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Topic: The Fuel That Fed The Subprime Meltdown
Lynann's photo
Fri 09/26/08 10:46 AM
For all of us who are struggling to understand the complex causes and possiable solutions to the current financial crisis there's an excellent article from Forbes at: http://www.investopedia.com/articles/07/subprime-overview.asp?viewall=1

The article is full of links that will help the reader understand the language and background of the crisis.

For those of you who just want to call names and point fingers...don't bother to read it. It would be wasted on you anyway.

warmachine's photo
Fri 09/26/08 10:50 AM
That was a good read!

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Fri 09/26/08 10:54 AM
I agree...Keep up the good work Lynan..Helped me understand it atleast alittle better.flowerforyou

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Fri 09/26/08 11:00 AM
now that is a good article. I may have to read it a couple of times haha

FINALLY somebody posted something that is not defined solely in terms of partisan hatred

there is soooo much more going on in the world than
"I hate George Bush" or "liberals suck"

warmachine's photo
Fri 09/26/08 11:04 AM

now that is a good article. I may have to read it a couple of times haha

FINALLY somebody posted something that is not defined solely in terms of partisan hatred

there is soooo much more going on in the world than
"I hate George Bush" or "liberals suck"



I agree: Americans are in trouble. The Republic is in danger.

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Fri 09/26/08 11:40 AM
I agree

it's in danger of imploding under it's own weight

because the people are fat and lazy and spoiled and living off their own fat

we don't produce anything anymore all we do is borrow and live a lavish lifestyle fueled by TV

and instead of actually getting off our asses and DOING anything we whine and blame everyone but ourselves

what is the big new Wonder of the World? it's NOT American

maybe the Three Gorges Dam (China) or the new Supercollider, but it's NOT American

Lynann's photo
Fri 09/26/08 12:39 PM
Just bumping the thread in hopes more people read it haha

franshade's photo
Fri 09/26/08 12:45 PM
Great and very informative link - thank Lynn

s1owhand's photo
Fri 09/26/08 12:45 PM
Edited by s1owhand on Fri 09/26/08 01:08 PM
it is the savings and loan scandal all over again...
with about 5 times the money at stake.

remember Michael Milken?

i suggest the book
"Licensce to Steal: The Untold Story of Michael Milken and the Conspiracy to Bilk the Nation" by Ben Stein

absolutely a great great book. substitute the phrase
subprime mortgage backed securities for "junk bonds"
and well there is a certain similarity.

laugh

but also there is an excellent article here in the
wiki...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subprime_mortgage_crisis

Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac, Bear Stearns, Lehman, etc...
play the part of the S&Ls




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Fri 09/26/08 12:46 PM
Edited by quiet_2008 on Fri 09/26/08 12:47 PM
yeah but there is no Conservative/Liberal blame dirt slinging so this thread will prolly die

The article pretty much squares with how I see the problem too

I still think that we should actually let it all collapse and endure the recession rather than just defray it till later with loans against the deficit




s1owhand's photo
Fri 09/26/08 12:58 PM
we won't find out for years how
bad it is. but i see no reason why
we shouldn't go after all the billions
of dollars paid out over the last few
years to those who made money off of
gaming the system...

go go fbi! - find the fraud, make them
pay - yes...financially. help to defray
the rising cost to the public.

drinker

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Fri 09/26/08 01:23 PM
so it is all to be blamed on the terrorists that caused 9-11

interesting

maybe a little blame should be put on those that think because their neighbor can afford something that they are entitled to the same things

Lynann's photo
Fri 09/26/08 03:28 PM
Another bump for those who are just coming home from work.

Information Please! hehe

Giocamo's photo
Fri 09/26/08 04:36 PM
it's pretty funny how you found an article that has no mention of B. Clintons role in this mess, even though he and anyone who hasn't been sleeping for the last 14 years...can plainly see that social engineering was a huge percentage of what went wrong here...when you interfere with the markets...you pay the price...just google bill clinton sub-prime loans...and...you'll see where the bulk of this problem stems from...the republicans controled congress back then...but not until Jan 1995...billy boy got this whole mess through in '94...look it up !

Lynann's photo
Fri 09/26/08 04:57 PM
I posted an article that explains the terms and mechanisms that are in play in the current financial crisis.

Sorry I didn't go for partisan hackery! It plays so much better here doesn't it?


warmachine's photo
Fri 09/26/08 08:45 PM

it is the savings and loan scandal all over again...
with about 5 times the money at stake.

remember Michael Milken?

i suggest the book
"Licensce to Steal: The Untold Story of Michael Milken and the Conspiracy to Bilk the Nation" by Ben Stein

absolutely a great great book. substitute the phrase
subprime mortgage backed securities for "junk bonds"
and well there is a certain similarity.

laugh

but also there is an excellent article here in the
wiki...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subprime_mortgage_crisis

Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac, Bear Stearns, Lehman, etc...
play the part of the S&Ls






Hmmm... Neil Bush?

warmachine's photo
Fri 09/26/08 08:46 PM

yeah but there is no Conservative/Liberal blame dirt slinging so this thread will prolly die

The article pretty much squares with how I see the problem too

I still think that we should actually let it all collapse and endure the recession rather than just defray it till later with loans against the deficit






I totally agree, how many times can you prop up a weakened structure before it falls anyway?

I know how to live from paycheck to paycheck and on even less than that.

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Fri 09/26/08 08:49 PM
this bailout might not even work

talldub's photo
Fri 09/26/08 08:51 PM


maybe a little blame should be put on those that think because their neighbor can afford something that they are entitled to the same things


Maybe a little blame could fall on the complete avarice and greed of the banks?

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Fri 09/26/08 08:51 PM
If America is not growing, it is dying. that's already been proven by the Romans, Persians, and the British

and we are doing a crappy job of keeping up with India and China

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