so ummmmmm who is going to make the bad guys register their guns?

Hey drivin

so ummmmmm who is going to make the bad guys register their guns?

Hey drivin

since no one (other than drivenmenutz) seems to have read the post on why the second amendment was put into the bill of rights

maybe you should read the early history of hitlers germany step one you must register your guns then a time thereafter he sends the ss to confiscate said registered guns

an unarmed population is defenseless against an oppressive govt

if a govt has no plans on becoming oppressive they need not register guns.....those committing felonies do not register their guns

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

this is why the second amendment was added and is supposed to be inalienable

it has nothing to do with need for hunting unless you call going after corrupt govt officials hunting

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IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,

deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

— That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,

laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world

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****WHO IS GOING TO HOLD THE GOVT ACOUNTABL AND ENFORCE THE DECALRATION OF INDEPENDANCE

ENTER THE 2ND AMMENDMENT

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U.S. Constitution: Second Amendment

Second Amendment - Bearing Arms

Amendment Text | Annotations

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

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DEFINITIONS

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Main Entry: in•fringe
Pronunciation: in-'frinj
Function: verb
Inflected Forms: in•fringed; in•fring•ing
Etymology: Medieval Latin infringere, from Latin, to break, crush, from in- in + frangere to break
transitive verb : to encroach upon in a way that violates law or the rights of another <the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed —U.S. Constitution amendment II>; especially : to violate a holder's rights under (a copyright, patent, trademark, or trade name) intransitive verb : ENCROACH —in•fring•er noun
Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law, © 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc.

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to encroach upon in a way that violates law or the rights of another

en•croach (n-krch)
intr.v. en•croached, en•croach•ing, en•croach•es
1. To take another's possessions or rights gradually or stealthily: encroach on a neighbor's land.
2. To advance beyond proper or former limits: desert encroaching upon grassland.
3. Football To commit encroachment.

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peo•ple (ppl)
n. pl. people
1. Humans considered as a group or in indefinite numbers: People were dancing in the street. I met all sorts of people.
2. A body of persons living in the same country under one national government; a nationality.
3. pl. peo•ples A body of persons sharing a common religion, culture, language, or inherited condition of life.
4. Persons with regard to their residence, class, profession, or group: city people.
5. The mass of ordinary persons; the populace. Used with the: "those who fear and distrust the people, and wish to draw all powers from them into the hands of the higher classes" Thomas Jefferson.
6. The citizens of a political unit, such as a nation or state; the electorate. Used with the.
7. Persons subordinate to or loyal to a ruler, superior, or employer: The queen showed great compassion for her people.
8. Family, relatives, or ancestors.
9. Informal Animals or other beings distinct from humans: Rabbits and squirrels are the furry little people of the woods

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/people

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SO IF THE GOVT INFRINGES (see DEFINITIONS)

THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE (SEE DEFINITIONS)

TO BEAR ARMS

WHO IS GOING TOENFORCE THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE
WHEN THE GOVT BEGINS ABUSING THEIR POWERS

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deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed

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AND BEGIN RESTRICTING THE

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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men

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WHO WILL STEP IN AND REMOVE THE

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That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government

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AND INSTITUTE THE NEW GOVT

DO YOU THINK THE GOVT IS GOING TO DO IT

IT IS UP TO THE PEOPLE

AND TO DO SO THE PEOPLE NEED TO BE ARMED

AN UNARMED PEOPLE ARE SLAVE TO THOSE IN POWER

AND THE GOVT ARE THE MASTERS

WHICH IS NOT WHAT IS WRITTEN IN

THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDANCE

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deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,
people
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Definition of people by TheFreeDictionary.com

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i came up with this along time ago when this site had another name

don't remember seeing it anywhere else nor hearing anyone using it

this really need to get out there to as many as possible

it is a shame the nra and those with money don't use this argument

since no one (other than drivenmenutz) seems to have read the post on why the second amendment was put into the bill of rights

maybe you should read the early history of hitlers germany step one you must register your guns then a time thereafter he sends the ss to confiscate said registered guns

an unarmed population is defenseless against an oppressive govt

if a govt has no plans on becoming oppressive they need not register guns.....those committing felonies do not register their guns

They don't; they just steal them from good citizens.

since no one (other than drivenmenutz) seems to have read the post on why the second amendment was put into the bill of rights

maybe you should read the early history of hitlers germany step one you must register your guns then a time thereafter he sends the ss to confiscate said registered guns

an unarmed population is defenseless against an oppressive govt

if a govt has no plans on becoming oppressive they need not register guns.....those committing felonies do not register their guns

ya mean this?

Boy, im starting to get deja vu here. Good to see you both Adj4u and Yellowrose.

drivin...I agree. Isn't the president's family protected by guns? hmmmmmmmm

I know right? IF there is no fear of our pea-shooters why are his bodyguards armed? If the mere presence of a firearm makes "everyone" less safe, why shouldn't the man they spend millions upon millions of taxpayer dollars protecting follow this advice?

If Obozo tries to rule by executive order banning the rights of the people and infringing on their 2nd amendment rights as he has all our others...., he and the rest of his brown shirts better have "bug out" bags of their own packed!

Think tar and feathers will match their shoes and bags?

If Obama signs an order to ban guns or confiscate them, I guess we can just arrest him for TREASON.

RIGHT???

Actually, (i am playing from memory of debates years ago), when i looked up crime statistics from their .gov website (not one connected to any debates) there was very little, if any change in crime. It went up some years, but down others, really only fluctuating in single digit numbers. These fluctuations could be attributed to anything. I have discovered, when trying to analyze things like this from an unbiased standpoint, gun control has very little, if any effect, on violent crime. Take a look at Mexico where guns are illegal, and their homicide rate. Now take a look at Switzerland who owns more guns per capita than the U.S. (and their guns are real assault rifles, meaning full auto, unlike ours). These "exceptions" lead me to believe my prior hypothesis of guns having little/no impact on crime itself. There are other factors here that we are not looking at.

Again, sad, but the population is caught up in a huge knee-jerk reaction instead of seeking out real solutions to the problem of violence.

The fact of the matter that the numbers are down, not up despite the population increases, as previously suggested in the conversation (see above). The NRA are circulating incorrect figures in order to further the agenda.