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Wed 04/18/07 10:21 AM
well where are the pictures of the Boeing 757 that this government said
hit it. Just show me the pictures, esp. the engines and landing gear,
they dont melt.

boxcutters......

like I said, war vet pilots dont give up 757s to kids with box cutters.

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Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, U.S. Army Reserve – Commander of Special
Troops Battalion, 9th Theater Support Command. Former Chief of the
Army’s Controlled HUMINT (Human Intelligence) Program, overseeing Army
Intelligence and Security Command’s global controlled HUMINT efforts. A
former member of the Able Danger data mining program that targeted Al
Qaeda’s global structure. Awarded the Bronze Star for bravery. Fellow,
Center for Advanced Defense Studies. 23-year military intelligence
career.

Testimony before the House Armed Services Committee 2/15/06: Regarding
the Able Danger project - “... basic law enforcement investigative
techniques, with 21st Century data mining and analytical tools ...
resulted in the establishment of a new form of intelligence collection –
and the identification of Mohammed Atta and several other of the 9-11
terrorists as having links to Al Qaeda leadership a full year in advance
of the attacks. ...

After contact by two separate members of the ABLE DANGER team, … the
9-11 [Commission] staff refused to perform any in-depth review or
investigation of the issues that were identified to them. … It was their
job to do a thorough investigation of these claims – to not simply
dismiss them based on what many now believe was a “preconceived”
conclusion to the 9-11 story they wished to tell. … I consider this a
failure of the 9-11 staff – a failure that the 9-11 Commissioners
themselves were victimized by – and continue to have perpetrated on them
by the staff as is evidenced by their recent, groundless conclusion that
ABLE DANGER’s findings were “urban legend”. http://www.abledan


Editor's note: The 9/11 Commission Report asserts that only three of the
alleged hijackers were known to U.S. intelligence agencies prior to
9/11; Nawaf al-Hazmi, Salem al-Hazmi, and Khalid al-Mihdar. There is no
mention in the Report that the names and photographs of alleged hijacker
Marwan al-Shehhi and alleged ring-leader Mohamed Atta had been
identified by the Department of Defense antiterrorist program known as
Able Danger more than a year prior to 9/11 and that they were known to
be affiliates of al-Qaida. Able Danger also identified Nawaf al-Hazmi
and Khalid al-Mihdar. http://www.foxnews.com. See also Rep. Curt
Weldon , Louis Freeh, Capt. Scott J. Phillpott , Major Erik Kleinsmith,
and James D. Smith.


Bio: http://www.c4ads.org/anthony.shaffer

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Wed 04/18/07 10:10 AM
Ive allready explained that there is a reward of 1 million if you can
prove the towers came down like the government said it did, since your
up to speed go for it.


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Barbara Honegger, MS – Senior Military Affairs Journalist at the Naval
Postgraduate School, the U.S. Navy’s advanced science, technology and
national security affairs university (1995 - present). White House
Policy Analyst and Special Assistant to the Assistant to President
Ronald Reagan (1981 - 1983).

Essay 9/6/06: "The US military, not al Qaeda, had the sustained access
weeks before 9/11 to also plant controlled demolition charges throughout
the superstructures of WTC 1 and WTC 2, and in WTC 7, which brought down
all three buildings on 9/11. ...

A US military plane, not one piloted by al Qaeda, performed the highly
skilled, high−speed 270−degree dive towards the Pentagon that Air
Traffic Controllers on 9/11 were sure was a military plane as they
watched it on their screens. Only a military aircraft, not a civilian
plane flown by al Qaeda, would have given off the "Friendly" signal
needed to disable the Pentagon’s anti−aircraft missile batteries as it
approached the building.

Only the US military, not al Qaeda, had the ability to break all of its
Standard Operating Procedures to paralyze its own emergency response
system." http://blog.lege

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Wed 04/18/07 10:05 AM
Is that the link your gonna use to get the million dollars with?

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Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and
NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers
Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained
in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike
Missile Battery Control Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area.
Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine
(jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior
Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years).
Private pilot.

Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine
engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering
company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature
alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be
completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire.
Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines,
particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11,
those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical
Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private
pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all
commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate
from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop
communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck,
perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon
right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small
slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot
in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not
change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."

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Wed 04/18/07 10:03 AM
Whats the matter with posting credible people who have experience in
this area saying this governments lying.


and its not the same post, they are all different.

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Capt. Russ Wittenberg, U.S. Air Force – Former Air Force fighter pilot
with over 100 combat missions. Commercial pilot for Pan Am and United
Airlines for 35 years, flying 707, 720, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, and 777
’s. Had previously flown the actual two United Airlines airplanes that
were hijacked on 9/11 (Flight 93, which impacted in Pennsylvania, and
Flight 175, the second plane to hit the WTC).

Article 7/17/05: "The government story they handed us about 9/11 is
total B.S. plain and simple." … Wittenberg convincingly argued there was
absolutely no possibility that Flight 77 could have "descended 7,000
feet in two minutes, all the while performing a steep 270 degree banked
turn before crashing into the Pentagon's first floor wall without
touching the lawn."…

"For a guy to just jump into the ****pit and fly like an ace is
impossible - there is not one chance in a thousand," said Wittenberg,
recalling that when he made the jump from Boeing 727's to the highly
sophisticated computerized characteristics of the 737's through 767's it
took him considerable time to feel comfortable flying."
http://www.arcticbeacon.com


Audio Interview 9/16/04: Regarding Flight 77, which allegedly hit the
Pentagon. "The airplane could not have flown at those speeds which they
said it did without going into what they call a high speed stall. The
airplane won’t go that fast if you start pulling those high G maneuvers
at those bank angles. … To expect this alleged airplane to run these
maneuvers with a total amateur at the controls is simply ludicrous...

It’s roughly a 100 ton airplane. And an airplane that weighs 100 tons
all assembled is still going to have 100 tons of disassembled trash and
parts after it hits a building. There was no wreckage from a 757 at the
Pentagon. … The vehicle that hit the Pentagon was not Flight 77. We
think, as you may have heard before, it was a cruise missile."
http://911underground.com


Editor's note: For more information on the impact at the Pentagon, see
General Stubblebine, Colonel Nelson, Lt. Col. Kwiatkowski, Major Rokke,
and Steve DeChiaro.


Member: Pilots for 9/11 Truth Association Statement: "Pilots for 9/11
Truth is an organization of aviation professionals and pilots throughout
the globe that have gathered together for one purpose. We are committed
to seeking the truth surrounding the events of the 11th of September
2001. Our main focus concentrates on the four flights, maneuvers
performed and the reported pilots. We do not offer theory or point
blame. However, we are focused on determining the truth of that fateful
day since the United States Government doesn't seem to be very
forthcoming with answers."

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Wed 04/18/07 10:00 AM
There is no evidence that a Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon.

If you have some lets look at it.

and dont you want the million dollars?


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Major Douglas Rokke, PhD, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Director U.S. Army
Depleted Uranium Project. 30-year Army career.

Article 8/19/05: Regarding the impact at the Pentagon on 9/11/2001 "When
you look at the whole thing, especially the crash site void of airplane
parts, the size of the hole left in the building and the fact the
projectile's impact penetrated numerous concrete walls, it looks like
the work of a missile. And when you look at the damage, it was
obviously a missile." http://www.rense.com


Editor's note: For more information on the impact at the Pentagon, see
General Stubblebine, Colonel Nelson, Lt. Col. Kwiatkowski, Capt.
Wittenberg, and Steve DeChiaro.

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Wed 04/18/07 09:55 AM
again, war vet pilots dont give up Boeing 757s to kids with box cutters.


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Commander Ted Muga, U.S. Navy (ret) – Retired Naval aviator (Grumman E-1
and E-2). Retired Pan-Am commercial airline pilot (Boeing 707 and 727).

Member: Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice Association Statement:
"Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice is a non-partisan organization
consisting of independent researchers and activists engaged in
uncovering the true nature of the September 11, 2001 attacks."


Member: Pilots for 9/11 Truth Association Statement: "Pilots for 9/11
Truth is an organization of aviation professionals and pilots throughout
the globe that have gathered together for one purpose. We are committed
to seeking the truth surrounding the events of the 11th of September
2001. Our main focus concentrates on the four flights, maneuvers
performed and the reported pilots. We do not offer theory or point
blame. However, we are focused on determining the truth of that fateful
day since the United States Government doesn't seem to be very
forthcoming with answers."

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Wed 04/18/07 09:44 AM
lots of people have myspace accounts including war vets.


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Lt. Col. Jeff Latas, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former combat fighter pilot
(F-15E and F-111). Former President, U.S. Air Force Accident
Investigation Board. Also served as Pentagon Weapons Requirement
Officer and as a member of the Pentagon's Quadrennial Defense Review.
Awarded Distinguish Flying Cross for Heroism, four Air Medals, four
Meritorious Service Medals, and nine Aerial Achievement Medals. 20-year
Air Force career. Currently commercial airline pilot.

Member: Pilots for 9/11 Truth Association Statement: "Pilots for 9/11
Truth is an organization of aviation professionals and pilots throughout
the globe that have gathered together for one purpose. We are committed
to seeking the truth surrounding the events of the 11th of September
2001. Our main focus concentrates on the four flights, maneuvers
performed and the reported pilots. We do not offer theory or point
blame. However, we are focused on determining the truth of that fateful
day since the United States Government doesn't seem to be very
forthcoming with answers."

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Wed 04/18/07 09:35 AM
war vets that are pilots dont give up Boeing 757s to kids with
box-cutters.


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Lt. Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Retired U.S. Air Force
fighter pilot (F-111, F-15E, F-16, B-1, F-18, Mig-29, and Suu-22). Flew
combat missions over Iraq. Former instructor at the USAF Fighter
Weapons School and NATO’s Tactical Leadership Program. 20-year Air
Force career.
Statement to this website 3/25/07: "After 4+ years of research since
retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September
11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous
perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government.
It is now time to take our country back.

The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 [610 feet tall, 47 stories, and not hit
by an airplane] shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were
pre-planned. There is simply no way to demolish a 47-story building (on
fire) over a coffee break. It is also impossible to report the
building’s collapse before it happened, as BBC News did, unless it was
pre-planned. Further damning evidence is Larry Silverstein's video
taped confession in which he states "they made that decision to pull
[WTC 7] and we watched the building collapse."

We cannot let the pursuit of justice fail. Those of us in the military
took an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United
States against all enemies, foreign and domestic". Just because we have
retired does not make that oath invalid, so it is not just our
responsibility, it is our duty to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11
and bring them to justice, no matter how hard it is, how long it takes,
or how much we have to suffer to do it.

We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same oath,
and who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right now.
Those of us who joined the military and faithfully executed orders that
were given us had to trust our leaders. The violation and abuse of that
trust is not only heinous, but ultimately the most accurate definition
of treason!"


Member: Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice Association Statement:
"Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice is a non-partisan organization
consisting of independent researchers and activists engaged in
uncovering the true nature of the September 11, 2001 attacks."


Member: Pilots for 9/11 Truth Association Statement: "Pilots for 9/11
Truth is an organization of aviation professionals and pilots throughout
the globe that have gathered together for one purpose. We are committed
to seeking the truth surrounding the events of the 11th of September
2001. Our main focus concentrates on the four flights, maneuvers
performed and the reported pilots. We do not offer theory or point
blame. However, we are focused on determining the truth of that fateful
day since the United States Government doesn't seem to be very
forthcoming with answers."


Website: http://www.myspace.com/supereagle69

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Wed 04/18/07 09:29 AM
however you get off...

but dont you want the million dollars???


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Lt. Col. Shelton F. Lankford, U.S. Marine Corps (ret) – Retired U.S.
Marine Corps fighter pilot with over 300 combat missions flown. 21-year
Marine Corps career.

Letter to the Editor 2/5/07: Regarding 9/11 "Our government has been
hijacked by means of a "new Pearl Harbor" and a lot of otherwise good
and decent people who are gullible enough to think that the first three
steel-framed buildings in history fall down because they have some fires
that the fire fighter on the scene said could be knocked down with a
couple of hoses and through which people walked before they were
photographed looking out the holes where the plane hit . One of these -
bldg 7, [610 feet tall, 47 stories] was never hit by a plane and even
NIST is ashamed to advance a reason for its collapse. And, miracle of
miracles, these three buildings just happened to be leased and insured
by the same guy who is on tape saying they decided to "PULL" the last
one to fall." http://www.michigandaily.com


Statement to this website 2/20/07: "This isn't about party, it isn't
about Bush Bashing. It's about our country, our constitution, and our
future. ...

Your countrymen have been murdered and the more you delve into it the
more it looks as though they were murdered by our government, who used
it as an excuse to murder other people thousands of miles away.

If you ridicule others who have sincere doubts and who know factual
information that directly contradicts the official report and who want
explanations from those who hold the keys to our government, and have
motive, means, and opportunity to pull off a 9/11, but you are too lazy
or fearful, or ... to check into the facts yourself, what does that make
you? Scholars for 9/11 truth have developed reams of scientific data.
Michael Ruppert published an exhaustive account of the case from the
viewpoint of a trained investigator. David Ray Griffin provides a
context for the unanswered or badly answered questions that should nag
at anyone who pretends to love this country.

Are you afraid that you will learn the truth and you can't handle it?
...

Do a little research. Google is a wonderful tool.

What does it all add up to? The Commission was, as was the Warren
Commission before it, a dog and pony show ... " Link to full statement


Member: Pilots for 9/11 Truth Association Statement: "Pilots for 9/11
Truth is an organization of aviation professionals and pilots throughout
the globe that have gathered together for one purpose. We are committed
to seeking the truth surrounding the events of the 11th of September
2001. Our main focus concentrates on the four flights, maneuvers
performed and the reported pilots. We do not offer theory or point
blame. However, we are focused on determining the truth of that fateful
day since the United States Government doesn't seem to be very
forthcoming with answers."

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Wed 04/18/07 09:13 AM
well, I cant really spoon feed you guys, you kind of have to do your own
research, but Ive given you a start.

and hey....dont you want a million dollars???

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Lt. Col. Karen U. Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former
Political-Military Affairs Officer in the Office of the Secretary of
Defense. Also served on the staff of the Director of the National
Security Agency. 20-year Air Force veteran.

Contributor to 9/11 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out
8/23/06: Account of Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, Pentagon employee and
eyewitness to the events at the Pentagon on 9/11. "I believe the
Commission failed to deeply examine the topic at hand, failed to apply
scientific rigor to its assessment of events leading up to and including
9/11, failed to produce a believable and unbiased summary of what
happened, failed to fully examine why it happened, and even failed to
include a set of unanswered questions for future research. ...

It is as a scientist that I have the most trouble with the official
government conspiracy theory, mainly because it does not satisfy the
rules of probability or physics. The collapses of the World Trade
Center buildings clearly violate the laws of probability and physics.
...

There was a dearth of visible debris on the relatively unmarked
[Pentagon] lawn, where I stood only minutes after the impact. Beyond
this strange absence of airliner debris, there was no sign of the kind
of damage to the Pentagon structure one would expect from the impact of
a large airliner. This visible evidence or lack thereof may also have
been apparent to the secretary of defense [Donald Rumsfeld], who in an
unfortunate slip of the tongue referred to the aircraft that slammed
into the Pentagon as a "missile".

... I saw nothing of significance at the point of impact - no airplane
metal or cargo debris was blowing on the lawn in front of the damaged
building as smoke billowed from within the Pentagon. ... all of us
staring at the Pentagon that morning were indeed looking for such
debris, but what we expected to see was not evident.

The same is true with regard to the kind of damage we expected. ... But
I did not see this kind of damage. Rather, the facade had a rather small
hole, no larger than 20 feet in diameter. Although this facade later
collapsed, it remained standing for 30 or 40 minutes, with the roof line
remaining relatively straight.

The scene, in short, was not what I would have expected from a strike by
a large jetliner. It was, however, exactly what one would expect if a
missile had struck the Pentagon.

... More information is certainly needed regarding the events of 9/11
and the events leading up to that terrible day."


Editor's note: For more information on the impact at the Pentagon, see
General Stubblebine, Colonel Nelson, Major Rokke, Capt. Wittenberg, and
Steve DeChiaro.


Bio: http://militaryweek.com/

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Wed 04/18/07 09:07 AM
This government said that there were 4 boeing 757s that did 911, all
flown by kids with boxcutters.

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Col. George Nelson, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former U.S. Air Force
aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority. 34-year Air
Force career.

Essay: "In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never
witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was
accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard
evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific
registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise
cause of the accident. ...

The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the
morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000
human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been
produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft.
On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was
deliberately kept hidden from public view. …

With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any
unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did
not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence
available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a
passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground and certainly
not the Boeing 757 as alleged. …

As painful and heartbreaking as was the loss of innocent lives and the
lingering health problems of thousands more, a most troublesome and
nightmarish probability remains that so many Americans appear to be
involved in the most heinous conspiracy in our country's history."
http://www.physics911.net


Editor's note: For more information on the impact at the Pentagon, see
General Stubblebine, Lt. Col. Kwiatkowski, Major Rokke, Capt.
Wittenberg, and Steve DeChiaro.


Member: Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice Association Statement:
"Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice is a non-partisan organization
consisting of independent researchers and activists engaged in
uncovering the true nature of the September 11, 2001 attacks."


Member: Pilots for 9/11 Truth Association Statement: "Pilots for 9/11
Truth is an organization of aviation professionals and pilots throughout
the globe that have gathered together for one purpose. We are committed
to seeking the truth surrounding the events of the 11th of September
2001. Our main focus concentrates on the four flights, maneuvers
performed and the reported pilots. We do not offer theory or point
blame. However, we are focused on determining the truth of that fateful
day since the United States Government doesn't seem to be very
forthcoming with answers."

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Wed 04/18/07 09:01 AM
I already have with this link.

http://911scholars.org/

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Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Director of Advanced
Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter. U.S. Air
Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. (PhD in Aeronautics
and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech). Former Head of the Department of
Aeronautical Engineering and Assistant Dean at the U.S. Air Force
Institute of Technology. Also taught Mathematics and English at the
University of Southern California, the University of Maryland, and
Phillips University.
Video 9/11/04: "A lot of these pieces of information, taken together,
prove that the official story, the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is
a bunch of hogwash. It’s impossible. … There’s a second group of facts
having to do with the cover up. … Taken together these things prove that
high levels of our government don’t want us to know what happened and
who’s responsible.…

Who gained from 9/11? Who covered up crucial information about 9/11?
And who put out the patently false stories about 9/11 in the first
place? When you take those three things together, I think the case is
pretty clear that it’s highly placed individuals in the administration
with all roads passing through **** Cheney.

I think the very kindest thing that we can say about George W. Bush and
all the people in the U.S. Government that have been involved in this
massive cover-up, the very kindest thing we can say is that they were
aware of impending attacks and let them happen. Now some people will
say that’s much too kind, however even that is high treason and
conspiracy to commit murder." http://video.go


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11:
"We want truthful answers to question. … As Americans of conscience, we
ask for four things:
An immediate investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer
Immediate investigation in Congressional Hearings.
Media attention to scrutinize and investigate the evidence.
The formation of a truly independent citizens-based inquiry."
http://www.911truth.org/article



Member: Pilots for 9/11 Truth Association Statement: "Pilots for 9/11
Truth is an organization of aviation professionals and pilots throughout
the globe that have gathered together for one purpose. We are committed
to seeking the truth surrounding the events of the 11th of September
2001. Our main focus concentrates on the four flights, maneuvers
performed and the reported pilots. We do not offer theory or point
blame. However, we are focused on determining the truth of that fateful
day since the United States Government doesn't seem to be very
forthcoming with answers."


Website: http://www.thepatriots.us

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Wed 04/18/07 08:56 AM
but the engines and landing gear are not hollow, where are they????

the government said that the plane incenerated but they also said they
got DNA from the passengers.

Where are the pictures of the engines?

show me the picture of the 757s engine and ill stop this.

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Col. Ronald D. Ray, U.S. Marine Corps (ret) – Deputy Assistant Secretary
of Defense during the Reagan Administration and a highly decorated
Vietnam veteran (two Silver Stars, a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart).
Appointed by President George H.W. Bush to serve on the American Battle
Monuments Commission (1990 - 1994), and on the 1992 Presidential
Commission on the Assignment of Women in the Armed Forces. Military
Historian and Deputy Director of Field Operations for the U.S. Marine
Corps Historical Center, Washington, D.C. 1990 - 1994.

Article 7/10/06: "The former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense under
the Reagan Administration and a highly decorated Vietnam veteran and
Colonel has gone on the record to voice his doubts about the official
story of 9/11 - calling it ‘the dog that doesn't hunt.’ ‘I'm astounded
that the conspiracy theory advanced by the administration could in fact
be true and the evidence does not seem to suggest that's accurate,’ he
said." http://www.knowledgedriven


Bio: http://www.firstprinciplespress.org


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Wed 04/18/07 08:44 AM
Like I said you can be the next millionaire, but I want a finders fee.

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Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Commanding
General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 - 1984.
Also commanded the U.S. Army’s Electronic Research and Development
Command and the U.S. Army’s Intelligence School and Center. Former head
of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence.
32-year Army career.

Video 7/11/06: "One of my experiences in the Army was being in charge of
the Army’s Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical
Intelligence during the Cold War. I measured pieces of Soviet equipment
from photographs. It was my job. I look at the hole in the Pentagon and
I look at the size of an airplane that was supposed to have hit the
Pentagon. And I said, ‘The plane does not fit in that hole’. So what did
hit the Pentagon? What hit it? Where is it? What's going on?"
http://www.und


Editor's note: For more information on the impact at the Pentagon, see
Colonel Nelson, Lt. Col. Kwiatkowski, Major Rokke, Capt. Wittenberg, and
Steve DeChiaro.


Bio: http://www.canadiansub.com/Board

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Wed 04/18/07 08:38 AM
These pilots were war vets....please

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General Wesley Clark, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Commanding General of
U.S. European Command, which included all American military activities
in the 89 countries and territories of Europe, Africa, and the Middle
East. Additionally, Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR), which
granted him overall command of NATO military forces in Europe 1997 -
2001. Awarded Bronze Star, Silver Star, and Purple Heart for his
service in Viet Nam and numerous subsequent medals and citations.
Graduated valedictorian of his class at West Point.

Video interview ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos 3/5/06: "I
think when you look at this country, right now, we need a 2-party system
that works. We need Congress to do its job. We need real investigation
of some of the abuses of authority that are apparently going on at the
Executive branch. ... We've never finished the investigation of 9/11 and
whether the administration actually misused the intelligence information
it had. The evidence seems pretty clear to me. I've seen that for a
long time." http://securingamerica.com/node/692


Bio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Clark

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Wed 04/18/07 08:28 AM
You know, or maybe you dont that a 911 truther named Jimmy Walter has
put up a million dollars for anyone that can explain and prove the
governments story of the twin buildings (pancake theory) he did this 4
years ago and nobody is able to prove that it happened that way, not
even structrual engineers.

So go for it, and be the next millionaire.

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Philip J. Berg, Esquire – Former Deputy Attorney General, State of
Pennsylvania.

Article 10/29/04: "The official story of what actually took place on
9-11 is a lie." http://www.americanfreepress.net


Statement 1/4/07: "Berg continued there is overwhelming evidence that:
"Bush and his cronies made 9/11 happen or let it happen. And, if they
let it happen, then they made it happen. Either way, they are
responsible; and more important, they have completely and unequivocally
covered-it-up!" MS Word doc at
http://www.911forthetruth.com/pdfs/PR_01042007.doc


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11:
"We want truthful answers to question. … As Americans of conscience, we
ask for four things:
An immediate investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer
Immediate investigation in Congressional Hearings.
Media attention to scrutinize and investigate the evidence.
The formation of a truly independent citizens-based inquiry."
http://www.911truth.org/article.php



Member: Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice Association Statement:
"Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice is a non-partisan organization
consisting of independent researchers and activists engaged in
uncovering the true nature of the September 11, 2001 attacks."


Bio: http://www.911forthetruth.com

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Wed 04/18/07 08:21 AM
you never responded to these guys

http://911scholars.org/


and whats amazine is you 2 or 3 guys still believe that 19 kids (9 are
still alive) with box-cutters completly destroyed our trillion dollar
defense system, if that is the case we all need to run and hide because
our borders are open and these box-cutter dudes could borrow some row
boats.


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more


Robin Hordon – Former FAA Air Traffic Controller at the Boston Air Route
Traffic Control Center, located in Nashua, NH, 1970 - 1981. Former
Certified Commercial Pilot. Former Certified Flight Instructor and
Certified Ground Instructor. After leaving the FAA, he had a 12-year
career in the field of comedy ending up as artistic coordinator for
"Catch A Rising Star" in Harvard Square in Cambridge, MA.
Statement to this website 4/10/07: "I knew within hours of the attacks
on 9/11/2001 that it was an inside job. Based on my 11-year experience
as an FAA Air Traffic Controller in the busy Northeast corridor,
including hundreds of hours of training, briefings, air refuelings, low
altitude bombing drills, being part of huge military exercises, daily
military training exercises, interacting on a routine basis directly
with NORAD radar personnel, and based on my own direct experience
dealing with in-flight emergency situations, including two instances of
hijacked commercial airliners, I state unequivocally; There is
absolutely no way that four large commercial airliners could have flown
around off course for 30 to 60 minutes on 9/11 without being intercepted
and shot completely out of the sky by our jet fighters unless very
highly placed people in our government and our military wanted it to
happen.

It is important for people to understand that scrambling jet fighters to
intercept aircraft showing the signs of experiencing “IN-FLIGHT
EMERGENCIES” such as going off course without authorization, losing a
transponder signal and/or losing radio contact is a common and routine
task executed jointly between the FAA and NORAD controllers. The entire
“national defense-first responder” intercept system has many
highly-trained civilian and military personnel who are committed and
well-trained to this task. FAA and NORAD continuously monitor our skies
and fighter planes and pilots are on the ready 24/7 to handle these
situations. Jet fighters typically intercept any suspect plane over the
United States within 10 - 15 minutes of notification of a problem.

This type of "immediate, high speed, high priority and emergency"
scramble had been happening regularly approximately 75 - 150 times per
year for ten years. ...

I believe that 9/11 was what is known as a "False Flag Operation" in
which a country inflicts casualties upon itself, and then blames it on
an enemy that they want to go to war against. It is one more instance
in the United States’ long history of using "False Flag Operations" and
blatant propaganda to ramp-up hostile emotions towards an enemy in a
population otherwise resistant to going to war." Link to full statement
and expanded bio


Article 3/12/07: "When it became clear that there hadn't been a systems
failure of any kind on the morning of September 11th, Hordon was certain
that something had gone terribly wrong within the upper echelons of
authority. A pilot (third level air carrier) as well as an ATC, he is
well versed on in-flight emergency protocol. He is also adamant that if
these procedures had been followed on 9/11 not one of the hijacked
planes would have reached their targets.

"I'm sorry but American 11 should have been intercepted over southwest
Connecticut—bang, done deal." ...

The unfathomable delays seen in military action on 9/11 are
inconceivable to those who have painstakingly investigated the matter --
and for a man who worked for years keeping air travel over the U.S.
safe. ...

"I think we all have to agree that, one way or another, the U.S.
military was involved in the attacks. The advantage that Rumsfeld had
is that he can classify, reshape, make available, make unavailable any
information that he wants, at any time and deny that information to the
public for any reason, especially national security."
http://www.prisonplanet.com



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Wed 04/18/07 01:46 AM
why is it that everyone here that goes with this government does not
read this thread, its amazine.

I will just continue to post their professional opinons and you
blue-collar guys just keep replying with weak responses....

Its weird you love this government but you cant back their story up and
when insiders do you just ignore it.....LOL LOL

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no I said there are at least 600+ unanswered questions about this
governments story about 911, and ther are over 400+ insiders that say
this government is lying just like this one;


Daniel Ellsberg, PhD – Former Special Assistant to the Assistant
Secretary of Defense. Former State Department envoy to Viet Nam. While
working for the government, Ellsberg attained the ultimate civil service
grade of GS-18, equivalent to a Major General. Former U.S. Marine Corps
officer. Former military analyst for the Rand Corporation. Most well
known for leaking the Pentagon Papers to the New York Times in 1971.

Interview 7/14/06: Regarding 9/11 "There is no question in my mind, that
there is enough evidence to justify a very comprehensive and hard
hitting investigation of the kind we have not seen. With subpoenas,
general questioning of people, releasing a lot of documents. There’s no
question that very serious questions have been raised about how much
they knew before hand and how much involvement there may have been."
http://www.infowars


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11:
"We want truthful answers to question. … As Americans of conscience, we
ask for four things:
An immediate investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer
Immediate investigation in Congressional Hearings.
Media attention to scrutinize and investigate the evidence.
The formation of a truly independent citizens-based inquiry."
http://www.911truth.org/article



Bio: http://www.ellsberg.net/content/view/14/27/

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Wed 04/18/07 01:27 AM
and yet the Pentagon does not show any 757 hitting it either so why dont
you ask them to provide us those vidieos.... LOLlaugh

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Wed 04/18/07 01:15 AM
as too the first part of the last post about CT I left out that Im not
sure whats up, but I do know that I dont buy this governments story
about 911.

and either do these 400+ insiders.

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Fred Burks – Former State Department Interpreter for Presidents George
W. Bush and Bill Clinton, Vice Presidents **** Cheney and Al Gore,
Secretaries of State Colin Powell and Madeleine Albright. 18-year State
Department career.

Essay: "How is it possible that our military's highly touted missile
detections systems could not locate Flight 77 in the 42 minutes it was
known to be lost before it crashed into the heart of the defense system
of the U.S.? …

An even bigger question is why isn't our media asking these questions?
Why isn't our military spending many millions of dollars to find out why
military defense systems failed on 9/11? Why is it that the 9/11
commission budget was far less than the budget allotted to the
Challenger Disaster or even the Monika Lewinsky affair?"
http://www.wanttoknow.info/911star


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11:
"We want truthful answers to question. … As Americans of conscience, we
ask for four things:
An immediate investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer
Immediate investigation in Congressional Hearings.
Media attention to scrutinize and investigate the evidence.
The formation of a truly independent citizens-based inquiry."
http://www.911truth.org/article

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