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Section 1 of Article 2 of the U.S. Constitution states that a President must:
be a natural born citizen of the united States be at least 35 years old have lived in the U.S. for at least 14 years Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:" Anyone born inside the United States * Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S. Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21 Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time) A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S. Those born outside the US can still be eligible for the presidency under certain conditions. |
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well there goes my only reason to support this government
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Thu 12/03/09 06:19 PM
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It states natural born citizen. A term well defined in the constitution. Article 2, section 1 of the Constitution states, "No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of president; neither shall any person be eligible who shall not attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United Satates." The addition of a grandfather clause in this paragraph says a lot as to the meaning of natural born. The first thing it says is that being born in the US is not enough to be natural born, otherwise the grandfather clause would not be necessary. The writers and delegates, having been born in the US, wanted to be eligible for the presidency, but most were the children of British subjects. Knowing that that eliminated them from being natural born and, thus, from eligibility, they included the grandfather clause which expired when the last person alive at the time of the ratification of the Constitution died. So, being a native born citizen is not the same as being natural born. If it were the framers would not have included the clause. When asked to define natural born citizen, John Bingham, the author of the 14th ammendment which extended the bill of rights to former slaves, stated, "Any human born to parents who are US citizens and are under no other jurisdiction or authority." The Naturalization Act of 1790, also passed by this congress, declared "And the children of citizens of the US shall be considered as natural born, provided that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been a resident of the US." Neither of these definitions, one from US law, mentions birthplace, only the parents' citizenship. http://larrymwalkerjr.blogspot.com/2009/03/true-definition-of-natural-born-citizen.html It is not the same as a US citizen! Much different. |
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Thu 12/03/09 06:18 PM
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This does seem to deserve further scrutiny.
Hmmm,,,, |
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You're wrong Msharmony, It states natural born citizen. A term well defined in the constitution. Article 2, section 1 of the Constitution states, "No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of president; neither shall any person be eligible who shall not attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United Satates." The addition of a grandfather clause in this paragraph says a lot as to the meaning of natural born. The first thing it says is that being born in the US is not enough to be natural born, otherwise the grandfather clause would not be necessary. The writers and delegates, having been born in the US, wanted to be eligible for the presidency, but most were the children of British subjects. Knowing that that eliminated them from being natural born and, thus, from eligibility, they included the grandfather clause which expired when the last person alive at the time of the ratification of the Constitution died. So, being a native born citizen is not the same as being natural born. If it were the framers would not have included the clause. When asked to define natural born citizen, John Bingham, the author of the 14th ammendment which extended the bill of rights to former slaves, stated, "Any human born to parents who are US citizens and are under no other jurisdiction or authority." The Naturalization Act of 1790, also passed by this congress, declared "And the children of citizens of the US shall be considered as natural born, provided that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been a resident of the US." Neither of these definitions, one from US law, mentions birthplace, only the parents' citizenship. http://larrymwalkerjr.blogspot.com/2009/03/true-definition-of-natural-born-citizen.html It is not the same as a US citizen! Much different. but the constitution actually didnt DEFINE natural born citizen, that is why there is so much room for interpretation |
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So....what is going on now...why is this post put up?
I would preferably go with a Native American president with no ties to any parties, beside being a member of a tribe. |
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You're including U.S. territories too, right, like the Virgin Islands, Guam, Panama, and Puerto Rico? John McCain was born in Panama which was formerly a U.S. territory.
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You're including U.S. territories too, right, like the Virgin Islands, Guam, Panama, and Puerto Rico? John McCain was born in Panama which was formerly a U.S. territory. To parents that were both us citizens. Some posts here smack of birther consperacies... Who cares? Water under the bridge. That egg is broke... etc. |
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You're including U.S. territories too, right, like the Virgin Islands, Guam, Panama, and Puerto Rico? John McCain was born in Panama which was formerly a U.S. territory. To parents that were both us citizens. Some posts here smack of birther consperacies... Who cares? Water under the bridge. That egg is broke... etc. What kind of political discussion would that be? Although I fully agree with you, but people still want to make a splash of the water so to speak... |
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You're including U.S. territories too, right, like the Virgin Islands, Guam, Panama, and Puerto Rico? John McCain was born in Panama which was formerly a U.S. territory. To parents that were both us citizens. Some posts here smack of birther consperacies... Who cares? Water under the bridge. That egg is broke... etc. also,,,Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national the point was just that the definition was left open to interpretation because it was never actually defined specifically in the constitution,,i posted this a while back but i think it was just revisited because not much else was going on |
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It states natural born citizen. A term well defined in the constitution. where in the constitution is the term "natural born citizen" defined? |
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Is there anybody running around on the forums, posting that Obama is not a natural born citizen?
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