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Topic: Halliburton and Kellogg, Brown & Root
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Fri 02/29/08 01:37 PM
Kellogg, Brown & Root (KBR): Until April 2007 a subsidiary of Halliburton, KBR garnered $20.1 billion in Iraq contracts from the Bush administration. The company reported a $2.3 billion profit in 2006. According to a Center for Public Integrity investigation, KBR was the single biggest corporate winner from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. In terms of the dollar value of its Iraq contracts, it received nine times as much as the second largest Iraq contractor, DynCorp.

Halliburton: In 2002, Halliburton was number 37 on the Pentagon's list of top 100 contractors with $500 million in contracts. By 2006, it was number six, with $6.1 billion in contracts, an increase of more than 1,000%.

Brookings Institution Senior Fellow Peter W. Singer puts this in context, noting in a September 2007 policy paper that "the amount paid to Halliburton-KBR for just that period is roughly three times what the U.S. government paid to fight the entire 1991 Persian Gulf War. When putting other wars into current dollar amounts, the U.S. government paid Halliburton about $7 billion more than it cost the United States to fight the American Revolution, the War of 1812, the Mexican-American War, and the Spanish American War combined."
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/13146

azrae1l's photo
Fri 02/29/08 01:51 PM
do you actually do any of your own thinking or just cut and paste what you see from other people that sounds smart?

madisonman's photo
Fri 02/29/08 01:53 PM

do you actually do any of your own thinking or just cut and paste what you see from other people that sounds smart?
As our hero Joe Friday would say"just the facts M'am"drinker

Troubled's photo
Fri 02/29/08 02:38 PM
you're beginning to sound like charlie browns teacher dude.

madisonman's photo
Fri 02/29/08 03:52 PM
I wonder how many schools could be be built with that kind of money.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Fri 02/29/08 04:18 PM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Fri 02/29/08 04:19 PM

Kellogg, Brown & Root (KBR): Until April 2007 a subsidiary of Halliburton, KBR garnered $20.1 billion in Iraq contracts from the Bush administration. The company reported a $2.3 billion profit in 2006. According to a Center for Public Integrity investigation, KBR was the single biggest corporate winner from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. In terms of the dollar value of its Iraq contracts, it received nine times as much as the second largest Iraq contractor, DynCorp.

Halliburton: In 2002, Halliburton was number 37 on the Pentagon's list of top 100 contractors with $500 million in contracts. By 2006, it was number six, with $6.1 billion in contracts, an increase of more than 1,000%.

Brookings Institution Senior Fellow Peter W. Singer puts this in context, noting in a September 2007 policy paper that "the amount paid to Halliburton-KBR for just that period is roughly three times what the U.S. government paid to fight the entire 1991 Persian Gulf War. When putting other wars into current dollar amounts, the U.S. government paid Halliburton about $7 billion more than it cost the United States to fight the American Revolution, the War of 1812, the Mexican-American War, and the Spanish American War combined."
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/13146




ummm....INFLATION!!! ever heard of it? During these conflicts the average family income was like $800 a year....

Drivinmenutz's photo
Fri 02/29/08 04:20 PM
Would be nice to have education... I am all about schools, but imediate threats come before future ones

no photo
Fri 02/29/08 04:35 PM

Would be nice to have education... I am all about schools, but imediate threats come before future ones


but don't you see....these people think there are no threats in the world that can harm them...those terrorists in Iraq used to wear 3 piece suits and worked on Wall Street downtown Baghdad. Soon as the US stops there illegal war and illegal occupation of Iraq against Iraq's wishes Wall Street will reopen, suits will be dry cleaned and all will be back to normal ....drinker

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Fri 02/29/08 04:50 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=A9CxT48jIgI

madisonman's photo
Fri 02/29/08 04:51 PM


Would be nice to have education... I am all about schools, but imediate threats come before future ones


but don't you see....these people think there are no threats in the world that can harm them...those terrorists in Iraq used to wear 3 piece suits and worked on Wall Street downtown Baghdad. Soon as the US stops there illegal war and illegal occupation of Iraq against Iraq's wishes Wall Street will reopen, suits will be dry cleaned and all will be back to normal ....drinker
I hardly call people fighting an occupation in there own country a terrorist

no photo
Fri 02/29/08 05:02 PM
Edited by rambill79 on Fri 02/29/08 05:04 PM
ive walked you all through this before... but ill recap. Halliburton is THE ONLY COMPANY OF ITS KIND WITH THE MANPOWER AND ASSETS IN THEATRE. THIS IS WHY THEY GET CONTRACTS. if you really think you can do the job on time, and cheaper, bid against them

ignorance of the facts, and research using flawed data, inevetely lead to false conclusions.


besides, since when is making a profit illegal or immoral?

smo's photo
Fri 02/29/08 05:07 PM
I hear that Clintons are getting paid real well now for helping get all these no bid contracts out to their friends.

madisonman's photo
Fri 02/29/08 05:08 PM

ive walked you all through this before... but ill recap. Halliburton is THE ONLY COMPANY OF ITS KIND WITH THE MANPOWER AND ASSETS IN THEATRE. THIS IS WHY THEY GET CONTRACTS. if you really think you can do the job on time, and cheaper, bid against them or shut the %#@! up.

ignorance of the facts, and research using flawed data, inevetely lead to false conclusions.


besides, liberal/commie comerades, since when is making a profit illegal or immoral?
Many of the jobs being done by hallibruton used to be done by our men in uniform, for some weird reasone the military though they could save money by haveing contractors do it. I urge anyone ith an interest to view this short video it is part one of ten. If you have a problemb with facts let talk about them but leave the name calling at the door http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szrrbLQpE9s

no photo
Fri 02/29/08 05:32 PM
^^^^^...you must have missed this....

ive walked you all through this before... but ill recap. Halliburton is THE ONLY COMPANY OF ITS KIND WITH THE MANPOWER AND ASSETS IN THEATRE. THIS IS WHY THEY GET CONTRACTS. if you really think you can do the job on time, and cheaper, bid against them or shut the %#@! up.

madisonman's photo
Fri 02/29/08 05:49 PM

^^^^^...you must have missed this....

ive walked you all through this before... but ill recap. Halliburton is THE ONLY COMPANY OF ITS KIND WITH THE MANPOWER AND ASSETS IN THEATRE. THIS IS WHY THEY GET CONTRACTS. if you really think you can do the job on time, and cheaper, bid against them or shut the %#@! up.

sorry you must have missed this................................http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szrrbLQpE9s

toastedoranges's photo
Fri 02/29/08 06:15 PM
ummm....INFLATION!!! ever heard of it? During these conflicts the average family income was like $800 a year....


THAT is your answer? jeeze...are you even trying?

Many of the jobs being done by hallibruton used to be done by our men in uniform, for some weird reasone the military though they could save money by haveing contractors do it. I urge anyone ith an interest to view this short video it is part one of ten. If you have a problemb with facts let talk about them but leave the name calling at the door http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szrrbLQpE9s


pretty much it. military people don't do any of those jobs anymore. there are TONS of contractors doing the jobs and getting paid mulitple times what our service men and women do. it's utter crap

madisonman's photo
Fri 02/29/08 07:02 PM

ummm....INFLATION!!! ever heard of it? During these conflicts the average family income was like $800 a year....


THAT is your answer? jeeze...are you even trying?

Many of the jobs being done by hallibruton used to be done by our men in uniform, for some weird reasone the military though they could save money by haveing contractors do it. I urge anyone ith an interest to view this short video it is part one of ten. If you have a problemb with facts let talk about them but leave the name calling at the door http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szrrbLQpE9s


pretty much it. military people don't do any of those jobs anymore. there are TONS of contractors doing the jobs and getting paid mulitple times what our service men and women do. it's utter crap
flowerforyou

Lindyy's photo
Fri 02/29/08 07:49 PM

Kellogg, Brown & Root (KBR): Until April 2007 a subsidiary of Halliburton, KBR garnered $20.1 billion in Iraq contracts from the Bush administration. The company reported a $2.3 billion profit in 2006. According to a Center for Public Integrity investigation, KBR was the single biggest corporate winner from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. In terms of the dollar value of its Iraq contracts, it received nine times as much as the second largest Iraq contractor, DynCorp.

Halliburton: In 2002, Halliburton was number 37 on the Pentagon's list of top 100 contractors with $500 million in contracts. By 2006, it was number six, with $6.1 billion in contracts, an increase of more than 1,000%.

Brookings Institution Senior Fellow Peter W. Singer puts this in context, noting in a September 2007 policy paper that "the amount paid to Halliburton-KBR for just that period is roughly three times what the U.S. government paid to fight the entire 1991 Persian Gulf War. When putting other wars into current dollar amounts, the U.S. government paid Halliburton about $7 billion more than it cost the United States to fight the American Revolution, the War of 1812, the Mexican-American War, and the Spanish American War combined."
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/13146





Lindyy says:

AND, your point being??

When I worked for the managing partner of a mid sized law firm here in PGH., he represented Halliburton here in the USDC Western PA. Darn good company! (He did architect and engineers design liability, products liability, construction law.)

He ALWAYS got them released from the law suit - people always trying to sue the big companies to get rich quick, greedy, try to get rich quick low lifes, but the greed mongers always lost because of non merit claims. HAHA.laugh laugh

So, stuff it.

Lindyy
Proud to have lent a helping hand to Halliburton.
:heart: :heart: :heart:

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Sat 03/01/08 12:23 PM

Many of the jobs being done by hallibruton used to be done by our men in uniform, for some weird reasone the military though they could save money by haveing contractors do it. I urge anyone ith an interest to view this short video it is part one of ten. If you have a problemb with facts let talk about them but leave the name calling at the door http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szrrbLQpE9s


umm its called putting more soldiers in the fight, and no thyre not getting paid butt loads more than the servicemen and women, truth be told (as always it should be) most of the contractors are migrant workers hired from places all over the world who in FACT work cheaper doing the same job than it would be to have a soldier doing it.
But hey what do I know, Ive only worked with them before, you havent.

haliburton turned a profit, yeah, thats what they do, they have a shareholders to anwwer to jst like any other compay.

Oh wait your post says they grew, really a business grew, wow! chaulkthat one up to shock.

and really fighting all those other wars and the cost of them combind in money..... lets see, there is new technology to prevent people from getting dead, they didnt have that expense back then, but I will tell you what they paid more for back then than we do now,,,,,BODIES. missed seeing that in your comparison tho chuckles.


"Id hardly call people fighting an occupation in their country terrorist" what do you know? you think we're fighting just iraqi people pissed we're in their country, come on man get real, multiple countries and/or terror groups have sent thousands of their little jihady party boys to come and meet up with allah.

thats pretty much all i got to say about thatindifferent

no photo
Sat 03/01/08 12:34 PM
madman, how much would you want to be paid if you were working half way around the world in a war zone? i just turned down 600.00/ day plus expenses to work in Iraq..... I FIGGURE IF IM DEAD IT IS IRELLAVENT WHAT THE WAGE WAS.

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