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Topic:
Recovery from religion...
Edited by
msharmony
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Fri 03/23/12 12:35 AM
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I dont know,, those who seem to oppose religion the most consistently (at least on mingle)seem to be much unhappier and emptier than those who dont,,,although they protest more often about how much happier they supposedly are,,,
just an observation though,,, if something is making someone sick, whether its belief in government, belief of being in constant danger,,,etc,, anything that is bringing imbalance and emotional 'sickness' can stand to be looked at closer,,, |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 03/22/12 07:33 PM
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that is terribly unfair to the woman, I Agree I guess that's the difference between us. You find it terribly unfair. I find it to be an outrage. I was speaking it is unfair to require four witnesses to a crime before it is prosecuted |
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actually, in some places there are and in others there arent in those places who have punishment, though, the punishment is light The punishment is non-existent or light because it is culturally accepted and expected. Harsher penalties will not help much when the society promotes this. harsher penalties would reflect less 'acceptance' or 'expectation' noone can change peoples minds if they are not open to it, we can only deter their behavior True. If these governments actually passed harsher laws AND the local law enforcement investigated and prosecuted the offenders it would help. In some of the areas, the law requires 4 adult male witnesses to testify to the rape in order to convict. You can imagine how frequently that happens. that is terribly unfair to the woman, I Agree |
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actually, in some places there are and in others there arent in those places who have punishment, though, the punishment is light The punishment is non-existent or light because it is culturally accepted and expected. Harsher penalties will not help much when the society promotes this. harsher penalties would reflect less 'acceptance' or 'expectation' noone can change peoples minds if they are not open to it, we can only deter their behavior |
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excuse me, I Was discussing something I thought was relevant to 'honor' killing under the umbrella of unjustified killing sticking STRICTLY to killings in the name of honor though, I feel killers should have punishments themself and stricter punishment is needed for honor killers to try to deter the potential for others to follow suit,,, Well, that's the problem. There is no punishment for honor killing. actually, in some places there are and in others there arent in those places who have punishment, though, the punishment is light |
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excuse me, I Was discussing something I thought was relevant to 'honor' killing under the umbrella of unjustified killing
sticking STRICTLY to killings in the name of honor though, I feel killers should have punishments themself and stricter punishment is needed for honor killers to try to deter the potential for others to follow suit,,, |
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why assume I was limiting my statement to America? thsts interesting Im equating taking life with taking life,, does it matter where the life is taken? why cant I lay flowers around ALL those losing life senselessly,,,? Stick to the topic please. This is about women being murdered for "honor", not whatever imaginary crusade you want to talk about. so the topic has to be specifically about 'honor' killings and any other type of human killing is not relevant? thanx for clearing that up |
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someone should have tased or pepper sprayed her. I would also like to know why the black cop you see towards the end of video when she is fighting with that other professor didn't tackle her and put her in cuffs. the video I had did not have an officer in it,just school staff |
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Topic:
Another School Shooting
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I hope I never have anyone like you in my life, Id worry a lot. lol, you seem to worry alot anyway I really do not think you have a clue. no, if someone got out their car , followed me, then APPROACHED me, with a gun in belt, asking what I was doing there I would take it as a potential threat kind of like 'what are you looking at' in certain contexts, the type of question that is inviting confrontation.... |
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I do wish people would cherish human life over personal lusts, opinions, etc,,, I suspect its getting worse before it gets better,,,as our culture of fear expands,,, Say what? EDIT: This thread is about women being murdered for honor in Pakistan, please don't try to make this about anything else. excuse me, I thought women being murdered (for whatever reason) was directly related to valuing human life excuse my mistake,,,, Your mistake was thinking that you should smear America as a "culture of fear" and equate anything that happens here with the murders of the innocent women. Instead of standing on their graves to attack other people, just lay sound flowers around it and move on. why assume I was limiting my statement to America? thsts interesting Im equating taking life with taking life,, does it matter where the life is taken? why cant I lay flowers around ALL those losing life senselessly,,,? |
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Topic:
Another School Shooting
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I hope I never have anyone like you in my life, Id worry a lot. lol, you seem to worry alot anyway |
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I totally understand the logic that the spirit is more important than the flesh
and I understand the desire of some to save the spirit by killing the flesh but I dont agree with it, |
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I do wish people would cherish human life over personal lusts, opinions, etc,,, I suspect its getting worse before it gets better,,,as our culture of fear expands,,, Say what? EDIT: This thread is about women being murdered for honor in Pakistan, please don't try to make this about anything else. excuse me, I thought women being murdered (for whatever reason) was directly related to valuing human life excuse my mistake,,,, |
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Topic:
Another School Shooting
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and I doubt, judging by your previous experience and opinions, that you would just be 'polite' to someone who had followed you with a gun and then faced off with you to ask you why you were there,,,,, ARE YOU KIDDING ME. Of course I would, they may be an undercover police officer.
you do know a police officer must identify themself? no reason an 'undercover' would need to question someone because that someone has no way of knowing they are a cop with a gun as opposed to someone about to try and rob them,,,, Your knowledge is lacking. He can observe, like anyone else indefinitely without identifying himself. msharmony, take some time, think these posts through, do some research learn something. no. a police officer can ASK me whatever they want, but unless they have identified themself as a police officer, I have no OBLIGATION to answer them so in the situation of an 'undercover' asking me why I was there, especially if I happened to see they had a weapon, staying calm is an option, but fight or flight is also a high probability after all, if some crook were going to rob me or rape me or assault me, and wanted to intimidate me first by asking 'what are you doing here?' ......what is the chance that just answering him would decrease my risks? what does anyone need that information for? what are they going to do with it when I answer them? would it be anyones business, especially some unknown person with a gun in their belt? |
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I do wish people would cherish human life over personal lusts, opinions, etc,,,
I suspect its getting worse before it gets better,,,as our culture of fear expands,,, |
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Topic:
Another School Shooting
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and I doubt, judging by your previous experience and opinions, that you would just be 'polite' to someone who had followed you with a gun and then faced off with you to ask you why you were there,,,,, ARE YOU KIDDING ME. Of course I would, they may be an undercover police officer.
you do know a police officer must identify themself? no reason an 'undercover' would need to question someone because that someone has no way of knowing they are a cop with a gun as opposed to someone about to try and rob them,,,, |
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trained by whom? "The alleged action of a 'self-appointed neighborhood watchman' last month in Sanford, FL significantly contradicts the principles of the Neighborhood Watch Program," NSA Executive Director Aaron D. Kennard, Sheriff (ret.) said in the press statement. "NSA has no information indicating the community where the incident occurred has ever even registered with the NSA Neighborhood Watch program." The USAonWatch-Neighborhood Watch Program manual advises volunteers about how to notice basic things about persons deemed to be suspicious such as height, weight, style of dress, and hair color. Local law enforcement agents also work with official groups to tailor specifications concerning how to discern potential criminal activity depending on the particular communities they are in. In this way, Neighborhood Watch has assured theGrio that the potential for racial profiling is curtailed. In Zimmerman's case, he would have recognized that Trayvon Martin was a non-suspicious part of the citizenry had he received proper training. The complex where he was killed is middle class and mixed race. But registration with the USAonWatch-Neighborhood Watch Program -- which would have provided this training -- is not a requirement for forming a group http://www.thegrio.com/specials/trayvon-martin/zimmerman-not-a-member-of-recognized-neighborhood-watch-organization.php The Neighborhood watch where I live is handled by the JSO, NOT the natioanl program. More media not checking anything beyond whatever they want to believe. I can understand that. So where is the link to Sanford police saying they trained Zimmerman for neighborhood watch? lol kind of thought so,, me too,,,, |
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trained by whom? "The alleged action of a 'self-appointed neighborhood watchman' last month in Sanford, FL significantly contradicts the principles of the Neighborhood Watch Program," NSA Executive Director Aaron D. Kennard, Sheriff (ret.) said in the press statement. "NSA has no information indicating the community where the incident occurred has ever even registered with the NSA Neighborhood Watch program." The USAonWatch-Neighborhood Watch Program manual advises volunteers about how to notice basic things about persons deemed to be suspicious such as height, weight, style of dress, and hair color. Local law enforcement agents also work with official groups to tailor specifications concerning how to discern potential criminal activity depending on the particular communities they are in. In this way, Neighborhood Watch has assured theGrio that the potential for racial profiling is curtailed. In Zimmerman's case, he would have recognized that Trayvon Martin was a non-suspicious part of the citizenry had he received proper training. The complex where he was killed is middle class and mixed race. But registration with the USAonWatch-Neighborhood Watch Program -- which would have provided this training -- is not a requirement for forming a group http://www.thegrio.com/specials/trayvon-martin/zimmerman-not-a-member-of-recognized-neighborhood-watch-organization.php The Neighborhood watch where I live is handled by the JSO, NOT the natioanl program. More media not checking anything beyond whatever they want to believe. I can understand that. So where is the link to Sanford police saying they trained Zimmerman for neighborhood watch? |
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Topic:
Another School Shooting
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I agree, people should help each other. I wonder if he offered to 'help' that boy or just assumed he should treat him with criminal suspicion? the boy was part of the 'community' a new part, but a part just the same I dont know him personally either, but Im glad they at least are going to INVESTIGATE instead of just wrapping it up as 'self defense' msharmony you and myself both have no clue what took place after the initial questions. Your indignation is not founded in facts. I do not know Zimmermans real motivations any more than I know Martins, or your own. ME? If I was confronted with ANYONE asking me why I was in the neighborhood, id be polite, engaging, and helpful, if the person became confrontational, id start my voice recorder and start backing away to create distance. I would run or fight, if I was already suspicious, nervous, or fearful after seeing them leave their car and FOLLOW me,,,,,or if I happened to notice a gun in their belt,,,, AFTER they had followed me and confronted me verbally, , and I doubt, judging by your previous experience and opinions, that you would just be 'polite' to someone who had followed you with a gun and then faced off with you to ask you why you were there,,,,, |
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and the man on retreevil lane(zimmerman)
That is jumping to conclusions. I heard the call and never heard coon, never heard anything like what many claim.
-based upon audio My opinion, most of this is hysteria. I said nothing about the word 'coon' I am jumping to a conclusion about zimmerman through opinion and observation just like I jumped to a conclusion about the girl at FAU on the tape, zimmerman is assuming something is 'wrong' with the boy and that he is an '*******' , and might 'get away' something is wrong there for his mind to jump to THAT conclusion.... |
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