer it. Have you personally talked to anyone that was there? People and documents are two different things.

I have seen in your other post you quoting conspiracy theories about 9/11 and when I give you a link that explains the physics and science of why and how the towers fell like they did you would still tell people that you didn't understand why the towers fell straight down.

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brmiddleeastnafricara/165.php?nid=&id=&pnt=165&lb=brme

This talks about a bunch of stuff in Iraq but makes the point that only 35% of Iraqis want us gone now. Another 35% says 2 years and 29% say once things get better. I would say that means that most Iraqis don't want us gone now.
your links on 911 never explained anything to someone who doenst believe in fairy tales. speaking of links were is oyur link thats has thedata you just submited? I would like to see that survay


For one thing the link its in my post. Here it is again

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brmiddleeastnafricara/165.php?nid=&id=&pnt=165&lb=brme

My 9/11 site was fairy tales?laugh I didnt realize physics was fairy tales. I will support physics over conspiracy theory anyday.
http://iwilltryit.com/freefall1.htm

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Tue 02/05/08 01:51 AM
Edited by madisonman on Tue 02/05/08 01:52 AM






In all seriousness, when you mean research do you mean searching the internet for sites that confirm your beliefs or go and talk to people that are actually there? You cant trust the internet. I mean I googled "aliens controlling the government" and found this.
http://www.sherryshriner.com/sherry/reality.htm

it was the first link. I mean if you want to believe everything on the net be prepared to protect yourself from the armies from the 4th dimension. laugh laugh
are you realy in Collage? you can go google the dwoning street minuts and get the actual documents that have all the lies. I am sorry you take me for an idiot but let me assure you I know all about the internet and what you can find if you look, I tend to go with the experts and actual documents that are out there. If your such a bright boy go ahead and prove me wrong with the type of information that is verifiable. you cant so you blather on about what ever issue you think I have and think that wins a debate. pay attention in class and take some histroy classes

I was asking a serious question and you still didnt answer it. Have you personally talked to anyone that was there? People and documents are two different things.

I have seen in your other post you quoting conspiracy theories about 9/11 and when I give you a link that explains the physics and science of why and how the towers fell like they did you would still tell people that you didn't understand why the towers fell straight down.

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brmiddleeastnafricara/165.php?nid=&id=&pnt=165&lb=brme

This talks about a bunch of stuff in Iraq but makes the point that only 35% of Iraqis want us gone now. Another 35% says 2 years and 29% say once things get better. I would say that means that most Iraqis don't want us gone now.
your links on 911 never explained anything to someone who doenst believe in fairy tales. speaking of links were is oyur link thats has thedata you just submited? I would like to see that survay


For one thing the link its in my post. Here it is again

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brmiddleeastnafricara/165.php?nid=&id=&pnt=165&lb=brme

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Tue 02/05/08 07:37 AM
I would like to remind eveyone once again that attacking others for there opinion is not allowed on this site. You make have a healthy debat but one does not attack the messeger. Does not matter if there facts are right or wrong the correct way is to debat it with your own facts and prove the other wrong. Opinions are just that facts are facts. So please take the time if you chose to post on anothers threads and not attack anyone elses opinion but instead dispute there opinion with the facts instead. If for some reason that can not be done then please past that post up.


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Tue 02/05/08 09:58 AM
Edited by Chazster on Tue 02/05/08 09:58 AM







In all seriousness, when you mean research do you mean searching the internet for sites that confirm your beliefs or go and talk to people that are actually there? You cant trust the internet. I mean I googled "aliens controlling the government" and found this.
http://www.sherryshriner.com/sherry/reality.htm

it was the first link. I mean if you want to believe everything on the net be prepared to protect yourself from the armies from the 4th dimension. laugh laugh
are you realy in Collage? you can go google the dwoning street minuts and get the actual documents that have all the lies. I am sorry you take me for an idiot but let me assure you I know all about the internet and what you can find if you look, I tend to go with the experts and actual documents that are out there. If your such a bright boy go ahead and prove me wrong with the type of information that is verifiable. you cant so you blather on about what ever issue you think I have and think that wins a debate. pay attention in class and take some histroy classes

I was asking a serious question and you still didnt answer it. Have you personally talked to anyone that was there? People and documents are two different things.

I have seen in your other post you quoting conspiracy theories about 9/11 and when I give you a link that explains the physics and science of why and how the towers fell like they did you would still tell people that you didn't understand why the towers fell straight down.

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brmiddleeastnafricara/165.php?nid=&id=&pnt=165&lb=brme

This talks about a bunch of stuff in Iraq but makes the point that only 35% of Iraqis want us gone now. Another 35% says 2 years and 29% say once things get better. I would say that means that most Iraqis don't want us gone now.
your links on 911 never explained anything to someone who doenst believe in fairy tales. speaking of links were is oyur link thats has thedata you just submited? I would like to see that survay


For one thing the link its in my post. Here it is again

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brmiddleeastnafricara/165.php?nid=&id=&pnt=165&lb=brme


That free fall theory doesn't work. The building it too heavy. For example drop a demolition ball and have the resistance be paper. The ball will just rip through the paper and keep going. Also as the towers fell more and more mass was added to the fallnig section so it would become increasingly more difficult for anything to slow it down.

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