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Topic: Hillary challenges Texas' primary/caucus rules
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Fri 02/29/08 09:16 AM
Edited by leahmarie on Fri 02/29/08 09:17 AM
I copied/pasted below from an email I received.



By BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writer
Friday

LAREDO, Texas - Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign has raised the possibility of a challenge to Texas' primary and caucus rules just days before the contest, drawing a warning against legal action from the state's Democratic Party.


Top strategists for Democratic rival Barack Obama said Friday they supported the party's action, suggesting the Clinton campaign was trying to block the reporting of caucus results.

Aides to Clinton said earlier this week they were alarmed at the lack of clarity about many of the caucus rules and expressed their concerns on a conference call with Obama's staff and state party officials. Texas has a two-step voting process, with a primary and then caucuses shortly after the polls close.

Specifically, Clinton aides questioned a provision allowing caucus attendees to vote to move the location if they choose to do so, and whether people who had cast so-called "provisional ballots" in the primary would have their votes counted in the caucus.

They also expressed concern about the automated phone system precinct chairs would use to call in the results of each caucus, saying the party hadn't yet trained anyone to use the system properly.

Clinton political director Guy Cecil said he asked party officials to spell out the rules in memo form and to send them to both campaigns.

"We want to see the results in writing, and we reserve the right to challenge something if we don't believe it reflects something that was discussed on the call," he said, insisting that if there were clear problems with how the caucuses were being run, "you are allowed to say something about it."

Cecil on Friday denied that the campaign planned to sue the party, which will manage roughly 8,700 caucuses Tuesday evening.

"There were no veiled threats of lawsuits of any kind," Cecil said of the conference call.

Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said the Clinton campaign was trying to minimize the results of the caucuses. The former first lady and her team have made clear their unhappiness with caucuses, believing that they cater to the hard-core party activists who tend to support Obama. The Illinois senator has won 13 caucuses so far, while Clinton has won just two.

"This takes it to a new level, which is they don't want the people who are participating in those caucuses to have their results reported in a timely fashion. And I assume that's a very self-serving decision," Plouffe said.

Texas party officials said they believed Cecil was threatening legal action and wrote a letter to him and to Obama senior strategist Steve Hildebrand reflecting that concern.

"If it is true that litigation is imminent between one or both of your campaigns and the Texas Democratic Party, such action could prove to be a tragedy for a reinvigorated democratic process that is involving a record number of participants here in Texas and across the nation," party attorney Chad Dunn wrote. "Litigation regarding the TDP could cripple the momentum of a resurging Texas Democratic Party and ultimately the November 2008 election."

The letter also noted that many of Clinton's senior campaign advisers in Texas had helped to develop the rules governing the state's caucus system. A Texas party official also noted that former President Clinton won the state's caucuses in 1992 and 1996 following the same rules.

Texas has 193 delegates up for grabs Tuesday. Of those delegates, 126 will come from the primary, and 67 from the caucus.

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Associated Press Writer Nedra Pickler in Austin, Texas, contributed to this report.

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What do you guys think? Is Hillary trying to minimize caucus votes so she can grab the super delegates, thereby, winning the nomination to run as Democratic nominee for president?


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Fri 02/29/08 09:17 AM
Billary...??noway

smokin

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Fri 02/29/08 09:21 AM

Billary...??noway

smokin

LOLlaugh

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Fri 02/29/08 09:24 AM
I'll bet that if she were in the lead, this wouldn't be an issue.

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Fri 02/29/08 09:26 AM
She will end the wwar...Along with the whole worldsick sick

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Fri 02/29/08 09:27 AM
Well if she does that she will probably loose to McCain

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Fri 02/29/08 09:27 AM
signs of desperation...drinker



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Fri 02/29/08 09:28 AM
ok hilary complains about everything
the media hates her states hater blah blah blah
if she wasnt losing she wouldnt be doing this duh
i honestly think obama or clinton is going to win the election honestly mccain is sorta pushing them out of the way

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Fri 02/29/08 10:30 AM

I'll bet that if she were in the lead, this wouldn't be an issue.




dave..... oh, of course

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Fri 02/29/08 10:39 AM


I'll bet that if she were in the lead, this wouldn't be an issue.




dave..... oh, of course



That's a very astute observation...bigsmile

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Fri 02/29/08 03:04 PM



I'll bet that if she were in the lead, this wouldn't be an issue.




dave..... oh, of course



That's a very astute observation...bigsmile



I thought so myself. Every once in a while I am a true genius in what I say! laugh laugh

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Fri 02/29/08 03:09 PM
it's very amusing to watch the Hilabeast do a melt down. You think the campaign is dirty now, you ain't seen nothing yet. Watch the feces hit the rotating blades if she looses. laugh

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Sat 03/01/08 03:56 AM

it's very amusing to watch the Hilabeast do a melt down. You think the campaign is dirty now, you ain't seen nothing yet. Watch the feces hit the rotating blades if she looses. laugh



gardenforge......

Did you note that all the negative things said about Obama came from the Hillary side or from those who are for Hillary. Some of them are that Obama not only did drugs in college, but that he sold them. Another gem Bob Kerry, a Hillary supporter, let out was that Obama's middle name is Hussein, the same as Saadam Hussein. Hillary's camp also released the picture of Obama dressed like a Muslim. However, Michelle Obama got back at Hillary. In an address in Ohio either Thursday or Friday, Mrs. Obama told the women that whatever they do, they should not become corporate lawyers or Hedge Fund lawyers. Hillary was a corporate lawyer and her daughter Chelesa is a Hedge Fund lawyer. I am not sure if the Ohio women got it since, according to Rush Limbaugh, who was commenting on this, Ohio ranks real low nation wide in education and in amount of money per year its residents make compared to the rest of the USA.

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Sat 03/01/08 08:20 AM
Leah I saw that. The Hillabeast is roaring like a gored ox and lashing out like the snake haired Hydra she is. Rush is right though Republicans should fight their gag reflex and vote for her to keep her in the race. You ain't seen nothing yet though if she looses on Tuesday you will see an exhibition of dirty politics that hasn't been seen in decades.

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Sat 03/01/08 08:25 AM
The whole two party political system in North America is in the toilet.. its sad and pathetic to watch ANY politician sink to the muddy depths of desperation and then try to come out smelling like a leader...and what are Americans left with to choose from come voting day?...yup you guessed it..."Dumb and Dumber".

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Sat 03/01/08 08:47 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sat 03/01/08 08:49 AM

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Sat 03/01/08 08:48 AM

I would never put McCain in that light. (Dumb and Dumber he isn't)

The Democrats lost when Edwards pulled out.
He was the only Democrat that could possibly have beat the Republicans!

Instead of real concrete change the Dem's voted to make history, (first women, or first black President)
Paying no attention to the issues we face, or the countries needs.

Edwards had a policy pre-published listing what he would do.
Promises in print.
All the other two clowns do is cry the word Change, and never even say how they propose to change things.

Hillary is a proven corporate puppet, and the corporations involvement in the politics of our country, is why our jobs are being outsource. Our country reduced to one based on the service industries.

I'm afraid that country will have to wait 4 more years for change.
In the meantime all we can do is hold on to what we have.

I'm voting for McCain, with the other two I feel the country will suffer irreversible damage.

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Sat 03/01/08 07:28 PM
I have to admit that our political system is less than desirable, but it is still a better system than a lot of the world enjoys. The wonderful thing is that we survive and prosper in spite of it. laugh

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Sun 03/02/08 04:22 AM

Leah I saw that. The Hillabeast is roaring like a gored ox and lashing out like the snake haired Hydra she is. Rush is right though Republicans should fight their gag reflex and vote for her to keep her in the race. You ain't seen nothing yet though if she looses on Tuesday you will see an exhibition of dirty politics that hasn't been seen in decades.




Dirty politics ..... the woman has pimped her daughter out to win a superdelegate vote. Did you hear about that one? It seems that there is this 21-year old college student who somehow or other got elected as a superdelegate when he was 17 years old. At any event, Hillary and Bill set the guy up with a date with Chelesea for the purpose of Chelesea convincing the guy to vote for Hillary. One of the news outlets broke the story. The guy who broke the story used the term "pimped her daughter out," and was suspended without pay from his job for a week. The 21-year old superdelegate is not voting for Hillary. Can you believe something like this? I was stunned; I was under the impression that the Clintons were out to protect their daughter.

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Sun 03/02/08 04:25 AM

Leah I saw that. The Hillabeast is roaring like a gored ox and lashing out like the snake haired Hydra she is. Rush is right though Republicans should fight their gag reflex and vote for her to keep her in the race. You ain't seen nothing yet though if she looses on Tuesday you will see an exhibition of dirty politics that hasn't been seen in decades.



I heard/saw that interview with Rush wherein he urged Republicans to vote for Hillary in order to keep her in the race. It is a good idea because this way Obama and Hillary are using up their money fighting each other. Additionally, the way they are attacking each other, they could very well destroy the Democratic Party since Hillary doesn't care about the Party. All she wants is to be elected, and Bill is going along with her.

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